A Jewish author, Mr Anthony Halas, is considering legal action against a literary editor who has refused to work on his Holocaust-themed book.

The editor has stated publicly she could not "comfortably work with someone who supports Israel's actions" in terms of the ongoing conflict there.

Mr Halas said growing up he never experienced antisemitism, but recently he told the Bondi Royal Commission, hatred of Jews has gotten so bad he might leave Australia altogether.

http://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/the-radio-national-hour/how-antisemitism-has-changed-life-for-this-jewish-australian-/106650424

Mr Halas is now seeking legal advice to explore whether the refusal breaches Australia's protections against discrimination and our anti-discrimination laws.

We have seen many cases over the years where people have tried to push a discrimination line for/against:

1. Bakers not wanting to bake wedding cakes for gay weddings.
2. Gay nightclubs not allowing hetrosexual people into their venues.
3. Transwomen not allowed to participate in women's sports.

These are just some examples.

Are we an inclusive society in Australia or is it O.K to discriminate against people of a Jewish background considering what many Jewish people have been put through over the years?

Don't forget

4. A biological man wanting to be a member of Giggle Group.

5. The death of George Floyd leading to discriminatory policing, recently resulting in the horrific death of Henry Nowak.

What I accept is that we all have our own view of things. Provided that a view is not a harm to others, it should not be legally restricted. The fault I see is that the legal interpretation of what is harmful is far too broad.

Society will always have good people and aholes. Sometimes they are the same people, but I don't see much point in a legal system throwing aholes in prison. Jailing aholes is like weeding out the bad people, which is a defining feature of authoritarian regimes.

Hi NathanJ,

"Are we an inclusive society in Australia or is it O.K to discriminate against people of a Jewish background considering what many Jewish people have been put through over the years?"

It's a complicated question, my response might need some thought.
I've listened to half of the podcast, and wish to firstly respond to:

Anthony Halas says he believes the starting point for discussion should be:
(Q1) 'Do you believe in Israel's right to exist'

I think the question is a trap, and a two-part question.
If I say yes, then it just prompts the next part of the question, which is:

(Q2)'Does Israel have a right to defend itself?'
- And from there Israel attempts to justify all the things I oppose, dressing up ethnic cleansing and land theft as 'defense'.

It complicated.
Someone like me would respond to Q1 with 'Firstly state your borders' and 'How much of that stolen land exactly are you planning to return?' or 'Do Palestinians also have a right to exist?', 'Do they have a right to defend themselves' or not respond to the stupid trap-question at all.

What makes them think Israeli's have a right to a State if Palestinians don't?
What makes them think Israeli's have a right to defend themselves if Palestinians don't?
What make them think Israeli's have some right to peace, dignity, safety or anything else if the Palestinians don't?

They don't have any right to those things.
Israelis have a right to reap what they sow.
To have what they put out into the world returned to them.

Israeli's like to torture Palestinians.
Do the Palestinians have a right to torture Israelis?
Israelis like to murder women and kids.
Do the Palestinians have a right to murder Israeli women and kids?

They don't have any 'right' to even 'claim a right' that does not also exist equally for Palestinians.

Volunteers patrol Lag Ba’omer bonfires to rescue animals from flames
http://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/volunteers-patrol-lag-baomer-bonfires-to-rescue-animals-from-flames-490742

>>For the sixth year in a row, Liani and volunteers around Israel were leading patrols to “stop the horrific phenomenon of burning animals on Lag Ba’omer,” according to her Facebook event page. This year, the group recruited hundreds of people to join the effort, with nearly 900 signed up to observe bonfires and save animals from abuse.<<

Maybe I should just answer the question with another question?
- Israeli's like to throw puppies and kittens into bomfires once a year.
Do the puppies and kittens have a right to exist?

Hi AC,

The discussion isn't about whether an opinion is right or wrong, rather it is about what an opinion entitles you to do. In the case of Henry Nowak, the opinion of the arresting officers led them to dismiss the claims of a dying man, manhandle him and hasten his death, and make his last moments of life horrific. I suspect that the reason the officers have not been charged is because they might use the Nuremberg defence of following orders, thus identifying more culpable people.

