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Belly I'm simply against hypocrisy. Cry more. Gay people are discriminated against right here in Australia. In this country they are actively denied rights to marriage. Your opinion actually counts here. A women's magazine in Iran being cut is pretty much their decision and that's essentially my point. You'd be better served fixing discrimination in your own country rather than shouting into the void where your opinions will be easily discarded as those of foreigners who have no business in Iran. It's realistic, practical viewpoint that avoids hypocrisy. Let those who are without sin cast the first stone, remember? Another example in Australia is that women are forced to wear clothes on the upper half of their body, whereas men are free to remain shirtless. I'm not saying you can't criticise Iran, but don't assume that your opinion is worth anything to them. Your opinion is worth something here in Australia and with it you can fix discrimination and censorship here and then lead by example.

I also mentioned in the other thread that the USA installed a dictatorship where once there was a democracy in Iran. Do you even comprehend what that means? How can you hold up the west as a shining example of moral virtue, when those very nations took away Iranian democracy and deprived them of freedom? That is not biased. It's a fact. It's also a fact, that Australia discriminates and censors media itself. And it's a fact that your opinion is worth a lot more if you were to direct it at these domestic Australian abuses, since you are a citizen of Australia and not Iran.
Posted by Steel, Saturday, 16 February 2008 4:41:25 PM
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Come steel, surely you jest? I can hardly be said to hold the west up as a shining light.
My thoughts in threads such as Burma is the UN asleep? question the intent of the west too why the mess in Africa? why intervene in Kosivo so late but not in Africa?
Another says the left does not like Obama?
I think he is the hope of the world.
I am left of center but not true left center unity that is Labors right.
But I do think humans must have the right to say what they think, in Iraq monthly almost I get involved in union campaigns to free workers , I always will.
Steel all humans are equal in my view one day we will be free to truly say that, not you and I, not in our life time but if not humans are not as great as I think they are.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 February 2008 6:06:59 PM
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I am surprised that even the media here (like in the US) doesn't mention the Dr.Ron Paul. Media does have ties huh?
Go Ron Paul!!
Posted by eftfnc, Monday, 18 February 2008 12:31:07 PM
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America has not indulged in torture, as a matter of policy. Those who say we do, the leftists, are nut cases. Consider, the arabs and moslems
gouge out eyes, chop off limbs and heads, burn people alive, fillet them alive, etc. etc. etc. What is America accused of, water boarding ? sleep deprivation, making people get naked or other such nonsense. Is that the leftist view of equivalence ? Unfortunately, that is the comparison and the leftist case. Sick.

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Posted by DeeprkOpps, Monday, 18 February 2008 1:56:51 PM
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Deep Chops, you have just demonstrated the very best definition of TRULY SICK.

That is the American Neo-Con who has placed this entire globe into paranoia/intolerance and the end result of this; a very real fear of attack.

You people are not fit to judge others. You are an absolute disgrace.
Posted by Ginx, Monday, 18 February 2008 2:34:48 PM
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"America has not indulged in torture, as a matter of policy."

That's flat out wrong. You should do a bit more reading.
Posted by Steel, Monday, 18 February 2008 6:23:47 PM
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