Yabby
Fair enough -I just get cranky.

You shouldnt blame Dickey for what PETA put out Yabby.

After all whats your beef with Dickie anyway?

Makes up for a few gutless men.

Met one such bloke this morning- Dr Douglass the National rep for Nerang.
Anyway moving on- Yo Dickey

Crikey dont tell me PETA are finally getting the message.?

Stone the crows!

Let you in on a little secret Dickie.

Thats not how real Muslims speak about Haram products.
This is how they speak-

http://www.livexports.com/afic.html

Here you go compliments of the Tasi Government no less.

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:t93mjl51IocJ:www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/agency/pro/multicultural/documents/HalalandHaramFactsheetjul04.pdf+halal+haram&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=au
Blimey I just took another look at that picture.

I say thats not Glensye is it? And all this time I thought she wasnt listening- Praise Allah!
Funny as.

No Dickie I am NOT having a crack at you.

Yabby must be beside himself with amusment.

Whats even funnier - or sadder, if you like,- is THEY think they are for real.
They never figured out the done deal votes for the good old democrates. OR DID THEY Glenyse. After all you used to work for Andrew in the Dems office a life time ago didnt you?

Pathetic.

No wonder why Yabby enjoys taking the Mickey .

Now let me tell you the REAL facts Dickie- just so you at least know thruth.

A We offered PETA to work WITH Muslim leaders in Australia and overseas establishing groups of Muslim Australian who opposed the cruel live animal trade.

They hung up in our ear several times. They have refused to `even reply `to correspondence.

B We offered AA and AL the 'same deal'- but they work with PETA so it was no.

Umm and after that-the so called peak represntative of Animal Welfare in Australia[ Self Appointed] black listed us and we were refused as members of WSPA.


Dickie- Do you know what the best part is?

-We have got it in writing!

The real mystery Dickie is Why?

Ah Patience.

"The Halal ingredient must not be mixed, or even come into contact with Haram materials. The act of slaughtering is to ensure the quality of meat and to avoid any microbial contamination. For example, a dead but un-slaughtered animal is normally associated with disease."

Dear me. I will need to inform the Muslim populations on my next email that the live animals they are slaughtering have the potential to be "Haram."

Do they realise that these live animals have been on a ship, crammed in with hundreds of "dead but un-slaughtered animals" which were diseased, thereby having the potential to infect the surviving ones with "Haram?"

Many of the sheep who didn't survive the journey, have had the very contagious scabby mouth. What's the latency period before the symptons of this disease emerges in the surviviors?

How foul.......this means consumers could be eating "Halal" laced with invisible scabs!

Bad luck Dickie, but Scabby Mouth does not affect humans and does
not kill sheep. Animals sent to Saudi Arabia are vaccinated
for it. Thats exactly why the ME like Australian livestock,
they are the healthiest and best conditioned available.

Meantime there has been another outbreak of Rift Valley
Fever in Sudan, which is where the Saudis have been sourcing
more and more cattle. That kills people and livestock. So
demand for Australian product can only increase.

Given that you now know that Muslims should be kind to animals,
hopefully you will join farmers in assisting to change animal
welfare practises in the ME. Even Peta are getting in on that
bandwagon now, it seems. Perhaps they have learnt from us.

You have got to be in it, to win it!

http://www.afic.com.au/Halal.htm#animal
http://www.afic.com.au/Halal.htm

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:MEz59CSzgzMJ:www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/rrat_ctte/animal_welfare05/submissions/sub72.pdf+afic+kind+to+animals&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=au

hope its all starting to become a little clearer for you Dickie.

Your correct. Live Exports is not Halal.

ME people are a bit like us here. They dont always know or see what goes on.
The way in which to speed up the process would be to do a 60 Minutes or such on `their` TV .

There are Many Many Many Muslim People who simply would not tolerate the treatment Animals recieve.

Mostly for a different reason than you and I think.

They key is to get this out to the people over there.

As you know some people in Australia still ask- What are live exports?

Same over there. Not all streets are littered with Animals having their throats cut in the main street.'

If a slaughterman is `known` to perform a haram product he is vanished from the area.

Its a very serious offence. The shame facter is enormous.

Not shame of having made an Animal suffer but shame of producing haram meats.
Now if I were a betting man I would say that Yabby is right to a point.

A little more education in the right areas when we are ready will certainly assist the next Halal company to take over the Industry.

Its there for the taking.
I would say you wouldnt have too much trouble selling your co joint farm and abattoir arrangments with ME business men and Ausie farmers .
Yabby is right by saying Australia Free Green products are a number one with ME Muslims.

Dont think MLA or Austrade who are government funded will assist in creating Jobs for us and taking Animal Welfare seriously.

Old Ian Ross who is MLA top man told me when he called there was no way they would be offering these deals to Middle East.

Farmers Federations have refused to hear about it or allow us to promote the ME Aussie Co joint Share Plants and farms as well.

Its protect the cruel Live Animal Trade at all costs!

"Bad luck Dickie, but Scabby Mouth does not affect humans and does
not kill sheep.

The scary thing about you Yabby is that you lie without the blink of an eye. Were you ever taught right from wrong?

I prefer to take my advice from the Department of Primary Industries Victoria thank you Yabby where they state:

"Scabby mouth IS contagious to humans."

http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/dpi/nreninf.nsf/LinkView/986A9588C989CF8BCA256C1A0020FB2E5FA46B2D7E0F5E9E4A256DEA00274704

Sheep also suffer pulpy kidney, cheesy gland, lice and foot-rot, pink eye, white muscle disease, prolapsed anuses and vulvas etc etc.

Then Muslims eat them after we've dosed them up with antibiotics - drugs which compromise the health of humans.

And we haven't yet mentioned the camels, deer, goats or cattle.

So I guess the death count for sheep on the ships of shame have now exceeded three million, wouldn't you agree Yabby?

That includes of course, the 40,600 sheep which were burnt alive at sea on the Farid Fares.

Not very sporting eh........and very bad Haram, yes indeed!

I've never heard of a human case Dickie. Perhaps one exists somewhere. If its contagious, why don't Aussie farmers, who
use the live vaccine get it? Its basically a non issue.

Of course sheep die on boats, as they die on land. People
die on boats, planes, on land too.

You only have to get a mob of sheep into a set of yards,
you can get deaths. They are not the smartest of creatures,
with far more muscle then brains. Put cattle or sheep
into a feedlot, you will have deaths too. Boats are
simply floating feedlots. Are you going to try and
ban all feedlots now?

A 1% death rate is acceptable, given a sheep's life
is around 5-6 years. On farm, they quote 5%. So thats
5 million a year, of our 100 million sheep population.

But then again, vets and qualified people understand all
this. Given that you haven't the foggiest about sheep and
try to relate it to your pet pooch, you don't.

We are back to the same old problem. Unqualified veggies
trying to pass judgement over an issue they simply
don't understand. Ignorance is bliss! Just like Peta
and their mulesing campaign.