In what can only be described as a whitewash, as expected the Israeli Defence Force has decided not to pursue criminal charges against its soldiers involved in the 2024 drone strike that killed Australian aid worker Zomi Frankcom and six of her colleagues in Gaza. Israel’s ambassador to Australia, Hillel Newman was called into Parliament House by foreign affairs minister, Penny Wong and told that this decision was unacceptable to Australia. Newman refused to apologise, and as usual went on the defensive with rhetoric about “There are a lot of haters of Israel in Australia,”. Unfortunately this blatant act of a murderous war crime by Israeli soldiers of an innocent Australian citizen, followed by a whitewash, can only fuel that "hatred" Mr Newman likes to refer to.

In my opinion the Israeli ambassador should be expelled from Australia, and the Australian ambassador to Israel should be recalled.

In 2024, the current Australian government commissioned an 'independent' report and assessment into the deaths of the aid workers. The report reached the conclusion that the deaths were caused by "serious failures to follow procedures, mistaken identification and errors in decision-making" on BOTH sides.

In particular the report found that the aid organisation was using armed guards which was never flagged with the IDF and which was against the agreement reached between them and the IDF. The IDF believed the guards were Hamas and nothing was done to disabuse them of that view. Additionally the aid convoy deviated from agreed routes and travelled at times that hadn't been agreed to or even flagged to the IDF.

The result was the finding that the incident was characterised "as a grave mistake involving serious procedural failures on both sides and a breakdown in situational awareness, and found it was not knowingly or deliberately directed at the aid workers." These findings support the Israeli position that the drone strike "involved no criminal intention or misconduct, so no criminal investigation or charges are warranted."

But now that the politics have changed, the government is ignoring its own findings and virtue-signalling to its anti-Israel constituency. Conducting international diplomacy in the service of local politics is never good look nor in the national interest.

Gaza is/was a war zone. Mistakes happen in war zones. The notion that these aid workers could operate in a highly charged war zone with the expectation of being perfectly safe was/is flawed.

The IDF made mistakes. Central Kitchens made mistakes. But only one side is being critiqued. I wonder why?

Hi mhaze
Your argument merely proves that all of Gaza is a concentration camp under constant military bombardment.

Also its hard for an Australian PM to resist both Trump and Netanyahu, when people like yourself wish to keep Australia shielded beneath a fictional U.S. defensive military skirt.

So AC, you obvious missed or didn't understand the conclusions reached by an independent Australian-initiated enquiry. Some old AC - the facts merely get in the way of what you want to be true.

"Gaza is a concentration camp under constant military bombardment".

No, its a war zone and will remain that until Hamas surrenders its arms.

Hi Trumpster,

I expect nothing less from YOU, being an Un-Australian sycophantic suck-up and apologists for the murderous Zionist regime.

http://www.facebook.com/reel/2268654723912291

BTW, How would the Australian government conduct an investigation into this, when the Zionists refuse to cooperate and disclose any relevant information. The IDF is guilty of murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza, and have continually covered up their war crimes with a "nothing to see here" attitude!

"How would the Australian government conduct an investigation into this,"

Attaboy Paul. Same old same old.

An independent inquiry set up by your Albo government reaches the wrong conclusions based on the facts and so you just pretend it doesn't exist. There were no claims that the IDF was hiding anything at the time. Indeed as I recall the families if the deceased welcomed the reports findings.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-Israel hysteria.

In the same vein.... "A Palestinian woman in Gaza admits everyone in Gaza is Hamas: “In Gaza, every house has Hamas. Are you going to kill us all?!” http://x.com/VividProwess/status/2090468904044798141

Tell me again about all those innocent Gazans.

some are outraged by muslims killing Christians by the thousands in Nigeria, some are outraged by idf killing ' innocents', some are outraged by killing unborn babies up to death, some are outraged by our own Governments killing thousands by forced clot shots. Real pity that every life is not valued. Bible proves right again. The heart of man is beyond wicked. Thank God for Jesus Christ.

"Thank God for Jesus Christ."

I thought they were the same entity....Holy Trinity

mhaze

"Thank God for Jesus Christ."

I thought they were the same entity....Holy Trinity

Yes, God becoming Man. Certainly an offense to the Jew and Muslim.

Hi mhaze,
Are you saying 'Any Palestinian who doesn't support being exterminated is Hamas'?

'Indeed as I recall the families of the deceased welcomed the reports findings.'

Or alternatively, are you saying 'The majority of the people of Gaza support the Israelis, they declare "We love what the Israeli's are doing to us, we welcome them blowing our friends, parents and kids up. we can't understand why all the people in the world don't wish to embrace this exciting lifestyle".'

But then...
If America WAS bombing Australia, mhaze WOULD be the type that says:
"Thank you Donald Trump. I love you. Do you want to meet up later for drinks and stuff?"

>>"In Gaza, every house has Hamas. Are you going to kill us all?!"<<

"Tell me again about all those innocent Gazans."

Say what captain brainfart?
Did you just stand in poop again by chance?
Appears so.

So following on from your statement, what's your official position and proposed solution here?
- kill the women, kids and elderly, kill them all, they're all Hamas?

Is that what you just implied with the previous comment?
What do you mean exactly?
Are you trying to justify some kind of 'final solution'?
It really kinda sounded like you did....

Maybe they can build mobile incinerator ovens in order to resolve this troubling issue of 'rejection of total extermination'?
Maybe you'll box it up and sell it to the dumb plebs as 'dedication to the principles of humanitarianism, and to peace' as well?

Hi Trumpster,

"An independent inquiry", YOU must be joking! The Zionists refused to cooperate with the Mark Binskin inquiry, they refused to provide the incriminating audio track for the 90 minutes of unedited drone footage. YOU lied about Binskin's finding, which was released in August 2024, his report concluded that the attack resulted from serious procedural failures and mistaken identity by the Israel Defence Forces. There was no mention of errors in "decision-making" on BOTH sides. Only an apologist like YOU would accept the Zionist whitewash, which has been evident time and again since the Gaza genocide begun.