Hi Fester,
The case of Henry Nowak is significant due to the fact police assumed Henry was the guilty party and instigator of conflict simply because the perpetrators brother was the one who called the police and said that they were "racially attacked by a white person".

NathanJ gave some examples of discrimination and you added a few more.
Each one:
1/ Matter of conscientious objection.
2/ Non-inclusion in a group (like your giggle group example)
3/ Is a matter of harm, women being hurt by biological men
4/ Non-inclusion in a group
5/ Discrimination is policing (Although Floyd was known to police)
6/ Henry Nowak - Also discrimiation in policing,

- Though it could also be argued that they screwed up believing the person who called police...
I'm not sure how they dismissed a man laying on the ground dying, obviously Henry did not have his phone or was able to call police himself.
Cops messed up because of a seemingly false allegation that framed the confrontation as one Nowak had initiated with a racial attack.

"The discussion isn't about whether an opinion is right or wrong, rather it is about what an opinion entitles you to do."
- I'm not sure I follow you here...

I was responding to the specific Jewish aspect of NathanJ's question involving Anthony Halas, founder and Chair of the Jewish Centre for Law and Justice, which regarding the editing of his Holocaust related book, seems to be a matter of conscientious objection.

It would be similar to a web designer saying to Anthony Halas 'I will not build your website or be associated with you or the promotion of your book'
- And I think there are double standards here when recently Jews have been attacking Pro-Palestinian writers and Writers festivals.

Hi NathanJ,

Australia aspires to being a tolerant and inclusive society free from hate and bigotry, that is an aspersion rather than a reality. The fact is discrimination is deeply rooted in Australian society, from the massive discrimination directed towards Aboriginal people from the earliest days of colonisation to today, to the anti-Asian, Islamophobia, gay hate, and antisemitism etc discrimination which is evident today.

The polarisation in Australia, with what seems to be a shift to the hateful politics of the extreme right is only going to exacerbate discrimination.

It's a can of worms AC. I would agree with you about the editor being free to provide her services at her discretion, but does that make her different from the restaurant in China that refused to serve a black American basketballer, leaving him to watch his wife and kid eating lunch through a pane of glass? Aholes can create some difficult problems.

“Inclusive society”? When it comes to Jews we are an antisemitic society. Not individually. But as a country we broadcast antisemitism globally.

Jews are safer in Israel than they are in Australia.

Nathan has apparently been driven to ask another of his Dorothy Dixers after hearing an ABC podcast about the Royal Commission into antisemitism in Australia.

Answer your own questions, Nathan. All you are doing is providing an excuse for the site's antisemite to sound off.

Anthony Halas, chair of the Jewish Centre for Law and Justice can look after himself. He will find another publisher.

And, the Royal Commission will provide the answers you claim to seek. Anonymous people, strangers with no known qualifications, are the last people you should be asking. If you took notice of other posters and actually took part in discussions instead of just asking questions, you would know what others think about everything.

Speaking of a-holes...

"All you are doing is providing an excuse for the site's antisemite to sound off."
- If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute to the discussion then just shut up you idiot.

At least NathanJ knows how to start a thread properly by posting a link to the content being discussed.

As I understand it, the editor isn't declining to work with the writer because he's Jewish but because of his views on one issue.

That's not racial discrimination but a political difference and any legal action wouldn't get off the ground. The editor has every right to decline to be involved in a political treatise that pushes views they don't agree with.

There you go. Solved by mhaze as another storm in a teacup.

Another episode of Jews waging an endless war on the whole world more likely.
As chair of the Jewish Centre for Law and Justice, he can't be told no without feining victimhood and blaming Anti-Semitism for not getting his way.
I imagine he'd be frowned upon and criticised by other Jews if he didn't scream anti-Semitism?

It's just too easy to make these claims, just like the Henry Nowak situation shows us.

Just another contrived load of bs, false claims of discrimination.
- Par for the course, it's their way to make claims like this.

They seem like decent people in the podcast.
They do a lot for disadvantaged people including non-Jews.
No excuse for trying to juice the word anti-semitism for all it's worth on a false basis however.
Maybe it should be a crime to scream anti-Semitism and racism when it's proven to be untrue.

when the PM is called a dog to his face at a local mosque, his isis brides are welcomed home, the lying corrupt climate cult can shut cities down and the filthy lgbtya brigade can 'perform' for kids our tolerance is a joke.

