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Can Clinton win the election?

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Hillary is closer to the Republicans than she is to Obama.
She vows that she will never seek a dialogue with Hugo Chavez, She regards the Cuba leadership as an enemy to her country. She voted for the Iraq war and supports Bush with the surge until victory is achieved. She promised to bring in a truly National Health Service then got bought out to scrap the idea. Let us hope that it will be the first black president and not the eldest president or female president.
Posted by Bronco Lane, Saturday, 9 February 2008 7:19:54 PM
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*That's why I'm hoping that an intelligent woman will make it as President. *

Foxy, I remind you that Hillary voted for the war, Obama
was against it, so there is clearly more to it then
sexual organs.

Obama is what America needs, but then perhaps American
voters arn't smart enough to understand or see that,
given that they thought that George and Dick were
wonderful, last time around. Slowly they might
be learning, with a bit of pain...

Hillary and Bill can then act as advisors etc, or VP,
or whatever you want to call it.

Fact is America needs to change course, with new
ideas and a whole new leadership. Otherwise the place
will just keep going down the gurler, a bit more every
day, as at present.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 9 February 2008 7:21:30 PM
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Dear Yabby,

All people make mistakes - even politicians. However I'm still leaning towards Hillary Clinton - I suppose because I know more about her. We lived and worked in the States for nine and a half years.

Hilary Rodham Clinton - to me is a formidable figure in American politics. She charted her own course through unexplored terrain - responding to the challenging times and her own internal compass - and became an emblem for some and a lightning rod for others.

Wife, mother, lawyer, advocate, senator, and international icon, she has lived through America's great political wars, from Watergate to Whitewater.

And I do believe that she'll take America towards a totally new direction. With her, "It's always about the future."
About what must be done to make America smarter, healthier, richer, stronger, and better - above all - better, and how Americans can prepare to compete and cooperate in a global economy.

As a New Yorker exclaimed on TV, "She cares!"
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 9 February 2008 8:33:03 PM
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Dear Foxy,

I think it is hard to deny, that Hillary got to where she is,
due to being married to Bill. Obama got to where he is,
through his own efforts, despite his background.

The difference between the two became clear, when there
was a debate about Iran. Obama's view as that if there
was a problem, it was best to sit down and discuss it.
Hillary crapped on about the prestige of the US
presidency. What prestige?

That is exactly why I support Obama, his thinking
is well ahead of Hillary, who still represents the
old school of politics and is unable to think outside
the square, as Obama is.

What your comment showed is a hint of sexism, ie as
a girl, you would like to see a girl win. I'm
making my judgement purely on ability. If Hillary
had Obama's talent, I would support her, but she
clearly does not.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 9 February 2008 8:52:21 PM
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I refer to the American administration, not America. America , like most societies, is complex and populated by the good, the bad and the ugly, as well as Clint Eastwood. If one looks at the American administration, there is a consistent pattern of behaviour; some Presidents , like Clinton and Kennedy, managed to arrange good PR whilst bombing people. Others, like Bush2 don't bother with PR. But the fact remains that successive American administrations have continued to systematically undermine governments that haven't paid their tribute and to bomb them, or send in terrorists (as per Nicaragua) if they should wish to run their affairs in a manner that doesn't suit the US administration. It goes back to the 1800s. Who is president hasn't mattered much in the past, and it won't matter much in the future. Most empires throughout history have behaved in the same manner. Which Emperor will run Rome? Which King or Queen of England will come to the throne next? Which apparatchik will run Russia or China? Sorry to be a pessimist.
Posted by HenryVIII, Saturday, 9 February 2008 10:39:51 PM
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A thread America a debate exists Henry as you post does not address the intent of this one can you and I talk there?
America, and for that matter Australia is unlikely to care about Cuba or Hugo what ever.
Thee candidates remain with a chance , we must look at the Republican leadership to understand a far different man than Bush stands there.
He will take Democrat votes, no matter who leads them, it is human nature.
Obama, my firm prediction to be the candidate is black, America is America.
Clinton can not gain from white water or a great deal of Bills history, in my view he was a great leader but.
A long race far from over momentum is with Obama at present let us see, my prediction remains ,he will be the candidate but is not yet assured of victory in the big one.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 10 February 2008 5:55:48 AM
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