"A Palestinian woman in Gaza admits everyone in Gaza is Hamas" A fool from Alabama thinks the Zionists are not war criminals.

Israel's ambassador to 'check' possibility of paying reparations to Zomi Frankcom's family
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-21/israel-reparations-zomi-frankcom-gaza-idf-strike-death/107065204

Hi Paul,

Apparently the independent investigator hired by Penny Wong did not recommend charges.

https://youtu.be/C22Q0D3OG3Y?si=GZ580h7LYlogTET2

The story also shows a very different response to an Australian murdered on October 7.

Have you discussed Galit Carbone? Why be so enraged by one murder in the conflict and ignore another?

Hi Fester,

I am disgusted by all the senseless murders in the world, not only that of Zomi Frankcom and six of her colleagues in Gaza.

"Apparently the independent investigator hired by Penny Wong did not recommend charges." He was refused access to vital evidence that the Zionists had in their possession. The Zionists did not recognise any "investigation" by Australia. Why do you seek to negate one atrocity by pointing out another, they don't neutralise each other out, they compound the total atrocities committed.

I'm sure if the evidence of the Holocaust had been withheld at the Nuremberg trials, maybe "innocent" Nazi's wouldn't have gone to the gallows.

Fester asks: "Have you discussed Galit Carbone? "

We did way back in 2023. As I recall, people like Paul and AC couldn't change the subject quickly enough. You see, Fester, while all deaths are sad (according to Paul) only those involving the IDF are worth discussing and even if the evidence shows the IDF weren't to blame, they were....ahem...to blame.

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AC does a series of "Are you saying" questions where he shows either (1) his complete inability to understand the written word or (2) his desire to twist the facts in the cause of blaming the evil Joo.

"Are you saying 'Any Palestinian who doesn't support being exterminated is Hamas'?"

NO. and NO. I was showing a Gazan telling us the truth that every household in Gaza contains Hamas supporters. Just because you don't want that to be true doesn't make it false.

"are you saying 'The majority of the people of Gaza support the Israelis, "

NO and NO. I was talking about the family of the Zomi Frankcom. Do try to keep up.

"If America WAS bombing Australia"

Its pretty funny (and sad) that Paul and AC now regularly fantasise about Australia being bombed.

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Paul declares that there must be more evidence to support his fantasies. Australia conducts an inquiry. Australia accepts the inquiry. The family of the victims accept the inquiry. Then suddenly Paul decides that the inquiry wasn't hard enough on the evil Joo and there must be more evidence because he just wants there to be more evidence.

Hi Trumpster,

"there must be more evidence because he just wants there to be more evidence"
There was more evidence, incriminating audio evidence for the 90 minutes of unedited drone footage, which the Zionist refused to give to the Australian inquiry.

"As I (Trumpster) recall, people like Paul and AC couldn't change the subject quickly enough." Another lie from YOU.

"Australia accepts the inquiry. The family of the victims accept the inquiry."

Are YOU referring to the whitewash Zionist inquiry? The only one accepting that rubbish is the Zionist apologists, YOU!

BTW, you probably believe Martin Bryant would have been cleared of wrong doing, only if they hadn't mentioned Port Arthur at his trial.

"incriminating audio evidence for the 90 minutes of unedited drone footage"

How do you know its incriminating? Have you heard it? No? Oh I get it....you just want it to be incriminating and in Paul-land wanting it to be true is the same as it being true. The audio wasn't released because it contain military information that would have been useful to the enemy.

"Are YOU referring to the whitewash Zionist inquiry?"

No I'm referring to the Australian inquiry that you are trying so very hard to pretend doesn't exist. The inquiry that the Australian government accepted. The inquiry that the Frankcom family accepted. The inquiry that the antisemites are trying so very hard to ignore.

"BTW, you probably believe Martin Bryant would have been cleared of wrong doing,"

Yet more evidence, if more evidence were required, that Paul's reversion to his childhood is continuing apace.

I‘m sure what “Australian outrage” means. A country can't be outraged, and most of the Australian population wouldn't be aware of or care what Israel does or doesn't do. It's just the usual leftist antisemites jumping on the bandwagon, siding with Islamists. And, of course, a few posters who want to argue about the same things with the same people.

I'm interested in my own country, and Australian children being used by the Communist teachers unions and Socialist Alternative to protest in school hours against people and parties they know nothing about.

Not to mention the Chinese foreign students’ infiltration of these silly demonstrations, and not being able to answer why they use Australia freedoms, but can't answer why they don't protest in their own country. They are supposed to be here to study; but they are clearly Chinese Communist agents, working for Beijing to meddle in Australian politics - no matter the issue - as part of the ongoing chipping away of Australia by Beijing.

Israel used targeted assassinations against journalists and their families.
Israel uses America to sanction the ICC prosecutors.
Israel labels Defense of Children International Palestine a terrorist organisation for exposing the rape and torture of children.

And somehow mhaze wants us to believe in the integrity of Israel investigating itself?

Ridiculous.

It's just the usual 'leftist antisemites'

I just want to say that I don't self identify as either of those things.

If I say existing Australians should have a say over who comes here and how many, then I'm a ribid right just for holding 1 simple sensible position.
Then if I say I don't support what Israel does to the Palestinians, and that for me it's an issue of human than suddenly I'm a loony left for holding 1 simple sensible position.

I'd just like to share what I think about all this:
Being labelled a lefty by rightists or being labelled a righty by leftists for 1 simple sensible position on either side.

I'm not sure how people can think in such limited terms.
I think some people are trapped in a Conservative V's Progressive mindset and are fundamentally incapable of thinking beyond those terms.

Are you manufactured morons;
trained monkeys?

Conservative for the sake of being conservative
And progressive for the sake of being progressive
*Note: I don't want to be a part of either of your stupid gangs.

As for anti-semite, it's just the same stupid thinking.
You have to label me 'something', because I won't stay quiet as expected.
Actually criticising me because I won't act like the trained monkeys you all are.

And that whole anti-Semite thing is as stupid as Jews calling other Jews self hating Jews.
It's a retarded hive mind thinking that criticises anyone that doesn't buy into it or go along with it, including their own.