Hey runner,
'when the PM is called a dog to his face at a local mosque'

In all fairness I think he kind of asked for that, cheering on Trumps attack to kill the Ayatollah..
- Then heads down to the local mosque for a photo op afterwards the attention seeking moron.
Serve himself right.

They're not really saying anything the rest of us aren't also saying.
It's just that 'THEY' said it, and it's hard to cop potential newcomer Muslim immigrants even criticising Magoo like that.

But he's also their PM too you know, so what do you expect?
Even they know an idiot when they see one.

I think it's time for me to go listen to the other half of NathanJ's podcast.
After that I might go watch Autistic AF with Grace Tame.
She's Australia's Public Enemy #1 apparently.
Everyone's crying about it, but no-one will watch it so I will.

What tolerance runner? Dont make me laugh. Extremists like you have never had any tolerance ever.

Ok, I've listened to the full podcast.

"Are we an inclusive society in Australia or is it O.K to discriminate against people of a Jewish background considering what many Jewish people have been put through over the years?"

What exactly do you mean by discriminate?
We all think it's perfectly fine to discriminate against neo-Nazis right?
Those who give support to this ideology.
What difference is Zionism?

Are we an inclusive society in Australia or is it O.K to discriminate against neo-nazis considering what many have been put through over the years?

The neo-nazis aren't putting any Jews in gas chambers.
Same argument diaspora Zionists make when they say they aren't responsible for what Israel does.
- But they still support the ideology that leads to atrocities.

Hi runner,

You have such a Christian attitude, where did you get it from. Its a pity you were born so late, you would have made a welcome addition to the Spanish Inquisition. You would have been a terrific inquisitor, I can just see you now, turning the thumb screws on some poor sod you accused of being gay, progressive or left wing.

BTW, are Br Pennis, and Fr Fookemup still down at the church on a Sunday morning, with all those lovely little alter boys running around the place.

BTW, are Br Pennis, and Fr Fookemup still down at the church on a Sunday morning, with all those lovely little alter boys running around the place.

actually, Paul they are too busy grooming kids in libraries and recruiting through their shame months. Mind you I doubt the Greens would even see child abuse a crime.

Just replying to some here,

Firstly, this issue was covered by the Australian. Unfortunately I couldn't include a link as the article was under paywall.

I wouldn't call the Australian Newspaper turning this matter into a storm in a teacup or anything close. If anything they are a very pro-Israel, pro-Jewish newspaper - which they are of course allowed to be.

In this case we are facing a Jewish writer being denied a service in terms of publishing a book about the Holocaust. A history rooted no doubt in many sad stories. We need to know more about these stories - and we can't know if they are not put out there in a public realm.

It is a difficult issue for the editor in this case, as she is put off by the views of the person in question, but I am also sure she is fearful if she takes on any work of a Jewish/Israeli author she risks her business being boycotted and losing income as a result. She will have to take a whole range of things into account - including going against people who are Jewish. You can't say they are not, when they are.

Negative activity against Jewish people in Australia is on the rise and this is covered well in an opinion piece on the ABC website link, see below where you actually get to read the story of an individual.

The author wrote with no name included to protect her identity and not have to face abuse in a public environment. No one should be put in that situation in Australia.

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/jewish-woman-australia-like-a-sanctuary-before-7-october/106672564

Finally, the author in this case in terms of wanting his book published is Jewish. You can't separate that off from his views. The two are connected and linked. So much like the egg and the yolk, you pretty much have to accept and take the whole thing.

Google? 'Jewish attacks on Palestinian writers'

>>Palestinian writers and journalists are facing severe, multi-faceted pressures involving both physical danger and professional censorship, particularly since October 2023. These actions include targeted killings in air strikes, physical assaults, and smear campaigns aimed at restricting their public platform

Key Instances and Trends

Physical Safety and Deaths: Several Palestinian writers, journalists, and poets have been killed in Israeli air strikes in Gaza. Examples include Dr. Refaat Alareer (Dec 2023), Omar Abu Shawish (Oct 2023), and journalist Al-Taweel.

