Ms Vickers

Every serious political analyst in the nation and almost all Liberal MPs agree that WorkChoices was the one issue above all others that tipped the people against the Coalition Government. Even John Howard realised he had gone too far by belatedly introducing changes to WorkChoices and insisting that the word 'WorkChoices' be dropped from Government documentation and within the Public Service.

If I were a Labor strategist, I'd relish the thought of the Coalition blocking Labor reforms to WorkChoices in the Senate. It would be a significant boost to the ALP at the next election whether that be a general election or a Double Dissolution.

Maybe you are really an ALP member incognito playing mind games with the Coalition?

The title says it all "we still hold the senate". What makes conservative trolls think they have the right to control the upper house. Its not the House of Lords you know and even Victoria stopped appointing its upper house and even runs "elections" for the upper house.

I think the first thing Rudd should do on July 1 is abolish the senate's ability to refuse supply.

"Government by the people, in the people's house" -GW

Abolish the Senate!

I have been grateful we have a senate often as things have been stalled there that would have passed .
But while some will fight to keep it did Australia vote so that one independent could hold the country to ransom?
Was it our will that 5 green senators have sway far beyond the total number of voters they attract?
Yes in the interests of both sides of politics get rid of the senate.
But know the strangest thing, those who represent the three other groups, 2 independents and the greens will say it is undemocratic.
One vote one value would be a better way in the lower House to, if the outcome is voters wishes are filled it must be ok.

Why shouldn't people who vote Green have some representation in Parliament. The problem is not the 5 Green senators, it's the rump of Liberal senators that survive from the previous Parliament.