This crap was born from a people at much at war with themselves and their own 'identity' as much as they are at war with everyone else.
This is their endless battle, it's certainly not mine.

Re journalists killed:

"Roughly 60% (around 157 of 266 examined cases of journalists killed) were members of or clearly affiliated with terrorist organizations.
Of these, about 104 were linked to Hamas (including at least 47 identified as members or military operatives) and 45 to Palestinian Islamic Jihad (including at least 18 confirmed operatives). Smaller numbers were tied to groups like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Fatah’s military wing, or others."

60%.

But that won't bother you or get you to rethink your opinion. Nothing will. But the fact is that most of the people you relied on to tell you what to think were in fact propagandists for Hamas etc. Not exactly the path to the truth. Although we all know your not looking for the truth. Just looking for ways to attack the evil Joos.

"And somehow mhaze wants us to believe in the integrity of Israel investigating itself?"

We were talking about the AUSTRALIAN investigation. Why is this so hard for you to follow?

Hi Trumpster,

Just as YOU claim I wouldn't know if the evidence was incriminating, HOW DO YOU KNOW "the audio wasn't released because it contain military information that would have been useful to the enemy" Did the Zionist military tell YOU that? No, YOU made it up!

If YOU are going to quote me, then do so, don't cut it to suit your purpose. I said;

"BTW, you probably believe Martin Bryant would have been cleared of wrong doing, only if they hadn't mentioned Port Arthur at his trial". Get it right!

"The inquiry that the Frankcom family accepted." What the Frankcom family accept is justice for Zomi, not the cover up, whitewash, nothing to see here BS from the Zionists!

"Roughly 60% (around 157 of 266 examined cases of journalists killed) were members of or clearly affiliated with terrorist organizations.
Of these, about 104 were linked to Hamas (including at least 47 identified as members or military operatives) and 45 to Palestinian Islamic Jihad (including at least 18 confirmed operatives). Smaller numbers were tied to groups like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Fatah’s military wing, or others."

Are you pedaling more lies from the same people who lie about everything mhaze?

Identified by whom?
let me guess, Israel again?
The same people who brought 'shooting children deliberately' into the mainsteam?

- Identified by using Photoshop and other AI image manipulation tools to place innocent Palestinians in Hamas uniforms after the fact to present it as evidence, and trick gullible westerners who don't know any better and to justify a sick murderous regimes actions, that is already publicly hellbent on extermination or eradication?

F- off you stupid gullible idiot.
You might've come down in the last shower but I didn't.

Hi Again Trumpster,

Your last post "Re journalists killed:" Is rubbish that doesn't hold water, as YOU regurgitate BS put out by the Zionists. What counts is independent unbiased truth, and that's not what we are getting from a load of Zionist propaganda about the Palestinians, and others killed by the murderous Zionist Mercenary Army in Gaza. What is an undeniable truth, and is proven beyond doubt by the 75,000 Palestinian dead at the hands of the Zionist mercenaries, 21,000 of them children, is the genocide and mass murder that is taking place in Gaza.

BTW, Did YOU also accept the Nazi evidence as to why they had to exterminate 6 million Jews? It was all in Hitler's book Mein Kampf, which I am sure YOU have read countless times!

P/S It's good that our brothers and sisters in the Australian Jewish community have called for justice for Zomi Frankcom

JEWISH COUNCIL OF AUSTRALIA (Media Release 20th August 2026)

"The Israeli Government’s decision not to pursue criminal charges over the killing of Australian aid worker Zomi Frankcom is a grave injustice and strengthens the case for Australia to impose country-level sanctions and expel its ambassador in response."

http://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/2026/08/complete-injustice-for-zomi-hind-and-countless-other-victims-jewish-council-says-australia-must-expel-israeli-ambassador

"Did the Zionist military tell YOU that? No, YOU made it up!"

No. Not the Zionist military. It was the IDF.
Poor old Paul. He so wants to believe its all a big conspiracy between the IDF and the family of the victim and the original Australian inquiry that he just makes up fantasy-facts to convince himself (but only himself) that he's not completely racist on this.

"If YOU are going to quote me, then do so, don't cut it to suit your purpose. I said;"

Oh so when you make childish non-sequitur assertions and I'm forced to point out that they are childish non-sequitur assertions, you want me to repeat these childish non-sequitur assertions in full? Nup.

"It was all in Hitler's book Mein Kampf, which I am sure YOU have read countless times!"

Not that facts matter in the slightest to our Paul, but Mein Kampf doesn't talk about exterminating the Jews at all. More evidence of Paul's reversion to childhood.

Racist? That's all you can come up with?
What a demented fool grasping at straws.

I suppose you actually believe that 'Israel's the most moral army in the world' too?
Trump tried to bribe the IRGC with billions last week, but he found out Iran's not Venezuela.

An Iranian politician has introduced a bill to leave the NPT.
Which means that thanks to Trump and Israeli actions, the Iranians are likely going to build the bomb.
And if the new Muslim NATO tries to enforce Trumps economic war, Iran will attack them too.

Meanwhile, Trumps still telling lies about... well just about everything, trying to manipulate the oil price and bond market and make money via insider trading on the side.

The United States is panicking, China's made a law that Chinese companies must disregard Trumps economic threats or face fines by their own government.

Looks like the Israel / Turkey thing is starting to heat up too.
Meanwhile, Ukraine's getting smashed, no more PAC-3 left to stop Iskanders.

Russia and China have come to the conclusion that the U.S. cannot be reasoned with and is an existential threat to them.
But America is all bark, and no bite, no weapons left.

All they can do is make economic threats that will result in the end of U.S. empire more quickly.

Hi Trumpster,

YOU naive little fool.

For someone who has read Hitlers bible Mein Kampf as many times as a devout Christian has read the Bible, for YOU to say; "Mein Kampf doesn't talk about exterminating the Jews at all", is naive. What Hitler did say was German society needed to rid itself of Jews. I would assume as someone who supports mass extermination as in Gaza, as YOU continually justify, YOU would had, had YOU been around at the time, been unfazed by the mass extermination of the Jews.