Physical Assaults: In the West Bank, illegal Israeli settlers have attacked Palestinian journalists with pipes and stones while they were covering events, resulting in severe injuries.

Censorship and "Smear Campaigns": In Australia, Palestinian writers like Dr. Randa Abdel-Fattah have faced efforts to exclude them from literary festivals, driven by accusations of antisemitism or anti-Israel commentary, with supporters calling these actions orchestrated harassment or anti-Palestinian racism.

Professional Marginalization: Many Palestinian authors report being subjected to intense public scrutiny, "blacklist" attempts, and pressure on publishers to censor their voices.

Broader Context: These actions are often described as part of a wider conflict where literature and journalism are treated as fronts of struggle, with intense pressure on cultural institutions to limit the expression of Palestinian viewpoints. Conversely, some pro-Israel groups, such as the Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC), have accused certain Palestinian authors of spreading hate and have called for their exclusion from public platforms.<<

Google? 'ABC journalist sacked over Jewish views'

>>The Federal Court of Australia ruled in June 2025 that the ABC unlawfully terminated journalist Antoinette Lattouf in December 2023. The court found she was sacked, in part, because of her political opinions regarding the Israeli military campaign in Gaza, following an "orchestrated campaign" by pro-Israel lobbyists.<<

Do you know that Israel assassinated 275 journalists, (probably more now) many with airstrikes at home with their wife and kids? (also killed)

The editor has stated publicly she could not "comfortably work with someone who supports Israel's actions" in terms of the ongoing conflict there.

And for that, his response is:

'I want to bring you out into the spotlight, publicly vilify you and take you to the cleaners in court.'

Law and Justice...

They will tell Palestinian writers 'no' all day long, even bringing the entire writers festivals into disrepute (numerous times), and it's the same mentality that leads them to attack their own people if they dare step out of line.

I don't care about Jews connection to their biblical homeland.
What I care about is the lengths they will go to and the harm they readily inflict to get it back.

How much is the bill for the coming global depression?
The worlds been paying double for the price of oil for the last 4 months.

I support the editors right to decline.

The interesting question is why would he want to force her to do something she's not comfortable doing when there are other options readily available?

Google? 'Jewish book editors'

>>Jewish book editors provide essential expertise for manuscripts focusing on Jewish fiction, memoir, theology, and history, ensuring cultural, religious, and historical accuracy. Specialized editors, such as Gila Green and those at Mosaica Press (represented by Doron Kornbluth), help navigate nuanced themes, ritual time, and inherited memory.<<
There's quite a number of options here.

The answer is that they can't help themselves to invoke anti-semitism card, threaten legal action and try to vilify, it's their way.

I don't really care if his book never hits the shelves.
Just the same as Palestinian stories that will never be heard because Israel bombed them to death, or vilified them into silence or destroyed their platform to be heard.

It's a different thing when a company or business rejects something to when a government rejects something. Generally I believe if a bakery doesn't want to bake a gay cake they can let the business go to someone else. There is a point where protection of minorities means destruction of majorities. There are ideological movements that are trying to destroy western society, these movements have been around for thousands of years, the difference is that we have forgotten about the danger.

But we need to be biased in favour of the founding Anglo-Celtic culture.

Hi AC,

I have just finished my work, it titled; 'The BS Of Christianity'. I was wanting it published, so I was thinking this mob would be the ideal publishers;

Brisbane Christian Printers. Our primary aim is to assist the Christian churches in printing magazines and periodicals for their members. This includes Church Bulletins, Christian Materials, Faith Magazines. We also print and distribute flyers for different organisations within the Christian church community. In addition to this we are willing and able to print booklets or flyers for personal events. (The last sentence, that's me!)

Do yah thinks they'd print my stuff? Me thinks they are the perfect choice.

p/s Do yah think they have lots of dosh to settle a law suit?

Paul,

I've seen the quality of your writing. I think the better publisher for anything you've written would be the publisher of "Little Golden Books".

Hi Trumpster,

Nothing wrong with the 'Little Golden Books', my kids loved them as tiny tots, just as you love them today. I know you rely on your set as your go to source of knowledge.

You seem to have gone quiet on Daffy Donald's illegal war on Iran. Nothing to say? After 3 months what has been achieved? Nothing, so you have nothing to say! Is that correct?

