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What happened when GAY meant..joyous?

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I was in the shop the other day and I over heard a guy ask the check out guy how much it was for a gaytime. It went REAL quiet for a sec, then everyone lost it. The poor bugger was bright red holding on to the icecream.
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 5:15:39 PM
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It was a quieter time of course in those days. People had respect for Gods Word and what He was saying in it. We loved the Queen as kids. And the flag. No one cursed Canberra or state leadership. Not good people. There was mutual respect throughout society. We didnt generally talk much about the homosexual. Or drugs. Or porn. Then the music changed, probably around Elvis/Beatles/Stones time and things went wild. Kennedy got shot, conspiracy theory came to the surface, the world changed, Vietnam came and flower power, drugs became it, the homosexuals used the era to become "gay" in order to justify their behaviour.
I know many christians who believe that satan did the whole corrupting of youth thing through music. Look back at the music of the immediate post-world war2 period and see the changes in the beat from then on. Now its demonic. We lost gay as being joyous through the change of the beat.
Posted by Gibo, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 7:19:11 PM
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Oh sure, things were much better back then Gibo, what with the Korean War and Second World War and young men getting their bits blown off and everything. Or were you referring to before then? The Great Depression, and the rise of Nazism and Communism perhaps? Yes, things were much simpler back then.
Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 7:38:42 PM
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Gibo,
I don't share your religous aspect in this however, I agree that it was the Pop noise (music) which gave the unable to think for themselves a voice. In the earlier years it was totally the opposite. It was the intelligent elite who became decadent out of sheer boredom from excess. In the 50's & up to the present it is largely the working class consumers who blindly oblige the marketeers' who make these fools believe that they too can live the high life.
The fundamental difference is that the baby boomers still had some ethics despite their lack of morals in contrast to a great %age of today's youths who have no education, nor morals & even less ethics.
Yes, Bugsy things have been bad in the past but don't fool yourself about the very near future, worse has yet to come & it's not going to be all gay in either sense of the word.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 11:02:44 PM
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individual and gibo.

It's rather amusing listening to your harsh criticism of the following generation.
I take some comfort from the fact that every generation has disparaged the one following it as unruly and reckless.
Though I must admit, it makes the adage 'respect your elders' much more difficult when in many cases, they're unable to show any respect for the younger subset, instead pining for a utopian past that never really existed outside of their own perception - which is probably shaped by the fact that it was the time when they were young, and thus seemed much more pleasant.

It's also interesting that the older generation loves to criticise the educational standards of the younger ones - however the generations of today are far more aware of what's going on in the world around them.

I suppose the overall fact of the matter is that generations today are harder to manipulate - due to the rise in media avenues, they're far more aware of what's going on in the world around them, and wuite frankly, they won't swallow the same bull that was fed to their forebears.

individual: "The fundamental difference is that the baby boomers still had some ethics despite their lack of morals in contrast to a great %age of today's youths who have no education, nor morals & even less ethics."

Actually, I consider the boomers far less ethical. They're the ones waging war right now. They had free education, and due to the population spike, they've been able to vote for policies that favour them. Soon they'll be aging and the following generations will have to support them in huge numbers.
So I find that statement a bit rich.

As for the 'evils' of pop music... gosh! How dare they express themselves!
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 4 October 2007 9:47:14 AM
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Gay still means happy and joyous ... and proud.
Posted by jpw2040, Thursday, 4 October 2007 10:17:58 AM
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