Where is your evidence that the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF) had to withhold the 90 minute audio, as it would be "useful to the enemy" A reasonable person such as myself would conclude that it was withheld because it was incriminating.

NO RESPONSE FROM YOU, on the media release by the JEWISH COUNCIL OF AUSTRALIA. Too embarrassing for your argument.

Speaking on behalf of the family, Zomi Frankcom's brother Mal said the decision by the IDF to announce the outcome of their "investigation" on World Humanitarian Day in particular was "an insult to my sister's memory". He went on to say, the family continues with its demand for a fully independent judicial assessment of the incident. The Frankcom family has never supported the whitewash put out by the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF).

mhaze supports America who now kidnaps and assassinates the leaders of foreign governments and supports the Epstein class.

"The Frankcom family has never supported the whitewash put out by the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF)."

The inquiry I've constantly referred to (and unlike Paul and AC, I don't go changing my position with each post trying to find something ANYTHING they can hang their hat on) is the Australian inquiry. This seems to be too hard for the likes of Paul and AC to understand or is it that, since they don't like the answers, it must've been done by the evil Joos. Australian inquiry comes to the 'wrong' conclusion - blame the Jews.

As we know, when an Australian was killed by the Gazans, Paul et al couldn't change the subject fast enough. They still don't want to acknowledge it. But in their antisemitic mania, anything to get at the evil Joo is fair game

mhaze:
How were the Israeli's supposed to know that Zomi Frankcom was there?
If they'd known in advance then it would've been the one building in Gaza they didn't flatten.

Hi Trumpster,

The independent Australian enquiry could not come to a reasonable conclusion by any stretch, due to the withholding of crucial evidence, aka, 90 minutes of audio recordings prior to the murder of the innocent aid workers by the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF). The Zionist Mercenary Army conducted their own "enquiry" into the murders, and came up with a whitewash, nothing to see here nonsense, which of course is acceptable to our Zionist sycophant, Trumpster.

Still nothing to say about the media release by The JEWISH COUNCIL OF AUSTRALIA. Good to see our Jewish brothers and sisters in Australia, calling a spade a spade, or should I say a murder a murder.

"The Zionist Mercenary Army conducted their own "enquiry" into the murders, and came up with a whitewash,"

The Zionist Mercenary Army conducted their own "enquiry" into the murders, and came up with the same result as the Australian enquiry.

There you go....fixed it for you. You're welcome.

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Mercenary? Members of every army on the planet get paid. But only the evil Joos are mercenary? But don't dare say he's antisemitic!!

This Israeli War crimes thing is getting tiresome, keep it out of Australia. War crimes they say ? Well, what about peace time crimes ? Get real Dimwits ! So far as I can perceive from a distance all attacks by Israel thus far have been retaliatory whereas the Palestinian movement's actions have always preceeded Israeli aggression ! Stop Palestinian aggression & Israel's will stop !

The Zionist Mercenary Army conducted their own "enquiry" into the murders, and came up with the same result as the Australian enquiry.

If the thinking here is that 'Hamas are terrorists and Israel has 'the right' to bomb them at will regardless of the consequences' indefinitely, forever until they're all gone, or conduct collective punishment on all Palestinians, then no I don't support whatever conclusion either side came to.

If you promote the idea that the existing occupants don't matter or even exist at all:

'A land without a people for a people without a land'

And if you're starting from a position of wanting to ethnically cleanse the entire region to establish a 'Jewish state',

Nakba

Then everything that comes after that was wilful and deliberate.

Hi Paul,

"The independent Australian enquiry could not come to a reasonable conclusion by any stretch, due to the withholding of crucial evidence, aka, 90 minutes of audio recordings prior to the murder of the innocent aid workers by the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF)."

Okay, then why did Binskin report "it is my assessment that the IDF strike on the WCK aid workers was not knowingly or deliberately directed against the WCK”.". If it were as you claim, wouldn't Binskin have reported that he couldn't reach a conclusion due to a conspiracy of Zionists to hide evidence from him?

Hi Fester,

Binskin did a report for the Australian government into the murder of Zomi Frankcom and her colleagues from the World Central Kitchen charity, by the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF). Binskin was not given access to all the information, including vital evidence, the 90 minutes of audio recordings prior to the attack.

Hi Trumpster,

Members of every army on the planet get paid. But only the evil Joos are mercenary? No, they are all mercenaries, in my opinion, including those in the Australian army.

BTW, YOUR Daffy Donald was never a mercenary, he avoided any possibility of having his head blown off, sends other to have their heads blown off instead.

Hi AC,

Looks like the Zionist with their expansionist aim of a Pan-Zionists state in the Middle East are now going after the country of Turkiye, by way of Syria.

Armchair critic,
Don't you think 1400 years is more than enough time to wake up & stop killing only to end up being killed ? Now you're dragging this $hit here & stirring the peace here too ! There more than enough idiots born & raised here without the need to import more !

Hi Paul,

Yes, you said that Binskin didn't have all the information necessary to make a determination, so why did he do just that? If I didn't have the necessary information to determine something I'd say as much. I wouldn't report that there was no evidence of the group being deliberately targeted.

At the heart on it all is hatred, but on the conspiracy side I'm inclined towards seeing antisemitism and anti western sentiment as drivers.

https://www.news24.com.au/world/global-affairs/we-were-intensively-indoctrinated-syrianborn-activist-reveals-how-she-was-taught-to-hate-jews/video/2f0a13963d870489aa912d869f572625

On and on it goes.

I cannot understand why anonymous posters, who have no power as well as no identity, would bother themselves with foreign countries when all they have is a vote in their own country.

I do understand why the Australian government, which ignores these useful idiots, screeches ‘look over there’ to the idiots to take their minds off the fact that they are rooting Australia to death.

And, the idiots fall for it.

While the distractions are being sucked up by the idiots, the government is, among other things, using the idiots’ money “to provide funding to non-government organisations that engage in lobbying back to government”. $2.2 billions of their money from 2021 to 2025.

The NGO activists being bankrolled with other people's money are:
Diversity and multicultural advocacy.
Nanny state and public health advocacy.
Lawfare and welfare state advocacy.
Indigenous co-governance advocacy.
Green advocacy.