Hi Paul,
Ahh, I see where you're going there.
Maybe I could write up a few things and see if the Jewish publishers would put my most amazing work in print, and when they say no, well obviously it's time for lawsuits.

NathanJ,
Do you think the Jewish publishers would put some of my work in print, and if they don't should I sue them for denial of service?
I do try hard to put forward arguments in a completely valid way, on a basis of the topic own merits.

"You seem to have gone quiet on Daffy Donald's illegal war on Iran."

Illegal?

Anyway, after my last post on the last thread on the war had you skedaddling away, tale between your legs, I didn't see the need to post any more on the issue.

"illegal?"

Google? 'illegal war of aggression'

>>AI Overview
A war of aggression is the use of armed force by a state against another's sovereignty, territorial integrity, or political independence, violating the UN Charter. Defined as the "supreme international crime," it differs from other war crimes by containing the accumulated evil of the whole, as established by the Nuremberg trials.<<

Google? 'what does the UN charter say about US sanctions and regime changes?'

>>AI Overview
The UN Charter does not explicitly mention "regime change" or specifically authorize unilateral sanctions by individual nations. Instead, it establishes a framework based on state sovereignty, the prohibition of force, and collective action.<<

Strange that the charter doesn't mention that stuff...

Hi Trumpster,

All I got from YOU was the illegal war is half over, I assumed it was now running for 6 months, not 2 weeks as Daffy Donald originally claimed. Daffy Donald has claimed no less than 37 times; "peace is at hand" We known what Donald has got in his hand, and its not peace, he's got a piece of it, nothing else. The fact is the war has been a total disaster for America and Israel, nothing achieved other than to make Iran a bigger danger than it was before Feb 28th.
Come on Forum Friend suck it up, swallow your pride, and admit your man Daffy Donald is a total and complete failure.

Do you really want to do this again after it went so badly for you last time? Then start a new thread rather that hijack Nathan's.

Google? 'Israeli officials admit war is complete failure'

>>AI Overview
As of mid-2026, reports indicate that while the Israeli military has caused severe damage to its enemies, many officials, including former defense leaders, characterize the government's broader war strategies—ranging from Gaza to the 2026 conflict with Iran—as strategic and political failures that have not achieved their stated goals.

Failure to Achieve War Goals:
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak stated that none of the war's objectives were achieved, with Hamas remaining in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Iranian nuclear/missile threats not eliminated, describing it as a "severe strategic and political failure".

"Colossal Failure" on Oct 7:
In early 2025, the Israeli army released findings admitting a "colossal failure" in intelligence and operational preparedness for the October 7, 2023, attack, acknowledging the military failed to protect its citizens.

Netanyahu Described as "Failed War Leader":
Following the 2026 flare-up with Iran, critics have described Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a "humiliated, failed war leader" whose promises of "total victory" were not met.

Internal Cabinet Disagreements:
Reports from June 2025 indicated that three unnamed Israeli ministers admitted the military operation in Gaza had no practical results, calling for a change in strategy.

Public and Strategic Discontent:
Polling data from 2026 suggests many Israelis view the war as a failure, with concerns over the lack of a long-term strategy and the heavy reliance on the U.S. to broker ceasefires, such as the one announced by Donald Trump on June 9, 2026.

Note: These findings refer to reports and investigations published between early 2025 and June 2026.

Google? 'trump hated for iran failure'

>>AI Overview
As of June 2026, Donald Trump faces severe criticism and falling support over a "looming defeat" in his Iran conflict, described by critics as a personal and strategic failure. The administration's failure to achieve rapid regime change or surrender, rising economic pressures, and an increasingly unpopular war have prompted disapproval from both sides of the political spectrum.

Hi Trumpster,

Is this not all about Jewishness and the problems which have their roots in the wars in the Middle East.

YOU have been caught with your pants down, now YOU are running away with your pants on fire!

All I ask is state what YOU consider Daffy Donald has achieved with his illegal war against Iran? I am yet to hear anyone, friend or foe, say Donald has achieved anything other than failure! What do YOU say?

