Individual... good point "All people love their own".. while I feel personally liberated from that little mental jail, Ranier appears to be still in 'solitary' :) he doesn't tweak to the fact that his anti white diatribes are as racist as the worst he points his bone at.

If he was truly not racist, he would not even see skin color.. he would simply get on with life and be the best he can be.. as all of us should.

I often reflect with amazement that with all Raniers rants about 'institutionlized white racism' he himself appears to have a fairly good position as a higher education lecturer...I just don't get the man sometimes.

Dear Banjo,

I thought that I was being quite clear in my definition of Racism.
Racism has existed throughout human history. Again, I stress that it may be defined as the hatred of one person by another - or the belief that another person is less than human because of skin colour, language, customs, place of birth or any factor that supposedly reveals the basic nature of that person. It has influenced wars, slavery, the formation of nations, and legal codes.

Arguments and philosophies that argue the inborn shortcomings of certain races, especially Black, are based on a false understanding of race. In fact, contemporary scientists are not agreed on whether race is a valid way to classify people. What may seem to be significant "Racial" differences to some people - skin colour, hair, facial shape, et cetera, are not of much scientific significance.
In fact, genetic differences within a so-called race may be greater than those between races.

One philosopher writes:
"There are few genetic characteristics to be found in the population of England that are not found in similiar proportions in Zaire or in China. Those differences that most deeply affect us in our dealings with each other are not to any significant degree biologically determined."

Foxy,
Now we are getting somewhere. I totally agree with the second and third paragraphs of your latest post.

However must disagree with the first paragraph. I would use the words -a lessor human- rather than -less than human- and I say again that language, customs and place of birth have nothing whatsoever to do with racism. The factors involved are only those that suggest a perceived race.

I am no language expert, but the terms 'racist' and 'racism' are commonly misused and the meanings distorted. Sometimes unknowingly and other times deliberately by some.

Dear Banjo,

We are getting somewhere. And even though we may not agree on
everything - Thank-You for expressing your point of view.

Foxy,
Just when I thought we were making progress you remain committed to your views expressed earlier.

I respect your right to hold whatever views you desire, but if you maintain that a negative attitude towards languages other than the predominant one in a society and/or critisism of a culture/customs and/or reference to a nationality or place of birth ammounts to racism, you are clearly wrong.

Foxy- Howdy

Thanks for this thread. I have been watching it with some interest.

In my case I am fighting for meat workers to be allowed to come to Australia and work the same as all other industries.

The Government has singled out just that particular group of workers setting unreasonable conditions that nobody else must comply with.
Clearly this is to protect their grubby mates in the live animal trade like elders and AWB IMOP.


I think what Oliver is saying that when Aussies travel or immigrate to other countries they go with the interest to learn about that culture. Aussies by nature love to learn other cultures.

However many migrants do not come to our country with the same open hearts to learn and love our ways and culture as we do theirs while on their turf.


Oliver dont go to Cairns it’s been over run with Chinese.

They have quite literally brought the town street by street.

I think the only happy ones are Qantas.

They have all the shops and their own staff who mostly do not speak English. I was sad to not see any real Aussie bush characters their in my own country.

I was angry to see the clear disrespect for our health and safety food standards laws and hawking laws also.’

They literally bodily grab hold of you as you walk past insisting they give you massage or you try chicken its good.

At accommodation locations throughout Cairns not many people speak English either.

Nor do they like Aussies staying or being around what they consider their “their” private homes.

These people make no attempt to mix or be friendly.

Sure some are Ok if you didn’t object to a complete take over of your country you wouldn’t be an Aussie-

Why do we give our greatest treasure away for such a cheap tag= PR.

You can be a proud permanent resident for your life time= but not say I am an Aussie a few months after arriving here.

Its Wrong