The report, 30 pages long, details the sums of taxpayer money doled out in the process of “Stacking the Deck: How Government (Australian) Lobbies Itself and Funds the Distortion of Democracy”.

https://ipa.org.au/read/stacking-the-deck-how-government-lobbies-itself-and-funds-the-distortion-of-democracy

The authors of the report write that democracy is characterised “first and foremost” by a commitment to free and fair debate. But, in reality, Australia has an “inconsistent” attitude to free speech and fair debate. What would Australians say about the use of their money if they knew of this report?

There is an “unhealthy divergence” between mainstream Australians and their political representatives.

Most politicians do not share the lived experience of the people they are supposed to represent; and the politicians receive misleading information about public debates from the NGOs they are spending our money on - all with a left-wing bent.

Hi Fester,

I suppose every barbaric act can be justified by the perpetrator(s). I'm sure if they had been asked the Nazi's would have said they had good reason to exterminate 6 million people. Just as the Hamas murderers could, in their minds, justify the atrocity of murdering more than 1200 innocent Israelis, or the Zionist murdering 75,000 Palestinians. It all can be justified by someone, somewhere, but that wont stop the killings, or make the world a better place, now will it?

Hi ttbn,

Are YOU not the one who continually rants that others should stick to the topic, telling them to start their own topic if they don't like it. BUT that doesn't seem to apply to YOU. What's the guff you posted about "non-government organisations" got to do with Australian Outrage, Israeli War Crime. Hypocrite!

It all can be justified by someone, somewhere, but that wont stop the killings, or make the world a better place, now will it?
Paul1405,
Yes and, you're one of those hypocrites perpetuating that dreadful mentality !

Hi Indy,

Just because I don't generally agree with YOU, doesn't mean I am in favour of war, and the killing that result from that. I condemn all the atrocities committed by violent people against the innocent. YOU and others like YOU see justification for war, I don't. BTW , How do YOU see the deaths of 75,000 people in Gaza, including 21,000 children? Can YOU justify that as unfortunate, but necessary, I'm sure YOU can.

Paul1405,
Can you provide just one incident where Israel attacked first & Palestine retaliated ? Also. just one speech by an Iman that doesn't call for total domination & actually denounces such a takeover ?

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1782060243246499
Paul1405,
You told us you don't watch Facebook so I'm submitting this link for those wh do !

Hi Indy,

No, I told YOU, I don't bother watching your crap Facebook 15 second reels. However, I wasted my time and looked at that one. Yep. I was right, I don't want to waste my time looking at your crap Facebook 15 second reels. Evidence, pull the other leg. p/s is that YOU farting in the background?

"Gazans Are Dying of Starvation," The New York Times, July 24, 2025.

"Mass starvation stalks Gaza as deaths from hunger rise," The Washington Post, July 24, 2025.

"More than 100 NGOs warn Israel’s forced ‘mass starvation’ stalks all Gaza," Al Jazeera, July 23, 2025.

"Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation," CNN, March 6, 2024.

"Through June 2026, at least 132,000 children under five are expected to suffer from acute malnutrition—double the IPC estimates from May 2025. This includes over 41,000 severe cases of children at heightened risk of death. Nearly 55,500 malnourished pregnant and breastfeeding women will require urgent nutrition response." The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC)

They're the claims or what I'd call the propaganda.

Now for the facts....

""At the rate of 0.5 percent, Gaza has one of the lowest rates of acute child malnutrition in the region." UNICEF

""The UNICEF-led team’s presentation also revealed that Gaza now faces a new challenge: obesity and excess weight, which affect a combined 4 percent of children under the age of 5."

"The researchers also concluded that about 12 percent of children in Gaza had stunting, or impaired growth and development that is the result of poor nutrition," which ... is "less than half of the region’s 26 percent stunting rate."

So despite the propaganda that the usual anxiously gullible in the west ALWAYS fall for, the great famine scare turned out to be 100% propaganda and 0% fact.

So the kiddies in Gaza are actually doing OK compared to their counterparts in other parts of the Levantine. Still I don't think mere facts will be enough to stop people like Paul from using the kiddies as an excuse to vent his anti-Jewish rants.

But one thing is clear. For the children of the Levantine there's only one thing worse than being 'genocided' by the evil Joos and that's not being 'genocided' by the evil Joos. Of course 'genocide' is just another of those accusations leveled at Israel which is based on 100% propaganda and 0% fact.

Yep. I was right,
Paul1405,
No, you aren't. You're avoiding inconvenient views & facts that expose the dreadful mentality you support & are part of as you just so clearly displayed ! You're a natural hypocrite unlike many of your ilk who are just brainwashed.

Hi Trumpster,

The 21,000 children murdered by the Zionist Mercenary Army, would have no problem with malnutrition.

"During the Holocaust, the Nazis used the Theresienstadt (Terezín) ghetto as a tool of propaganda and deception. In 1944, the Nazis allowed members of an international Red Cross delegation to visit the ghetto. During the visit, they staged an elaborate hoax to trick the delegation and to try to hide the ongoing mass murder of Europe’s Jews." Gee, you would have been the perfect candidate to be on that Red Cross delegation, the Nazi's would have loved you. Nothing like a Useful Idiot such as yourself, who falls for every bit of Zionist propaganda. Maybe the Zionist Nazi's could employ you to run the Child Obesity Program in Gaza.

UN News. Among tent cities pitched on the rubble of destroyed homes in Gaza, children are, by one measure, finally getting enough to eat. By another, however, many of them may never fully recover, according to a new study by the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) released on Monday 24th August.

Yes Paul, that's what I said. The anxiously gullible will always fall for the propaganda.

Its pretty funny. UNICEF says that there's no famine. Paul asserts they've been duped because someone 80 years ago was duped....or something....based on his fervent hope that there is a famine he can blame on the evil Joo. Then he refers to a UNICEF report as though its gospel.

They distribute food into Gaza based on minimal calories, it wouldn't matter if the whole world ran a fundraiser that allowed every Palestinian to eat like kings for eternity, Israel would still only allow them enough to barely survive.