Ok NathanJ,

"Are we an inclusive society in Australia or is it O.K to discriminate against people of a Jewish background considering what many Jewish people have been put through over the years?"

People are unique and all have their own thoughts, opinions and experiences.

As for what is going in Gaza, Israels relentless attack of innocent women and kids, well I think there needs to be a little bit of pushback towards Jews to challenge their support for something that's clearly wrong. But I don't support harming innocent people.

Doing that would make one as bad as both Nazis AND Israelis.

Take for example in the podcast they mentioned the man who turned up at the royal commission wearing the Israel Nazi shirt.

I don't care if Jews are a little taken aback by that, they should be.
- And that's the whole point!

I think the bloke had every right to be there and express himself so long as he's not causing any real harm.
There's a difference between being offended and being harmed.

The shirts a political statement.
'Anti-Semitism PROUD TO BE ACCUSED'

You're not going to put your face out there like that in the public eye if you are planing attacks on Jews.
It's not a red swastika, it's a blue one with a Star of David in it, so the message is clear.
It implies 'Israels actions are as bad as the Nazis'.
- It doesn't show a red swastika and a caption saying 'I support the Nazi's'

If Jews are offended or a little fearful by that, then that's not a bad thing.
Maybe they will get on the phone and tell Bibi, G'vir and Smotrich to stop murdering people.
- Unless of course they really want to play with fire and end up with another Bondi and none of us wants that, because innocent people were harmed and Jews would just use it as an opportunity to push for more laws.

Hands off Grace Tame.

Grace Tame is Autistic AF - the interview everyone needs to watch
http://youtu.be/k9r7FVJhH04

She's just a young sensitive opinionated quirky and harmless Aussie girl.

- Being attacked by Avi Yemini, who showed which country is his primary concern when he chose to go to Israel and fight for the IDF and killed children throwing rocks, and had previously been a heroin addict.

I support Grace's right to talk shite, it's what most Aussies do.
- But I think it would've been wiser to have said
'Globalise the Resistance' not 'Globalise the Intifada'

Oh well, lookie here... Paul/AC assured us the war was over. Now, Iran firing at Israel and failing, Israel bombing Iran with impunity, Iran shooting at US helicopters, the US giving them a two-day(and counting) smack-down. Sure looks like a continuation of the war to me.

So we go back to the idiocy of trying to call the outcome during half-time. Its not over until the overweight chick sings.... just ask St Kilda.
http://youtu.be/FtzF9tQokRU?t=445

Hi Trumpster,

"Paul/AC assured us the war was over." News to me, when did I or AC for that matter say that? Daffy Donald said the war would be over in 2 weeks, that was 3 months ago. Now YOU claim its only half over, and with nothing achieved. What happened to regime change, Iran's nuclear program etc. Donald said Iran's military had been obliterated, how did they knock than $50 million American Apache helicopter out of the sky, did they throws rocks at it?

p/s Wouldn't it be ironic if Daffy Donald dropped one of Americas 5,000 nuclear bombs on Iran, just to prevent the Iranians from getting a nuclear bomb. It would only murder about a million or two innocent men, women and children. YOU could live with that? Hummm!

"News to me, when did I or AC for that matter say that?"

"When did you invent this half-time nonsense." Paul1405, Thursday, 4 June 2026 9:02:33 AM

"Its already game over mhaze, America lost." Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 June 2026 7:00:23 AM

SOP for Paul. Make a stupid claim and when its proven wrong, pretend he didn't say it and hope everyone has as bad a memory as him.

Nothing achieved? Well apart from the utter destruction of the Iranian air force, the Iranian navy, most of their missile batteries, most of their air defences, most of their radar and all of it along the western seaboard, a complete blockade of Iranian sea imports, confiscation of their overseas assets, turning most neighbouring against Iran and closer to Israel etc etc. Yep, nothing achieved!

There is still a way to go in the conflict. Sit tight and learn.

Hi mhaze.

1. They fired at a U.S base in Jordan.
2. Trumps account of the Apache is bs.
3. Dreaming.
4. Trumps only making his own situation worse.

Israel and the U.S can't fly into Iranian airspace, they have new air defence shooting down U.S. cruise missiles, tomahawks I assume.

This attack only weakens America's position when they beg for another ceasefire in a few days / weeks.

