Yabby, "I think it is hard to deny, that Hillary got to where she is,
due to being married to Bill"

Strangly enough I recall that when Bill was president there was a strong view around that Bill got to where he was due to being married to Hillary. I've found a link to a joke that was popular at the time http://www.unwind.com/jokes-funnies/politicaljokes/gasstation.shtml

I'm undecided if she can win. Personally I have not seen anything to convince me that she is someone who has ethics as a central part of her life. Her passion seems to be power.

I don't know much about Obama either but much of what is being said about him by others is interesting.

Either way much like the apology today there may be value for America in passing one of the milestones of race and gender. Sometimes just the fact that something has been done brings release to others.

R0bert

RObert has it right once Hilary was given as the reason Bill had every thing .
Yabby too is right it could happen weird stuff happens in America.
Col Rouge class?
Well I do not think of it like that, but once I did, do not feel my years but I was born in the southern highlands of NSW
Mittagong Bowral Moss vale 62 years ago.
The rich have homes there still, my grand parents worked as House maids and yard workers.
Sorry we did have classes then and for most of my childhood, hats over the hearts when talking to the boss who spoke like an Englishman and while 3rd generation Aussie called England home.
We do not have much of that now and are better for it.
Hilary is not going to be the candidate.
Obama looks bound for the white house a better America?
I hope so.

I gather that the super delegates carry about 20% of the votes,
so they could still change the final outcome, but the impression
I get is that things are swinging more and more behind Obama.

Its seems that the Repulicans would prefer Hillary as their
opposition, as they reckon that alot of Republicans hate her,
so would bother to turn up on voting day, to make sure that
she doesen't get in.

Methinks that Obama has been planning all this for a long time.
He's been pretty careful about voting in the Senate, as he's
aware that whatever a politician decides, he will upset somebody,
so best to say as little of substance as possible. That's
basic politics 101.

Yup, I think he can win the final race. He sounds inspirational,
so can push emotional buttons, whilst Hillary sounds more like
a fishwife when she raises her voice :)

Meantime McCain is just too old and past it. Best he go and
tend the roses or something and accept it.

I think that is the way it will turn out yabby, but Ohio and Texas will go to Clinton.
If it is close or if she lost one , unlikely, it would see her leave the race.
Of interest now is her legal challenges one in Florida if she won them? internal warfare.
The longer this goes the more damage to her side of politics.
Do not however write McCain of because of his age, yes he needs a young strong deputy to jump in his chair if nature calls.
But he is not as unpopular as some think, and will bring anti Obama or Clinton votes to him.

I prefer Obama for USA president but I am not sure if the racists will leave him to live for long time. Obama's supporters are the blacks, young people, Unionists and middle class educated people. He does not have big support from the party's bureaucracy which control 20% of the total votes. The chairman from the Central committee of the Democratic Party, Dean Howard, is enough left according to the USA standards and I hope he will sent some votes from the party's bureaucracy to Obama.
Hillary Clinton is experienced and preparing for long time for USA president, she has strong support from her husband, former USA president and very popular even today. She has strong support from party bureaucracy, from poor noon unionists, women and Latinos, the biggest minority in USA, but she lost her credibility as she supported the war in Iraq and of cause her strong ties with the political establishment in Washington. It is estimated she will grab the majority of the party's bureaucracy, which control 20% of the total votes. Clinton promised to stop the cowboy foreign policy but I can not trust her very much. I think she will work for better health system.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid

No Hillary Clinton cannot win she has not got the same charisma as Bill Clinton and her politics are more right wing than John McCain. Obama will beat McCain in a landslide. Britain France Germany and Italy have moved to the right and Australia and America are moving to the left.