Google? 'Israel distributes food in Gaza based on minimum calories'

AI Overview
Israeli authorities calculated a baseline of 2,279 calories per person per day as a minimum requirement to prevent severe malnutrition in Gaza.

The Calorie Calculation

The Threshold: Israel's military agency COGAT determined that an average of 2,279 calories per person daily is needed to keep the population from starving. This figure traces back to calculations originally revealed in older government documents and referenced during recent conflicts.

The Debate: Humanitarian organizations and reports, such as those covered by The Guardian, state that the actual food allowed to enter Gaza frequently fell short of these minimum daily targets.

Conflicting Data: Other studies backed by official data argue that the nutritional value of delivered truck shipments met or exceeded standard international guidelines during specific months, creating a sharp dispute over how much food actually reaches civilians.

Why don't you try to minimise everything Israel does at every opportunity?
- par for the course from you -

You can take this position mhaze but just don't ever try to claim a moral position ever again, because you're full of it.

Hi Paul,

Descriptions about how people use Nazi rhetoric and symbolism to attack Israel and Jewish people sounds just like you. Here are some examples:

https://www.ajc.org/news/five-ways-colombias-president-is-spreading-antisemitism-and-destroying-his-nations-ties-with

https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/nazism-in-palestinian-society-and-the-use-of-nazi-symbols/

"'Israel distributes food in Gaza based on minimum calories'"

And yet, according to UNICEF, Gaza's children have "one of the lowest rates of acute child malnutrition in the region" and one of highest rates of childhood obesity in the region. Additionally, they have stunting, or impaired growth and development levels that is the result of poor nutrition at half the rates of other kids in the region.

But these are mere facts, AC, and we all know that your hatred of all things Jewish trumps mere facts.

no one ever asks the questions why none of the other Islamic nations ever want to take the Palestinians as refugees. Hmmm!

runner,
No need, they're already Islamic !

"The researchers also concluded that about 12 percent of children in Gaza had stunting, or impaired growth and development that is the result of poor nutrition," which ... is "less than half of the region’s 26 percent stunting rate."

About the same as Venezuela.
No they weren't starving and eating dogs and cats

And how many of those nations 'in the region' were targets of U.S. sanctions and regime change mhaze..

You don't get to support undermining all these countries for decades then compare the situation in Gaza to the other coutries you've been supporting sanctions and overthrows on.

It's as seriously screwed up as putting sanctions on this countries and then having your NED pro democracy candidate blame the leaders so that the West can install their own puppets leaders when the existing ones fail, by the Wests hand.
America and Israel caused all of this M/E bs.

America's empire is headed towards the dustbin of history.
Slowly at first then quickly, well the end is speeding up.
Your mate Trump is the worst grifter of them all.
He's making money on the eventual collapse.

Hi Fester,

As the saying goes; "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck'. In the case of the Zionists, if they act like Nazi's then they are probably Nazi's. Of course they don't want to be compared to German Nazi's, it has bad connotations, I can see why they wouldn't want to be seen as the murderous genocidal maniacs they are, its bad for business.

What do you have to say about the 21,000 dead children in Gaza, forget the other 54,000 murdered by the Zionist Mercenary Army, just the children? Were they simply collateral damage, maybe you think they were armed terrorist fighters, or maybe it was someone else's fault. You must have some opinion. OR maybe like Trumpster, you think they were Muslims, so they deserved it.

When Australians eventually catch up with the Irish & some Europeans , will Paul1405 et al call them Zionists & Nazis too for defending this Nation ?

"Antisemitic vandals target Dolly Parton's Wikipedia page just hours after her death"

Paul, have you been a naughty boy again?

"OR maybe like Trumpster, you think they were Muslims, so they deserved it."

I used to think Paul was just trolling on this. But now I see that the issues here are just beyond his understanding. The 21000 kids died because Hamas launched a war against Israel and then tried to hide behind the kids to avoid the consequences of their war. Paul, being the antisemite that he is, thinks Israel doesn't have the right to try to eliminate the Hamas jihadists who seek to kill Jews at every opportunity.

(BTW the 21000 figure is made up and unverified. When I provide verified figures showing that Israel is feeding the Gazan kids in ways that make them better off than their neighbours, Paul asserts, without the slightest evidence, that the number is fabricated. Why? Because he'd prefer to think it wasn't true. But when he sees a number he'd like to think is true, he accepts it without the slightest hint of embarrassment.)

Hi Trumpster,

Oh dear o' me, YOU have been completely brainwashed by Daffy Donald, now YOU have been completely brain washed by the Zionist Nazi's, where will it end. How much brain washing can that small brain of yours (comparable to the brain of a gnat!) take. Me thinks no more.

"The 21000 kids died because Hamas launched a war" NOW, we should all agree that's a very good reason to murder tens of thousands of children. Of course everything was terrific in Gaza until Hamas launched a war October 7th 2023, it not being another bloody murderous incident in a war that has been going on since 1948, with the first Arab-Israeli War. BUT Trumpster YOU said yourself there are no dead Palestinian children YOU have the evidence from the murderers themselves, the Zionist Nazi's. Could a redneck from Alabama be so delusional? It seems so!

Paul1405 is a clear example why Australia needs to outlaw that dreadful "Religion" asap !

"BUT Trumpster YOU said yourself there are no dead Palestinian children'

False....





and false.

"The 21000 kids died because Hamas launched a war against Israel and then tried to hide behind the kids to avoid the consequences of their war."

mhaze: 'Hamas killed them, it had absolutely nothing to do with Israel whatsoever. OCTOBER 7!'

pfffttttt

No they were killed in war between Israel and Hamas. But most of them were killed because Hamas sought to use them a human shields. If Hamas had been brave enough to confront Israel directly rather than hide behind women and children, far fewer would have died.

BTW, at least 2000 kids have been 'murdered' by the 'Mercenary' Army of Russia and a further 20000+ have been kidnapped by Russia . Care to express your outrage that Russia would be so immoral.

