Forgot to say huffnuff, this is a forum on the web, not the real world, if you are putting any faith in real support coming from people here forget it. Many live in this virtual jungle because sadly, thats all they can do. If you want my help, that's not problem, its what i do.

Come Rainier settle drag it in the dirt if you like say what you want but I have already acted.
Sent 27 letters via snail mail one to a former unionist who was on that committee.
He unfortunately last time I heard had cancer, do not under value others efforts.
I remember am blood uncle to kids from your community and have written thousands of letters such as those above.
IF ONLY MORE WOULD.
Yes most do not few only of us are true activists Foxy is such a person so it seems are you.
Can you not see the dreadful wrongs of most stolen generation story's is shown to continue here in the forgotten Australians story.
That the children of the stolen generation suffered as forgotten Australians too?
EVERY WEEK, we see this country even now has not learned to look after its children.
Saying sorry is only a start we must force our government to ban white wash and sack ministers and public servants freely for failing.

RAINER ,THIS IS THE REAL WORLD AND ITS LIVE ON THE NET OR ELSE THIS FORUM WOULD NOT BE HERE

P.S MAMMA SHIRL WOULD BE DISSAPOINTED WITH SOME OF YOUR POST IF SHE WERE STILL ALIVE ,

SEE RAINER I KNOW MORE THAN YOU THINK OR COULD IMAGINE ,

TO ALL OTHERS OUT THEIR I SENT EMAILS TO ALL SENATORS CAN ONLY HOPE IT WILL DO SOME GOOD FOR THE FORGOTTENM AUSTRALIANS ,

ANYWAY IM GOING TO HAVE A REST FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS BUT I WILL BE LOOKING IN ON THE POST BUT WON;T BE PUTTING ANY COMMENTS IN UNTIL TUESDAY ,HOPEFULLY THEN WE WILL KNOW WHAT WILL BE IN THE STOLEN GENERATIONS APOLOGY ,

ALSO MY EMAIL ADRESS IS michealjbrown@hotmail.com

if anyone wants to contact me personally ,and if your email contians abuse it will be rejected just letting those who despies the forgotten australians . take care all regards micheal .

DIDN;T MEAN TO YELL BUT IT WAS NEEDED FOR RAINERS ATTENTION

Citing Mum Shirl Smith is hardly evidence of your knowledge Puffy. She was a well known activist and I hardly think you can claim to know what she would have thought of my comments. And it’s highly disrespectful to even to imply what she may have though just to support your own arguments. But I can understand why you don’t understand this as you are very culturally different to either my Mum Shirl or me.

And you didn’t address any on the points I made about history and SG but perhaps you are unable to for other reasons I won’t go into here.

Belly, yes I can see your perspective. It’s just that over the last 11 years of conservative rule we witnessed the use and abuse of the SG history for purely ideological political reasons. Howard and many others stood on the backs of Aboriginal people who had already suffered enough and proclaimed that they were liars. They are not! Let us bury our dead, care for our grieving, find ways to heal. This simple and respectful protocol is something that HUFFNUFF cannot understand.

And as I have said previously, I don’t think he even realises this himself

rainer im sorry to dssapoint you in any way but i have met and been in conversation with mamma shirl in the early eighties ,were you born then, im not getting into all of what i know as most has been posted but i am not and have never said do not apologize ,

the question is the forgotten australians suffed just as much as the stolen generation , of which is true and if you can not except that , you shouldn;t be excepting anyapology for you ,as to rest of the aboriginal culture my heart goes out to them and good on them for being apologized to

only if the australian goverment would have the same compassion for the forgotten australians
we all suffered whether it was me or your people ,but we all suffered the rapes and abuse of which occurred not only to the forgotten australians but that of the aboriginies , ,

as i said we are real victims as well , and yes i have many friends that are aboriginials .and i beleave those who have had wrong done to them need justice as that of us forgotten australians ,

the thing is rainer you think i don;t know what is going on ,its like this ,if mr rudd didn;t say sorry what would happen .also i heard on the news that the aborinies want the N.T intervention removed do you think this is a good idea ,

WE ARE ALL LIVING IN THE SAME COUNTRY AND IF ITS GOOD ENOUGH TO SAY SORRY TO YOU AND THE STOLEN GENERATION,ITS GOOD ENOUGH TO SAY SORRY TO US FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIAN

Wow, well I had a conversation with Gough Whitlam in the early 70's, however, this does not make me an expert on Labor politics.

To me it is clear that the intention of this GENREAL POST was not empathise with Aboriginal people at all because you deliberatly separate stolen generations from fogetten generation by implying one is black and the other is white - but then you throw Aboriginal people into you mix when it suites. A clever wedge yes, but very obvious and stupid.

I think you are a very confused man and while you deserve tremendous sympathy and support for what you went through, this does not entitle you to be a boof-head that everyone must except because of this abuse.