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Putting Bondi on the Map
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Liberal democracies are built on a consensus of the citizenry to abide by the rules and mores of the society. When one group or a significant portion of that group don't accept those rules and openly flout them in their search to replace the liberal democracy, then some of the niceties have to be suspended. Those seeking to replace the rules of society aren't entitled to benefit from those rules but do rely on us not having the stomach to confront them.
Of coarse in this case they also rely on their electoral clout to maintain special privileges.
"citing rhetoric or scripture does not substitute for behavioural evidence. "
I didn't say it did. I was merely pointing out how clueless you were in not knowing it was part of their belief systems.
"Every major religion and ideology contains language that can be weaponised;"
I'm not entirely sure that's true. But it is so of the Abrahamic religions. We've litigated this in previous threads and I don't want to go down that path again, especially with someone whose knowledge on the issue is minimal. But just as a summary, the difference between Islam and Christianity is that the New Testament negates the violent parts of the Old Testament whereas the Meccan texts in Islam, which contain the encouragement to violence, superseded the Medinan texts.
"intelligence failure does not validate collective punishment"
This isn't collective punishment. This is just how people try to protect the real problem members by using those who aren't a problem. Its the equivalent of Hamas hiding in schools and hospitals. We are just talking about heightened vigilance. We are saying that if a Muhammadian shows Islamist tendencies they aren't then given a free pass to carry on unobserved, allowed access to guns, allowed to travel overseas for military training. Muhammadians who adhere to the Medinan texts wouldn't shouldn't and couldn't be interfered with.