Hi Again Trumpster,

YOU said this; "21000 kids died because Hamas launched a war against Israel and then tried to hide behind the kids to avoid the consequences of their war." YOU did claim the figure was a lie, so how many children have died? "BUT Trumpster YOU said yourself there are no dead Palestinian children" If that's incorrect, then I repeat, how many children have died in Gaza, and whose hand was on the trigger that caused those children die.

So in YOUR world, if a bank robber took 30 customers and staff hostage in a bank, then the cops would be perfectly entitled to open fire, killing all 30 hostages, just to get at the robber.

Maybe with your perverted logic, YOU will agree that the Nazi's were entitled to exterminate 6 million Jews, because there were Jews who were against the Third Reich and a danger to the German people. Since the dangerous Jews were hiding among the non-dangerous Jews, and couldn't be identified, it was appropriate to exterminate the lot to save the German people from those dangerous Jews. Is that something YOU agree with?

"YOU did claim the figure was a lie"

No I said it was unverified. Your reading comprehension is sh!thouse.

""BUT Trumpster YOU said yourself there are no dead Palestinian children""
Now THAT's what a lie looks like. See the difference?

"So in YOUR world, if a bank robber took 30 customers and staff hostage in a bank, then the cops would be perfectly entitled to open fire, killing all 30 hostages, just to get at the robber."

Only if the bank robber had previously killed over 1000 innocents and promised to do so again and that was the only way to stop him. Oh and if the most of the hostages supported the aims of the bank robber.

"YOU will agree that the Nazi's were entitled to exterminate 6 million Jews"

You seem very fixated on Nazis these days. Is your Jew-hatred turning your head?

Hi Trumpster,

There you go again bending the truth about what YOU said.
Trumpster quote; "(BTW the 21000 figure is MADE UP and unverified)". When something is "MADE UP" as in this context, its a LIE, and therefore can't be verified.. So my comprehension is correct, YOU failed to correctly quote yourself. Only to wriggle out of what YOU said.

YOU do like to make assumptions to support your argument. From your last post I gather YOU believe the 21,000 murdered children were in some way responsible for the murder of 1200 Israelis, Oct 7th 2023. AND somehow YOU know the 21,000 murdered children supported Hamas. YOU are full of it, YOU know nothing. The only "evidence" YOU have is the rubbish propaganda put out by the Zionist Nazi government, and the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF).

From yours posts, I believe the Fuhrer is your "Spiritual Godfather", so YOU have a close connection. YOU far right extremist hate anyone mentioning Nazi's, it gets up your nose, they are such an embarrassment for YOU.

"From your last post I gather YOU believe the 21,000 murdered children were in some way responsible for the murder of 1200 Israelis"

Pretty funny Paul. Your bank robber analogy fell apart and you go full-on fabrication.

"I believe the Fuhrer is your "Spiritual Godfather","

False...



and false. Just more flinging of the BS to try to hide the paucity of your thinking.

will Paul1405 et al call them Zionists & Nazis too for defending this Nation ?

Notice how he conveniently avoids this question ?

Hi Trumpster,

Are YOU going to include the words MADE UP, as in a lie, in your quote of yourself. I believe YOU left it out on purpose.

My analogy between (A) police - (B) hostages -and (C) a bank robber, fits well with the (A) Zionist Mercenary Army - (B) Palestinian children and (C) Hamas. BUT to justify the murder of the children, YOU want to make assumptions, the bad guys were hiding behind the children, but that didn't matter, because the children were also bad guys, and your evidence for that is they were Palestinians. AND if they hadn't been in Gaza, the Zionist Mercenary Army, wouldn't have found it necessary to shoot them. GOOD STUFF TRUMPSTER!

BTW Since 21,000 is a made up lie according to YOU, what is the actual number, which YOU can get from the Zionist Mercenary Army.

"I believe the Fuhrer is your "Spiritual Godfather" Yes, given your extremist far right views on genocide and murder of the innocent I believe that is a correct statement. But YOU beg to differ. That's understandable as well, as association with Nazism is an embarrassment to people like YOU.

Made up doesn't equal lie. Ask a 10 year old to explain it to you.

Your bank robber analogy fell apart. You can't salvage it.

"what is the actual number, "

No one knows. But since your number comes from the Hamas health ministry and we've proven more times than can be counted that the health ministry makes things up....well you draw your own conclusions.

""I believe the Fuhrer is your "Spiritual Godfather" "

Just fabricating this stuff is increasingly funny....not to mention childish and a tad pathetic.

"No one knows. But since your number comes from the Hamas health ministry and we've proven more times than can be counted that the health ministry makes things up....well you draw your own conclusions."

Who is we?
Who has counted?
Does google know?

What we do know is that Israel lies deliberately and repeatedly about everything.

Imad Youssif El Samhouri was recently honoured by the UN chief António Guterres, General Assembly President Annalena Baerbock, and Security Council President Leonor Zalabata Torres as one of the wonderful UN workers killed in the line of duty. In this case killed by the evil Israel.

El Samhouri was employed by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) as a teacher and associate principal before becoming principal of UNRWA Rafah Preparatory Boys School. What a guy. How evil is Israel for killing a teacher and humanitarian worker.

One small problem....
Hamas had already flagged him as a field commander in the Al-Qassam Brigades. Its also believed he was involved in 7 October massacres. oops.

"Guterres said that "more U.N. colleagues have been killed in Gaza than in any other conflict or disaster in the history of the United Nations. Some died alongside their families, in their homes, in the places they sought refuge. Others were killed while carrying out their duties in offices, in shelters, and in communities they served. These tragedies weigh heavily on us all and should be remembered by the entire world. Let me be clear. U.N. personnel must never be targeted."

So not only do they hide behind children and burkas, but they hide behind the UN. It was "noted that El Samhouri was "using the cover of the humanitarian zone as a human shield" when he was targeted."

But as we know, its OK for so-called Palestinians to massacres Jewish women and children. Its OK for Hamas soldiers to hide under the cover of the UN. Its OK for the UN to indirectly fund Hamas to allow them to massacre Jewish women and children.

But its not OK for Israel to defend itself

Hi Again Trumpster,

"But as we know, its OK for so-called Palestinians to massacres Jewish women and children. Its OK for Hamas soldiers to hide under the cover of the UN. Its OK for the UN to indirectly fund Hamas to allow them to massacre Jewish women and children."

