Ah come forth the leftist. Opinionated what would you have the government do?

Round me and all the other calious uncaring ninties types up and give us some re-education Pyongyang style.

What sought of bloke do you think it takes to be a front line soldier?

Could you or your latte sipping bleeding hearts brigade handle 150 odd days in the bush every year,
physical training to the level of an athlete,
walking around with near your own body weight on your back,
being injured, getting (dihareoa)sic, sleeping in the dirt, blisters and to top it off the chance of catching a bullet or being killed in training.

Didnt think so.

A soldiers life is rewarding but hard and they deserve the respect of the community and not to be tarred with the same brush of a few dingbats.

Bastardisation is a thing of the past in the ARMY at least, that side of the Army has been cut away by the namby pamby brigade.

I served with a gay soldier who came out at the boozer in front of the battalion. Nothing ever happened to him because he was one of us.
And God help any one else who touched him.

We look after our own

Scotty - Ah just what I expected the hard nut... you're a lefty crap. And the rounding you up "Pyongyang style" was a lovely touch of drama - you should be on the stage!

No I'm for law and order even when you wear the uniform of a soldier.

Plus I expect people who come across hard nuts who bully them to be protected by the very oath you guys swear. Yep obeying one's countries orders means no bullying, bashing or any other type of tough guy dribble!

And gee you guys allowed a gay guy in your unit... Wow how modern thinking. Congratulations!

I have the utmost respect for all people in uniform who serve their country - Yep even you Scotty. Put you back pack and diarrhea down for a tick and learn the language of modern thinking. But firstly thank you and congratulations for serving our country!

The problem you have Scotty is that you say how we should respect soldiers and in the next breath undermine today's soldiers because they aint as tough as you guys thought you were. Afterall you said the bastardisation side wasn't cut away by the big men of the army but the namby pamby side.

I stand for law and order even in the services and expect the heads of the services to strictly observe it - what do you stand for?

HMMM calling me the C word, Graham wont like that too much.

Look Im really sorry about your son however I dont see what he has to do with this thread. Perhaps you could have taught him self defence and not wrapped him in cotton wool.

No Ive never bullied anyone and have never been bullied. Ive copped a few on the chin and learnt from mistakes. What doesnt kill you should make you stronger and all that.

I dont see what putting my name on a public forum would do, are you threatening me with violence? Ive said nothing illegal or defamatory.
Why dont you put your email and name up then we can trade insults like chidren do or maybe I can invite you round to bash me up that will make you feel better wont it

Pull your head in your a silly little man bitter at the world for bullying your boy thats not my fault its your fault for not putting a stop to it. You felt powerless then as now, does he have a drug problem to go with it thats your fault to. Mindless drongo you dont have a bloody clue do you....

That was a good testimony BOAZ_David.
I appreciated it. Strange how it all comes back after so many years. I got a bit wound up.
Scotty began to show his real colours after a good interesting first letter.
"Inherant larrikin service carnality" I suspect. I think its one of the injections some of the more biff ones get with their initial medicals. Pity it wasnt a shot of Jesus in their arms. Christian revival in the military sorely lacks!
Letting off steam for service people can be broad thing. Getting blown by booze, punching people up, touching the girls (and worse...I wonder what the real story is with women being raped in the services? A deeply hidden story I suspect. Parents remember that when your little girl wants to sign on) or killing the kittens (like those at Townsville barracks a while back. Brave boys).
The full story about military thefts never gets out either.
Are the Sandline weapons still intact up at Tindal Air base in the NT or have some drifted away?
The times are darkening ...we need a disciplined military. We need services where the women are safe, not groped at or leared at or made sly sexual comments to.
The PLA will be smiling today at what we have as soldiers in this country. They know in their hearts Australias servicemen are no match for them. The Book of Revelation 9:16 and 16:12 says one day they are coming. Outwards and westwards across asia towards Israel and maybe southwards on to Australia (many revelations from the Lord about this). And thats no drama on my part because The Word is true.

My heart is always for the women in our services and for the young guy starting out who has had a good home life and who has been deceived by the recruiting propaganda and believes he is going to a safe environment and who has never had his testicles bootpolished and has no knowlledge of the paganism at the end of the line (rites of passage arent they marvellous).
I want to see an open inquiry into rape in the army, navy and airforce. I will be happy with that.
PS: dont ever tell me it doesnt happen. That safeguards are in place. That this is the "modern military". Its as fallen as it has ever been because the larrikin/hoodlum lives on and has never been rounded up and brought to justice.

Alan..... Scotty might not be everyones cuppa here.. but he does speak a bit of truth in this:

"When you have to go to a battle field as I have done you need to know that the guy beside you is not going to crap himself and cry like a baby at the first shot going over your head."

The real issue is bonding. Whatever bonds you with ur mates can be good or bad.
Bastardization ABSOLUTELY does that, but it's bad.. but there are better ways for sure.

In the armed forces, 'violence' is what you are ultimately training for. To KILL people.. lets not dance around the mulberry bush on that score.

My only real regret about the pounding I got from that bloke..is that I didn't hit back. (on that occasion) I should have pushed his nose through the back of his head.

A better approach in my view would be competitive self defense/boxing/martial arts between intakes. That way its controlled and you still get to let off the steam and improve your combat skills.

The biggest danger of bastardization is the emotional scars for sure... and I sometimes don't really like myself when I contemplate what I might do if I met that bloke today.. I know one thing I'd do.. say to him the same words he said to me which triggered the battering "Frog.. ur f-weak arn't you" (using f instead of the expletive).. then.. see what he does.

I used to be pretty handy with my fists in those days, (judging by the small number of encounters I had) now.. I'm manyfold more capable.
and I've never forgotten that bloke.. nor really forgiven...because he has never expressed sorrow..if he did, I'd forgive him.

The first word of the Gospel..is.. 'repent'..and I apply that to my relationships with others in regard to how they have treated me.