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CANZUK: An idea Worth Considering
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Posted by ttbn, Monday, 9 March 2026 9:15:04 PM
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Now if those countries were run by Margaret Thatcher, Brian Mulroney (or Stephen Harper), John Howard and, well NZ is a problem, then it would be a good deal, but with the current crop of leaders?
Posted by Graham_Young, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 7:24:43 AM
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Yes Graham. The quality of leadership would need to be addressed.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 8:08:57 AM
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Dr. Bruce Mabley of the Australian Institute of International Affairs, in 2020, considered that a CANZUK economic bloc might be powerful enough to rival the EU, China, and the U.S. He also said that for some it would be a “nostalgic return” to Empire and Commonwealth leadership by the UK. And a damn good thing that would be. After changes of government in Australia and the UK.
It's all very well for “progressives” to sneer at it, but what a mess they have made of the Anglosphere compared with the ‘good old days’ that they didn't experience personally or by reading the history of them. Australia, as one of the CANZUK partners, could reduce its trade with China by creating new markets with our common language/values partners. China's growing militarism and trade monopoly could be “finally tempered” by a powerful and liberal democratic bloc capable of achieving consensus on matters such as support for a free Hong Kong, for Uyghurs, and for Tibet. Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 1:14:52 PM
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It's not just the leaders, it's the people advising them as well.
I just went over to the AIIA website, and listened to a few minutes of this. http://youtu.be/rsN2233_oCQ Seriously, these people are living in their own echo chambers blowing hot air up each others rear ends. (and ours) Didn't I tell you U.S. air defence was overpriced junk? U.S. embassies and their 27 M/E military bases unable to prevent attacks from $5000 drones? Trumps already begging for a second ceasefire, do you know why? Because he's been told the wars unwinnable, and the U.S. has been shown to be a toothless tiger, just as I told you all years ago. Trumps trying to find a way out whilst pretending he achieved something, but there's no way out. This is the end of the U.S. empire. Xi's sitting there thinking to himself 'Taiwan will be a cakewalk' Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 3:34:47 PM
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U.S. lies again, to hide it's incompetence.
One killed, others injured in Iranian attack in Bahrain http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/one-killed-others-injured-in-iranian-attack-in-bahrain/ CENTCOM denies Patriot misfire claim, says Iranian drone hit Bahrain neighborhood http://www.iranintl.com/en/202603091509 >>US Central Command rejected claims by Russian and Iranian state media that a US Patriot missile accidentally struck a neighborhood in Bahrain while attempting to intercept an incoming threat. “Russian and Iranian media claimed earlier today that a US Patriot missile missed … and inadvertently hit a neighborhood in Bahrain. LIE,” CENTCOM said in a post on X.<< ... Meanwhile, on X http://x.com/MintPressNews/status/2031080658676674804 >>A video circulating from Bahrain appears to contradict claims from U.S. Central Command, which denied that a Patriot interceptor malfunctioned during an attempted interception earlier today. CENTCOM says reports from Russian and Iranian media suggesting a U.S. Patriot missile fell into a residential neighborhood are false, insisting that an Iranian drone strike hit the area instead — injuring 32 civilians, including children, according to Bahraini authorities. However, footage shared online shows what appears to be failed interceptor debris falling into a residential district, raising questions about what exactly happened during the attempted interception.<< Just think about how many lies the U.S. has been able to tell over the years... You know why people these days are so clueless? Because they don't bother looking or checking into to anything, preferring to believe whatever crap they hear that reinforces their existing biases. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 3:47:32 PM
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Freedom of movement within the four countries is a prime objective of CANZUK. This form of immigration is unlikely to cause distortions in labour markets, and there would be no language or skills problems as per willy-nilly immigration from non-English speaking countries. Something like Australia and New Zealand have now. All the four countries share the same Monarch, the same Westminster parliamentary system, the same common law legal system, and the same Western culture.
“Solidarity amongst the four kindred peoples”. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 11 March 2026 6:57:31 AM
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The uncertainties of the modern world, including the US action against Iran - the consequence of which, for Australia, is the threat to lines of supply, particularly oil - call for an alliance such as CANZUK. Big powers and rising powers are causing instability.
The combined GDP of our four countries is predicted to be $8.85 trillion this year, capable of challenging “volatile actors globally”. Mobility of movement among CANZUK countries would ensure “automatic professional recognition” for professional workers when needed. The bloc would also be the world’s third largest defence spender, exceeding $140 billion. Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 12 March 2026 9:03:19 AM
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The Canadian PM's visit to Australia has resulted in a major defence collaboration; and Canada has bought our Over-the-Horizon-Radar system.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 March 2026 9:06:57 AM
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I have no problem with economic cooperation agreements, but I do have a problem with war alliances, and their deadly consequences.