"But its not OK for Israel to defend itself" Who is saying its OK, no one here, we are just disputing the so called facts YOU peddle. Can't accept propaganda from the Zionist Mercenary Army (IDF) as facts.

Why are YOU ashamed of the far right extreme views YOU hold. I said the Fuhrer was your "Spiritual Godfather", just like the Fuhrer, YOU believe in genocide and mass murder. YOU can't hide the facts, your posts on here proclaim them everyday. Why do YOU far right extremists, try to cover up the fact YOU are far right extremists? Very odd.

"YOU believe in genocide and mass murder. "

The fact that you have to fabricate claims about what I believe shows just how devoid of thought, logic or morality your claims are.

Hi Trumpster,

I didn't fabricate a thing, I based it on your posting history, and your support of the Zionist Mercenary Army's mass murder and genocide in Gaza.

Sad news for YOU, with the passing of The Butcher of Bosnia' Ratko Mladic. Another far right extremist, who engaged in mass genocide and murder of Muslims. Known to have murdered 8,000 innocent men women and children in Srebrenica in 1995 as he engaged in ethnic cleansing. BUT that number came from the UN, and YOU don't believe any thing the "Communist" UN says, just the rantings and raving from the Zionist Nazi's.

'Democracy in Israel' votes for 'Genocide in Gaza'

Armchair critic,
Other way round ! For the past 1400 years & still going. Does the word Caliphate mean anything ?

Hi Indy,

Israelis have a right to self defence, but I believe the Zionist action in Gaza and elsewhere goes beyond self defence and encompasses a plan by the far right of Israeli to create a Pan-Zionist state in the Middle East. The evidence is clear, 75,000 dead Palestinians in Gaza is clearly genocide. The total destruction of Gaza, land confiscation in Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank with the forced displacement of millions of people is genocide, noting short of that.

A few days back I invited our local antisemites to comment on the deaths and forced abduction of children by the Russians in their war on Ukraine.

Silence.

Ask the to condemn the genocide of the Uighurs in China and you get a full-throated defence of the Chinese Communist Party.

Ask them about the deaths of 100s of 1000s in Yemen at the hands of Islamists.

Silence.

Ask them about the deaths of Christians at the hands of Islamists in Ethiopia and Somalia.

Silence.

Ask them about the rise of slavery in Libya, Syria and Chechnya.

Silence.

All they want to talk about is the deaths of Gazans in a war launched by Gazans.

It’s interesting what they attack and don’t attack and often defend. Because it exposes them all as frauds.

Hi Trumpster,

Lying as YOU do, not silence from me as YOU claim, but past condemnation of all crimes against humanity, committed by all. I repeat.

Russia, China, Islamists, Slavery, Hamas, Iran, America, your folk hero The Butcher of Bosnia' Ratko Mladic CONDEMNED!
You have nothing to say about the Ratbag Maddick!

Unlike The Trumpsters who supports murder and genocide by the Zionists Nazi's in Gaza. ALL CONDEMNED!

I bring up Ratko Mladic a person who was responsible for the worse genocide in Europe since your "Spiritual Godfather' 80 years ago.

"Unlike The Trumpsters who supports murder and genocide by the Zionists Nazi's in Gaza. ALL CONDEMNED!"

Yes. When his hypocrisy is made obvious, Paul suddenly condemns everything. And will then get right back to only talking about the evil Joos.

the Zionist action in Gaza and elsewhere goes beyond self defence
Paul1405,
Is it beyond self-defence or has it gone from self-defence to prevention as nothing appears to be working with the Palestinians (the pawns of Islam) regarding peace ! When have the Israelis ever made the first move ? Please tell me because I only know what I see in the News !

Hi Indy,

Post WWII Arabs in Palestine and the wider Arab world widely viewed Jewish immigrants and the Zionist movement as foreign invaders. This led to conflict as the Palestinians with the support of other Arab nations tried unsuccessfully to expunge the Jews from Palestine. Constant war has ensued ever since, the only reasonable possibility today is a two state solution. At one time the Palestinians would not accept a two state solution, now the Israelis wont. The hard right within Israel are now seeking a pan-Zionist state, by annihilating all Palestinian and other Arab occupation.

by annihilating all Palestinian and other Arab occupation.
Paul1405,
Very similar to the Islamists view regarding the whole World except the sane people of the World don't appear to be allowed to object by the overwhelming number of non-thinkers ! I'm not a religious person but I do hope the Bible is right by the 'Meek" inheriting the World ! I hope the fanatics in Islam will go the same way as the stupid of the west !

"Post WWII Arabs in Palestine and the wider Arab world widely viewed Jewish..."

Jews had been in the Levant for centuries. The big influx started in the late 19th century when the Ottomans realised the Jews were far more productive than the Arabs living there and therefore encouraged the migrants. The Arabs liked having the Jews come in because they were willing to pay high prices to buy land the Arabs thought was unproductive. It was only when the Jews made it productive that the Arabs started getting the sh!ts with the arrangement.

"At one time the Palestinians would not accept a two state solution, "

At NO time have they accepted it. Its been offered to them 4 times and each time rejected. Bill Clinton "recounted the failed 2000 Camp David/Clinton Parameters negotiations with Yasser Arafat and Ehud Barak. He described an offer that would have given the Palestinians a state on roughly 96% of the West Bank (plus land swaps from Israel), a capital in East Jerusalem, and other terms. He said the Palestinians rejected it, then added (paraphrased closely from multiple reports and transcripts):
“And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians. They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable.”

They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable.”
maze,
yes and, now Australia's in their sights ! Plenty of indifference demographic is the enabler !

Do the ignorant proponents of multiculturalism actually believe that people avowed to "enter every house & offer the choice of slavery unless converting" to a pre-medieval dictatorship wii actually allow any freedom whatsoever to Caucasians & their descendants ?
Labor seems to think so hence letting so many into the country for productive Australians to keep whilst becoming a subclass in their own country & I shudder to think what their plans are for indigenous Australians !