Bronco Lane
you seem good, come to Adelaide and I will vote you! Always I voted ALP for the parliament and always I have wanted to cut my hand because I voted you. I think you(ALP) are conservative.
You are right when you said America and Australia are moving left but I do not think they could move more right! The problem with socialist, social democratic and labor parties is that they lost their direction, their credibility, their willing to fight for a better world. I do not think that the ALP won the last elections with its program, it is the Liberals who lost with their mistakes on main issues, as Environment, war in Iraq, workchoice, migrants, women, etc. Australia lack of democracy, if you do not give more power to people, if you do not extend and deepen the democracy, if you do not activate the people, soon, very soon, Australia will become similar with America.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

America has not yet changed its leadership, in truth Obama will win against Clinton, but is not yet over the line.
May I question how you two can even consider America and Australia are going left?
The chances of this are zero, we did not elect the Social alliance in this country.
We elected a conservative ALP government.
Do not paint them red or any color, they while talking the talk have no plans to return union rights of entry.
No intent to let union arbitrate .
No way can you dream of a left learning ALP and America?
Well the Day they are of the left I will look for a way of waking myself up, for sure it will be a dream.

At the time I started this thread I thought as I posted ,however in my mind a split hair existed between Obama and Clinton.
Both if elected would make me happy, both had no easy task even given the American economy and Iraq to win the big one.
In just the life of this thread much has changed.
If Hilary won now, she will not, it would divide the Democrats and see the Republicans win the presidency.
Obama will win he will be the candidate, but by the time this race is over unless it ends very soon the Clinton name will be further damaged.
Hilary is looking strident in her speech's Bill is looking so too, and only a miss direction of super delegates can put them in front.
I am concerned at the anti Obama Medea.
Not unexpected but very real, just maybe a chance exists it may have an impact.
While my view is Obama is bound for the white house nothing can be taken for granted in America.

Belly,
you did not tell me that you are this kind of person!
I wrote that always I voted ALP for the parliament and always I have wanted to cut my hand because I voted you. I think you(ALP) are conservative. But I did not write that always I voted Greens for Senate.
About the America and Australia, I wrote they could not go more right because they was at extreme right.
Belly When we say they are moving left we have 100% right, except if you thing Liberals and ALP are exactly same. NO! Already we signed the Kyoto Protocol, the apology to Aborigines, we are going to demolish the WorkChoice I hope soon to be here our soldiers from Iraq. We speak for some steps to the right direction, some steps which could do only come from a government which stand on the left of the Liberals.
About USA, If we have Obama president, only from his color we will have a president on the left of the white presidents. Do you remember what said few years before, the old racist killer from Missouri in the court? He said that he did not know that was illegal to kill a black man! Obama was against the war in Iraq, he has for long time connections with Unions and poor people, I am sure he will be the most progressive American President ever was.
I am happy that you are not very conservative. You know I want to fight for Migrants rights, I did not started yet simple I test the environment but be sure I will give the battle sooner or later. I need your support.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid

Dear Antonios Symeonakis of
Adelaide Graham Young has created a fantastic website here. This has enabled those that are aware and conscious to be able to rub shoulders with each other and to bounce ideas off each other. Tony Benn admirers knew that Tony Blair would be a disaster he was a Gaiteskeillite but the only means of ridding Britain of Thatcherism. We see the same of Kevin O7 who takes up the middle ground ex Australian Democrats together with the New south Wales Catholic Right. Obam will be the working class saviour to bring about the much awaited American National Health Service which Hillary Clinton promised but was bought off by the Private Health Companies as Howard was here in Australia. Obama will create a better world if he is well protected he will bring in gun control. We now see all the many Hollywood actors that are supporting him and Oprah has brought in the womens vote behind him to the detriment of Hillary. Hillary would make a great Deputy but Obama may give the job to Edwards for standing aside and supporting him. Obama has so much charisma and can think on his feet he has done everything right and that is left thinking. Bush has done everything wrong during his term in office.

While we have had a few kinks in the hose the subject has great interest for me.
In just one week Thursday morning in fact we will know the answer to this thread.
Who among us would have thought this campaign would get so very dirty?
Daily almost hourly I can not believe the things Hilary is saying, her team doing, just not the person I once had hope for.
We know, those of us who would be Democrats if we lived in America a win now is not the keys to the white house.
A;long two man race is about to Begin, do not forget it would be historic if Obama wins
I will continue to watch with interest, high hopes and an understanding not to count my chickens yet.