J Bennett where is the evidence that children are more at risk in the care of homosexuals than in the care of hetrosexuals?

You keep harping back to protecting children but I've not seen any evidence which suggests that homosexual parents pose a greater risk to children than hetrosexual parents. Unless that point is established the rest of what you say is meaningless.

It's my understanding that a sexual attraction to children is a different thing to same sex attraction, sometime the two may coincide but that they are different attractions.

R0bert

My prediction: by the time this thread has finally dies, same sex couples will already be getting married in the A.C.T.

Honestly, get over it.

My prediction is that the average social intelligence of homosexuals will decrease in the near future till this nation wakes up in shari'ah heaven and the unhygenic practise of anal sex then becomes a criminal offense.

One advantage of a forum like OLO, with visitors like Philo and J Bennett, is that the rest of the world gets exposed to gay people’s daily reality.

We deal with this kind of hate, spite and even violence every day. Most importantly, the homo-haters do it in secret, with no witnesses except their victims. Here, behind the cover of anonymity, they feel emboldened to give voice to their poison.

Some of them, of course, are simply trolls, but still they are expressing sentiments which are too widely held, and too often hurled at same-sex-attracted people.

So long as equality is withheld from sexual minorities simple-minded bigots will continue to vilify, threaten and assault us (following the motto that the government doesn't treat gays equally, so why should I?). Our government has the power to rob these people of the phoney justification for their hate.

Equality needs to be granted completely, and soon.

By the way, thank you Country Gal for your encouragement. I think you’re on quite a journey, and it’s been a pleasure to accompany you part of the way.

Philo,

I read a book review of a book authored by a man claiming a same sex attraction. From memory I believe that the author was arguing that people with same sex attractions should back off a little with respect to Christians. This is on the basis of a trend for Islam to move in where Christianity dies out.

I believe his position turned on his claim that, although Christians don’t advocate acting out a same sex attraction, they don’t make death penalties for people who act on them. Accordingly, he considered us the better option.

I don’t know if the author was just trying to make money from the book or if that really is the trend and penalty. I never got around to checking.

I've been called many things by the more aggressive posters in this forum, but 'right wing pervert' is a first. It's tempting to resort to lowering myself to your level, but then I'd be guilty of the same weak arguments.

I outlined some history, nothing more or less.

Your so called concern for 'the children' is merely a trojan horse for you to push a discriminatory agenda.

I've been arguing primarily for the recognition of same sex couples to avoid discrimination - be it tax, insurance or other issues.
I haven't really touched on the issue of children, though I don't see that stopping you from constructing a point of view for me.

What's so stupid about your posts J Bennett is that you honestly seem to think homosexuals already have equal rights aside from the adoption issue.

Putting the adoption issue aside - if you think this is the case, you're so incredibly wrong, it's beyond a joke. I can't comprehend this level of naivete.

-Didn't you notice the title of this thread?
-Haven't you been paying attention to the debate in the wider media?
-Aren't you aware that in the last few days, there's been a commentary about passing this responsibility to the states?

We do NOT already have same sex civil unions as you casually slipped into a sentence earlier.

You later claimed that you were just concerned for the children, but until I see you accept how wrong you are on this first count, and either declare neutrality or support for at least ending the cycle of discrimination against gay couples (outside of the adoption issue) then it's a clear indication that this concern for the children of yours is bulldust.

Your ignorance on the state of civil unions proves you're nothing more than an uninformed troll.

No I'm not arguing for discrimination against women. Learn a little history and get some perspective.
Arguing for rights for some people is not a condemnation of others.