daggett,
agree with your comment. We were going to post basic background of media control and then respond.

Asymeonakis said
Our democracy is extremely weak, our democracy is captivated by the corporations that control the mass media.

pale replies

true and like to discuss this aspect further as well. Steel, said

I don't care much about this specific topic except to state that the free press we are told we have, is not so free at all. Replace government control with private control (under one or two large companies) and you simply assert private agendas over government agendas (which is what we have). And Rudd's government is looking terrible so far on several fronts, including both censorship and control of government department statements.
pale replies
I think its private agendas `with` Governments that are the problem and its fair to say both sides of politics have played their role in this unfair and unethical practise not just labour.

bellys reply to Bronco

I have never differed more with a post in my life!
And boy that is saying something.
Is Bronco having a go at us? well unlikely from the very left it appears this is how he thinks.

pale Comments
Bronco is using his right to voice his views not having a go and anybody in particular.

Hi Everbody we have had some difficulty with a new soft wear programe that tends to jump leaving out letters creating spelling errors.
Please accept our apoligies and we are working on it.

Contiuned= THE PRESS

With the trend turning more towards gloalisation of the media, and not withstanding the unevenness of this trend.

Juilianne Schults wrote
The media has become so diverse and pervasaive that it was easy to forgot that even the largest conglomerates have their roots in the press. Newspapers were the starting point for all of Australias major commercial news organisations and ethos of the press continued to influence the culture of these companies, even as they became irrevocably entertaiment driven, expoloying new techmethods.
News corp limited grew from owing Adelaide afternoon newspaper John Fairfax ltd.

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John fairfax ltd known mainly for its newspapers , since 1831 but with a range of other media and excpects that multimedia would make up s fifth of its busuness by the end of the centuray.
Australian Consolidated Press, the owner of the nine network ,had a stable magazines and a vast array of other entertainments and commericial propoerties which grew from the Sydney daily teli.

profseeor Stuart Cunningham the Schol of Media and Jouralism at the QLD Unviversity and Graeme Turner Professor of studies have together written a book (or several books) on the Australian media.
To anybody interesred i would suggest its a really good read.

Media ownership and control in Australia has effected my life personally and you are kidding yourself if you think it has not affexted you regaless ofwhom you are reading this.

Moving on =
Its only with the history of political role and clamied indepedence of press the media companies have learned how to excersise political independence of the press that media companies have political influence.
Study the transformation of the newspaper business in Australia over the past two hundred years to see the establishment of the patterns and processes that have resulted in the media indusrty we have today.

Belly and Comrades All. The Broad Left is the largest faction but unfortunately it is always outvoted by the New Right, The Right, The Burke Catholic Faction, The Centre and the non aligned. That is Democracy and long may it last through education and debate Comrades have realised that the selling of the family silver such as Qantas, Commonwealth Bank, Rural and Industries Bank, SGIO, etc was a big big big mistake so Socialist are learning. Eastern States ALP are all very close to the Liberal Party Politically that is why the ALP have always held office with a right of Centre Leader. Britain has always been the same Tony Benn was always character assasinated by the right wing press as a wild eyed Communist which he was not. The Right Wing Media is not democratic, Accountable or fair minded it destroys truly decent people and bolsters up liars and cheats who are not sincerely for the people but are there only as a puppet for the Multi Nationals and their empires. The Right Wing Press always places Trade Unions in a bad light which is unjustified.

Dear PALE your input in this thread has been first class. We often read the West Australian and all of its Journalists never ever write about the plight of the Australian Sheep that are trucked from all over to the Ports this barbaric sin has gone long and far enough. We stopped whaling here in Australia now we must Campaign to stop the exports of live animals for slaughter we have to use the columns of those right wing newspapers to get our message accross and demand the right of reply.

Belly and PALE for the life of me I cannot understand why you are both digging each other out from what I have read from you both politically you are both very close. I take it that you are both Socialist certainly not a selfish Conservative you appreciate disciplined organised unions that are not self interest but are socialist. You are both compassionateand caring so for goodnes sake unite together to help change and bring about a better world for our grand children to live in a caring compassionate Society.

Bronco
Welcome Back - I hope you are going to stick around because eventually I am going to show what you quite clearly already know and that is the direct ( very direct) link between live animal exports and the cruel factory intensive farms where animals are jammed in under the most unhealthy cruel conditions not even being able to s spread their wings or for a intellergent animal such as a pig turn round.

Then they are stuffed of course to the eye ball with drugs every single day with antibiotics which creates super bugs and disease.

Then people buy those products and feed it to their family.

You would be amazed at the amount of people for example that have no clue that bird flue is in fact from factory intensive farming of birds
Its as simple as that.
For those of yopu who are thinking to themselves= Ah Gee there goes pale again = off topic think again.

When was the last time you saw on TV or heard on the radio or read in a newspaper the awful facts about intensive factory farming or live exports which is stealing this countrys future but sending our raw materials off before value adding in our most valuable form instead of producing here.

No you have never hear that on TV Radio Newspapers= Thats my point.