Here's a life story that has bugged me for many years (though I suspect I always knew the answer to it) that I would like to hear discussion on (maybe Jims death has bugged you too?)
One minute Jim Henson is with us, the next gone...brought down within hours by a strep infection...so they say.
Question: looking at Jims' life (via en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Henson and whatever else you might read on him) do you notice anything different or unusual in the course of his "life works" that might have changed the "Divine View" of his time on earth?

What are you talking about Gibo?

You didnt notice anything unusual about Jim Hensons life and death EasyTimes?
I guess few people outside of the committed christian churches really did. Many of us were shocked with the suddenness of his demise as well, though not totally surprised. I often wonder! how many others do today, what Jim did in his days?
Here was a man with huge power and influence over children and growing minds on a global basis...so lets not play this down.
In his hands he had the vastness of influence over a generation of hundreds of millions of youngsters to sway them towards good or towards evil.
For many years he maintained the status quo of providing education through Sesame Street then light entertainment through the Muppets. Then the change began. Then came the move over to witchcraft and evil. The Dark Crystal, then Labyrinth (one of the most bizarre films there ever was)... then The Story Teller.
Do you see what happened? Do you see what he was doing to the children of the Gods world?
From the Old Testament through to the end of the New Testament (Revelation 21:8) we are warned about magic and occult practices.
We are warned that doing those things aligns us with satan and his evil spirits. We are warned of CONSEQUENCES.
And here is Jim... luring a whole generation of children over into satans dark, demon-infested camp. Do you see why some men die early and mysteriously? If you dont... you need to study witchcraft at length and see what it does to lives. In third world countries it, and the fallen spirits powers, control and persecute the lives in whole communities. They do it to many in the west as well. JK Rowling with her Harry Potter books is doing today what Jim Henson did all of those years ago. I wonder if someone is warning her?

Oh Gibo, you are such a funny bugger.

I guess Bugsy you have to believe in simple things like cause and effect, action and reaction...crime and punishment...sin and Judgment to see what I was getting at.
It helps to believe there is a God and there is a spirit war going on between good and evil on the earth (Ephesians 6:12-18) between Holy beings and demon darkness and that if you breach the rules by abusing power or authority...you can get hurt.
Jim Henson, bigtime, broke the rules of the war in his zeal for his craft which in the end lead young children to witchcraft.
Thats what Im suggesting.
A classic example of sin and "death judgment" is Ananias and Saffira in Acts chapter 5. Ananias and his wife Saffira sold a field and promised to give the money to the apostles but when the time came they witheld some of the money and then lied about it and subesequently died. I didnt see the spirit world "touch" Jim Henson but it looks like it to me.

Beware the Satanic Muppets!

(I don't suppose I should make a sock puppet joke right now...)

Why stop at those Satanic Muppet demons?

There's plenty of sources of evil in the movie world, masquerading as family entertainment, as can be seen at this very informative and educational site.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/movies.html

I also recommend the 60 Second Sermons, for an insight into this way of thinking.

So Gibo, I suppose Enid Blyton's demise was the hand of God as well??

Look, you can draw these sorts of sudden deaths against the supposed sins of the person, but at the end of the day there have been far more evil people in the world that God has left untouched, so thats where the argument falls down.

As for the Bible stories, dont forget that the Bible is but the interpretation of man and as such has been heavily edited over the years. The passage that you point out really is no different to similar stories of divine revenge from any other religion (including paganism).

Oh man, I haven't laughed so hard in ages. Nice one Gibo, keep it up.

So, allow me to summarise.

Jim Henson wielded power over the minds of children, so God put out a contract on him, and had him whacked him using a strep infection... largely because he dared to make a movie like the Dark Crystal.

Ahh! Muppets!

Gibo you do more to turn people away from the stupidity of fundamentalism than I ever could. Please... don't stop.

So... what's next? JK Rowling gets murdered by a renegade haemorrhoid?

Well, whatever we feel about Jim Henson he was 1. in an enormously powerful position with the children at his feet, 2. he did in fact go off the narrow path Jesus speaks about and begin to lead the children into a dark realm of demon powers (you folk have really got to read that Word of God and what is known about evil spirits and how they destroy lives. Wheres your well-rounded life knowledge if you have a hole in any area of "knowledge available" and truth?), and 3. he did die under sudden unusual circumstances. I havent looked super deep into his death but like JK Rowling he would have had the warnings in his face for a while before dying. God raises men and women up to give warnings.
Jesus talks about putting a millstone around the neck of those who lead children astray into sin and throwing them into the deepest part of the ocean (Matthew 18:6)...and thats Holy Bible whether we believe it or not. "All scripture is inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16). Its not a man written book, like many of you folk think!

Keep 'em coming Gibo, where's Atlantis again? Saudi Arabia isn't it? LOL

Here's a riddle for you - if a man writes a book, but says it's inspired by god - who wrote it?