They have no military solution if they don't put boots on the ground.
Trumps not going to do that because U.S. troops will be taken hostage and he'll like like President Carter all over again.

Meanwhile Ben G'vir has been screaming about taking women and kids hostage and Smotrich levels Palestinian villages as payback.
Trump and Netanyahu are both checkmated.

Why don't you do yourself an actual favour for a change and try listening to some people who actually know whats going on.

Alastair Crooke: More Iran Attacks WEAKEN the US
http://www.youtube.com/live/pEHDc-UYi0U

Larry Johnson: BREAKING: The American ATTACK on Iran has BEGUN - Iran's Upscale Retaliation Coming
http://www.youtube.com/live/YE7JBvJ-h6M

Patrick Henningsen: How a U.S. Defeat Makes Iran a World Power
http://youtu.be/hOL1Hb2gdLI

We better get another thread started hey?
'Conflict in the M/E'?

Ah that's right.. It was an F35 Hanger in Jordan.

US Patriot Systems Hub HAMMERED’: Kuwait, Bahrain UNDER FIRE; Iran’s Chilling Response
http://youtu.be/xsFTwUWDioQ

Iran war day 104: Iran attacks US bases, closes strait after Trump strikes
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/11/iran-war-day-104-iran-says-it-attacks-us-bases-after-american-strikes
'Iran closes Strait of Hormuz, launches retaliatory strikes on US bases in Kuwait, Bahrain and Jordan after US bombs Iranian targets.'

Iran has come to the conclusion that trying to negotiate with America is a waste of time, meanwhile they have rebuilt their defences and have increased their capabilities since the ceasefire (that Israel never honoured)

Hi Trumpster,

"When did you invent this half-time nonsense." Paul1405, Thursday, 4 June 2026 9:02:33 AM

I didn't say the war was over, lying again! I asked where did you get the idea that the war was "half over". As Daffy Donald has no off ramp, and the Iranians are doing far better than expected, the war could be another 'American Afghanistan' and drag on for the next 10 years. I repeat; When did you invent this half-time nonsense? As I said you have been caught with your pants down, now YOU are running away with your pants on fire!

Paul,

You said the UW had lost. I said it wasn't possible to claim any results as regards the war since it was still on-going. You disputed that and now, when shown it is indeed on-going, are running for semantic cover. Saying it was half-time was just a metaphor (you'll need to look that up) rather than a precise calculation as to the length of the war.

AC,

you said the war was over. Now that its been proven that was rubbish you just run back to the sources that have led you down the garden path so often in the past to try to sooth your hurt. ("How a U.S. Defeat Makes Iran a World Power"....struth how much gumpf can one man fall for?!!).

Meanwhile, it has now been revealed that, far from Hormuz being closed, the US has been ushering ships through it by the score right under the noses of the clueless mullahs who can't see it happening because their radar has been smashed.

Yes and I stand by what I said, the wars over.
There might be some more fighting but it won't achieve much.

And I don't think Trumps getting any tankers through the strait.
I don't believe anything he or his administration says.

Oh, so the war is over except for all the fighting bit !!

Donald Trump deserves a Tony award to honor his outstanding artistic excellence, achievements, and contributions in live professional American theater mhaze.

Why don't we move this over to the other thread I started and you can tell me how bombing Iran again will change the U.S. situation for the better?

Bomb Iran (1980)
http://youtu.be/s8hEtI9AI0U

You do remember they fought Iraq for 8 years and America gave Iraq chemical weapons...

These people aren't just going to kneel you know.
I think their attitude now is closer to.

'No, we won't do what you say, and what are you going to do about it?'

And then Trump will blow something up... And then Iran will blow something up...
And in a weeks time the U.S. will be low on missiles and interceptors but Iran won't be.

Fantasy-land AC.

Oh and here's someone not named Trump confirming that the Straits of Hormuz aren't closed....
http://en.parapolitika.gr/world/205569/uae-exports-oil-through-strait-of-hormuz-using-tankers-with-disabled-transponders/

Your article's from the 8th May.
It was reported in both the Iranian media, and originally from Reuters, the day prior on the 7th.
The shipments were from April.