According to GY everything should be run a bunch of conservative economic dry nitwits like Iron Balls Thatcher and Little Johnny Howard. I don't know Brian Mulroney or Stephen Harper, but if they are included with the other pair of dills, they couldn't have been much good. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 16 March 2026 5:15:13 AM
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So you think teaming up with the U.K. is a great idea ttbn?
Here's Keir Starmer defending Muslims blocking streets to pray. http://youtu.be/qjTpgjQZnPQ?t=383 What do you even support? Do you have any actual principles? What makes Australia Australia What lines do we draw in the sand what makes us different Do you care about sovereignty Or do you just want to be someone else's handmaiden Whether that be the U.S. Israel or the U.K. Canada, NZ. UAE ffs? Wheres like minded? what is that? If you think its all about our Judeo-Christian principles then go kill some kids for Israel What are our principles? What do we stand ? What are we fighting for? Do we stand with the U.S. and Israel and accept a policy of blowing up apartment buildings and attacking civilians as normal in war? Better get it figured out really quick... Democracy makes fighting amongst ourselves a requirement... Forced to try to choose (and then accept) the next least-worst-lying-traitor-dh. I don't choose ANY of these f-wits. Each on comes with baggage. They might have one or two good ideas that 'sound good' in the beginning. But they bring more crap along with them than they are worth. ALL OF THEM. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 19 March 2026 12:32:22 PM
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I support diplomacy, dialogue, and compromise over conflict.
We all owe that to the next generation of Aussies. I don't support sanctions or overthrows or targeting women, kids, journalists, paramedics. I don't support kidnapping, assassinating foreign leaders and dignitaries. I don't care about religions. All this crap because of one bloke named Abraham. Endless shite. I don't care about shiddy foreign countries and their self-created problems that are like cancer to the rest of the planet. I support my Australian culture Beaches, beer, boobs and bikinis, bacon and eggs breakfast, sunday roast, meat fecking pies and a pair of thongs. I'll criticise too many Asians, Lebanese or Indians in the country and then pop straight down to buy my beef in oyster sauce, halal snack pack of mango-butter chicken. Because that's what we do. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 19 March 2026 12:45:35 PM
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Hi AC,
I agree with 99% of what you say, however there is some disagreement between us on the 'halal snack pack', I am a dyed in wool Aussie bloke, and I prefer the traditional dinky-di Aussie tucker, the Doner Kebab. I still think "George" at the Ottoman Kabab at Capalaba, does the best Kabab this side of Istanbul, not that I've tried many Kabab's in Istanbul lately. When I was a young bloke, and prone to getting on the piss on a Friday and Saturday night, not my fault of course, led astray by that gang of "piss-heads", whom I had acquainted at school, there was no underage drinking when I was 17! Me and the lads would often end up at midnight, staggering down to Abdul's Lebanese Restaurant and Takeaway in Surry Hills Sydney, now closed, I think the Bibi mob bombed the joint out of existence, believing it was hiding a brigade of the Hasballah Children's Militia, knocked off 400, collateral damage you understand. When I was in Abdul's I always felt I was in the Aussie quarter of Beirut, not that I've ever been in the Aussie quarter of Beirut, not that I would want to be in the Aussie quarter of Beirut these days, might get an unexpected visit from the Bibi mob, and you know how that ends up. Anyway, enjoy your 'halal snack pack' before the Bibi mob pays an unexpected visit to Aussie. p/s Did you know Donald believed the Iranians we about to develop a 10 megaton halal snack pack and were going to drop it on New York, resulting in Barbecue Sauce everywhere. Donald had to act immediately! Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 March 2026 2:21:33 PM
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Thanks ttbn for the thread.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 24 March 2026 12:04:49 PM
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CANZUK was founded in 2015, with the idea of maintaining a close affinity of cultural, diplomatic and military ties, and a common language. A pragmatic alliance of trusted, democratic partners with shared values.
At this time, March 2026, CANZUK is supported by 72% of Canadians; 68% of Australians; 75% of New Zealanders, and 70% of Britons.
John Humphreys writes that, rather than arguing about “more/less trade and more/less immigration”, we should concentrate on the “makeup” of our trade and immigration partners. Boost productivity, geopolitical power, and connect with people who share a similar culture.
On immigration, culture is important. The same relatively free movement between Australia and New Zealand could easily extend to Canada and Britain; common language, history, Monarchy, legal system, parliamentary system, and many aspects of culture are the same or very similar. Multiculturalism has been a failure. Cultural compatibility is a must.
Trade should be with reliable allies.
With regards to geopolitical power, which Humphreys admits is probably of little interest to Australians, Australia ranks 11th, only above South Korea, and below Brazil and Mexico. The CANZUK combination would rank 4th., a position the author says would give us “an unparalleled network of safe harbours and strategic bases around the world”.
Plenty of wrinkles to be ironed out but, as John Humphreys says, it's an idea “worth considering”.