Gibo, if I write a book and say it's inspired by god, does that mean I too can command you to discriminate against dangerous threats to society such as muppets or Harry Potter?

Hi Bugsy. I believe Atlantis is a myth perpetuated by evil spirit powers. You can do a bit of research via the net if you want? Try <atlantis, demon, evil spirit>. The only problem with taking anything about Atlantis as genuine truth, is that satans little ones lie about everything. So if men are getting a story of a great civilisation with a great light power system its probably dribble anyway. I dont believe in Atlantis, just for your records.
TRTL. If the Word says "All scripture is inspired by God", whats the problem? To say men wrote it is unenlightment. It cuts out The Holy Spirit and His works. God sat the men down. Then He inspired them, under the POWER of The Holy Spirit, to write what He wanted the history to be. Its His Story. This is not a bunch of guys through history making up stories. Its a group of men... under the POWER of The Holy Spirit... doing the writing. Thats what makes The Word unique. GOD INSPIRED! Can you dig it? How about some help under "Is Communism still there"?

But Gibo, Stan Deyo fervently believes in Atlantis. Plato mentions Atlantis, and Plato predates Christ by around 400 years, and said that the story was handed down to his grandfather from long before then (~9000yrs!). Stan Deyo also believes he has found the site of the ancient civilisation. You believe in demons, UFOs and witchcraft, but not Atlantis? Odd.

Gibo: "TRTL. If the Word says "All scripture is inspired by God", whats the problem? To say men wrote it is unenlightment. It cuts out The Holy Spirit and His works. God sat the men down. Then He inspired them, under the POWER of The Holy Spirit, to write what He wanted the history to be. Its His Story. This is not a bunch of guys through history making up stories."

Gibo, try using some critical reasoning.

How can you know this word was inspired by god? All you have to go by, is the word of these men.

Here is a hypothetical for you Gibo -

1) Would it be possible for just "a bunch of guys through history to make up stories?"

Logically the answer has to be yes - after all, there are competing faiths where other stories of the like have been written as well. They can't all be right, so it must be possible for a bunch of guys to write some scripture.

So we've established it's possible a bunch of guys made up some writings.

Now, in the event a bunch of men made up a whole bunch of stories, perhaps loosely based on historical events with some mysticism added for flavour, wouldn't it be logical for them to attempt to give it some credibility?

How could they do this?

Ah! Why couldn't they say it's inspired by god? I mean, isn't everything ultimately inspired by god?

That doesn't make Peter Pan any more accurate (though maybe that's evil witchcraft to you. You seem to have a very expansive concept of evil).

You keep saying the bible isn't just a bunch of stuff made up by guys through history.
And what do you put forward to back your case? The stuff written by these guys, which says they're more than a bunch of guys.

Problem there, Gibo, is that a bunch of guys would have written that too. Though, regrettably, there always seem to be people out there who are easily led.

We, the born again christians, know TRTL that the Holy Bible is totally inspired by God because! of One Person only, The Holy Spirit.
When you confess the sin and ask Jesus Christ in as your Lord and Saviour (and do it fair dinkum...you really mean it) you recieve The Holy Spirit and He Confirms all truth. "All who call on the Name of The Lord will be saved"...Romans 10:13.
This is what the world either forgets or doesnt wish to know.
Its The Holy Spirit living within the believer Who Confirms all truth about the Holy Bible. Its so simple.
The world uplifts its philosophy and it own idea of how things came about but! its The Holy Spirit living within the believer who shows the truth. We know the Bible is inspired by God and we know how He did it. He sat the writers down and The Holy Spirit came upon them and they wrote in The Holy Ghost what God Wanted them to write. Its never ever, ever, ever been complex.

And yet Gibo, everything you just spouted comes from the bible. If the bible is false, then everything you just said is false.

The only corroborating information you have, is the same bible.
If it's false... oh for crying out loud. I give up.

Ignorance I can understand and forgive. Imposing it on yourself by refusing to consider logic... that's just maddening.

Tell me Gibo, if you were running the country, would you be banning things like the Dark Crystal and Harry Potter? Would you be at the forefront of a new dark age of imposed ignorance?

No TRTL the corroborating information is a He, The Holy Spirit. I said it to you. Its The Holy Spirit Who Confirms The Holy Bible to be true. I guess you will just have to confess your sins to God, invite Jesus into your life and thank Him for dying on the Cross for your sins... then recieve The Holy Spirit Who Will confirm it all to you. Its not complex.
*As for what would I do if I was in charge of the nation?
I would do what Jesus Christ WILL do on His Second Coming. Everything that is not of God must go. Man, off doing his own thing, without God in Charge, has already poisoned the world physically, mentally, spiritually.
Lets look to a new beginning... and please no occult to give fallen concepts any glory.