UAE ships oil through Hormuz on hidden tankers amid Iran war - Reuters
http://www.iranintl.com/en/202605070991

Exclusive: Hungry to sell, UAE slips hidden oil tankers through Strait of Hormuz
http://www.reuters.com/business/energy/hungry-sell-uae-slips-hidden-oil-tankers-through-strait-hormuz-2026-05-07/
"In April, the UAE's Abu Dhabi National Oil Co managed to export at least 4 million barrels of its Upper Zakum crude and 2 million barrels of &#8203;Das crude on four tankers from terminals inside the Gulf, according to three sources, shiptracking data from Kpler and an analysis of satellite data from SynMax."

Nice try.

Hi Trumpster,

The war is not physically over, after all the Iranians are still knocking American Helicopters out of the sky, they are still keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed, they are still lobbing bombs at American allies. For their part the Americans are still dropping bombs on the Iranians, so yes the war in that sense is not over. What is over is any possibility of Daffy Donald securing any of the objectives he and his sidekick Bad Bibi hoped to achieve on 28th Feb.

Yesterday morning Donald woke up in a very bad mood, probably wet the bed or something, too much Diet Coke the night before, he exclaimed that he was going to; "bomb the crap out of Iran"! However, by the afternoon, and probably after a couple of dozen cans of Diet Coke, the mood changed, Iran was now "our best buddies" and for the 48th time Donald declared that a peace deal was at hand, a very good peace deal was about to be signed. Donald even claimed he would dispatch his number one Gophor, JD, to Europe to sign the deal. IT AIN'T HAPPEN! Just more delusion from Daffy Donald. Agree?

Hysterical response from Trump administration as Iran 'leaks' MoU on peace deal
http://youtu.be/qxth2yCH_ik

Albanese Labor favours immigrants over Australian citizens whose families have lived in the country for generations. Their response to antisemitism in Australia has been pathetic.

Albanese Labor has no intention of reducing immigration or deporting people who have no right to be in the country.

"Hysterical response from Trump administration as Iran 'leaks' MoU on peace deal"

The only hilarious thing here is that there are some people who think this is the actual MOU.

The Iranians have said very clearly there will be no deal if America doesn't lift the blockade.
If the U.S. does not release the Iranian assets, no deal.
If sanctions aren't lifted, no deal.
If Israel doesn't stop attacking Lebanon, no deal.

Trump can play his silly games and talk all the bs he wants.

Mr art of the deal isnt getting a good deal.
He's offered a bad deal, or no deal.

He can carry on and pretend hes in control when his not.
He can come up with lies about shaheds lodged in apache gunship cockpits and find excuses to attack and look strong.

But he aint getting no good deal.

Daffy Donald is in quicksand, and sinking fast, he's hoping those nice Iranian chaps will pull him out, fat chance of that happening. The best deal DD can hope for seems to be the same as the 2015 Obama deal. Possibly the Iranians will throw in a free set of steak knives so DD can trumpet that he's got a better deal than Obama.

Declining to support an enterprise or endeavour is not the same as taking steps to restrict or destroy an enterprise or endeavour.
Declining support is a legitimate approach.
We all make choices every day about what we do.
Whether we will donate to a fund or buy a lottery ticket for example.
Or whether to travel by bus or by train.
Not favouring a particular thing is a personal idea.
Our decision not to participate in something should not cause that thing discernible harm.
Though it might cause slight inconvenience for someone.
Setting out to cause harm is completely different.
That could cause disadvantage for someone.
And that might be unlawful.

By acting against President Trump the Democrats and Rinos are giving Iran nuclear weapons, they are playing chicken with nuclear war- well I hope the Woke Marxist's are happy when the mushrooms appear.

Trump has gone completely bonkers, desperate to save his political skin he has told the Iranian negotiators in Switzerland that if they don't make a deal, then they might not make it back home to Iran alive!

Since Trump is giving the Iranian regime $US300 billion to do what they like with, maybe develop a nuk bomb or three. He's also given Iran control of the S of H and anything else they want. Trump might give them Australia if they ask for it!

Bibi and the rest of the Zionists and are doing their best to derail any peace deal, they want the wars to continue to further their control and extend the Pan-Israel boarders to take in even more territory than that illegally occupied now.