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Posted by freediver, Sunday, 10 February 2008 5:48:31 PM
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”Try thinking for yourself rather than copying and pasting any old rubbish.”
Pot…kettle…black… YOU copied and pasted a whole list in your initial post off that Ozpolitic site, based this thread on their beliefs AND (unlike me) accept/repeat their opinion blindly. So why are you telling me that I shouldn't copy anything? I think that the few points I copied from an article were ones you needed to see since you fail to understand that Canada ignores EFSA (European Food and Safety Authority) recommendations. But I did forget to include this 2008 link; my excuses. http://blog.stopthesealhunt.com/ ”There is not a more humane way to harvest whales.” Exactly! Only barbaric methods are being used. And that's precisely why all whaling should cease until a more humane method is found. Nations that want to kill whales have the duty to come up with acceptable ways to kill them. I would be more inclined to accept whaling if the killing was done in a more humane way. The same goes for all other animals. Being able to respect the lives of others including animals- isn’t that one of the things that is supposed to make us human? (PS I may not be able to respond for a few days). Posted by Celivia, Monday, 11 February 2008 9:43:28 AM
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"YOU copied and pasted a whole list in your initial post off that Ozpolitic site, based this thread on their beliefs AND (unlike me) accept/repeat their opinion blindly.
I wrote the article on OzPolitic. "So why are you telling me that I shouldn't copy anything? I'm not. I'm saying you should think for yourself. You obviously didn't pass a critical eye over that stuff before you posted it. "since you fail to understand that Canada ignores EFSA (European Food and Safety Authority) recommendations. Again, so what? They are Canadians, not Europeans. Since when does the entire world need to obey European law? Think about what you are copying. "Being able to respect the lives of others including animals- isn’t that one of the things that is supposed to make us human? Respicting all life and denying your natural role in it are not the same thing. Posted by freediver, Monday, 11 February 2008 11:48:53 AM
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Freediver I didn't realise that you wrote the info on that website; you have obviously done a lot of research on the matter, more than I have.
I'm just against the killing of animals if it's done in a cruel and barbaric way. I think that this method of killing whales hasn't improved much at all over the years. Do you know whether people are actually looking at new ways/innovations that can be developed so that the suffering can be shortened and the harvesting of whales will be done more humanely? I find it hard to accept that in a technically and medically advanced age, no effort is being put into finding better ways of doing this. There should be pressure put on whaling nations to find a solution. Posted by Celivia, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 9:28:15 PM
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I'm sure plenty of people are thinking about it. They're just short on ideas. I'm not aware of any proposals or trials. Killing a wild animal that large is always going to be difficult and dangerous. The explosives probably help a bit. The only improvement I could think of would be a bigger gun, or more of them. Maybe a poison or drug could help also, if you could get one that didn't taint the meat.
Posted by freediver, Thursday, 14 February 2008 11:20:05 AM
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There is no need to kill these wonderful animals especially in 'our waters'.
Perhaps using ammo is the answer but not at the whales the creeps from Japan who regally also round up dolphins and bash them to death. Yes Ammo is an option and I hope one day someone with more money than me puts together an army of protectors of our most innocent- the animals. You know all blood is red and it’s "their turn." Blow the bastards out of the water that have the hide to insult us by saying its science. Well let’s do some tests ourselves in the name of Science I say. SHAME ON THEM and anybody who support either them or live exports or intensive farming. I look forward to the day when somebody actually gets serious about the animals we share the earth with. Who do we think we are= we are not superior we are just an arrogant race of another animals that has proven to be the most cruel of all. They are called Humans and they are the ruination of the world. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 15 February 2008 9:25:19 AM
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So what?
"Disturbing that bond can have ecological and evolutionary implications for long term survival of whale populations.
BS.
* Seal hunt observers have documented numerous cases of injured, conscious seals stockpiled and suffering on the ice.
Same with every other hunting technique. Not that these observers can be trusted. They probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a dead twitching animal and a live one, given their lack of experience in killing.
* Canadian legislation has actually been moving backwards.
If you face the right way, it is forwards.
* Observations by groups such as IFAW and others are likely to represent “best practices.”
According to whom? IFAW? Try thinking for yourself rather than copying and pasting any old rubbish.
"I agree that omnivores and carnivores will always kill for food, but as humans we need to make sure that the breeding, raising and killing of animals is done in the most humane way possible.
There is not a more humane way to harvest whales.