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It is Time to Say it Out Loud

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I know that what I am about to write will raise rejection, perhaps even
anger, but it is time to speak out.
I have over the last few days read about what is going on in Africa.
In the North Eastern part in Somalia there is a genocide being waged by
Arabised Africans. First I had heard that phrase and my spell checker
also has never heard it.
Hundreds of Generic black Africans are being murdered on a large scale
all over Africa. Islamic African gangs are murdering on a large scale
in many countries the Congo being one of the worst.
It is hard to descibe but one of the worst was a raid on a Christian
village where they rounded up 70 Christians and took them to their
church, decapitated them, men women and children and left them.
Other events have involved hundreds being killed. The known number is
in the 100s of thousands, perhaps approaching a million.
Certainly many disposed are in camps.

Yet never a word in western news coverage.
Where is Black Lives Matter ?
Or is it only when white men kill black men ?

Meanwhile back in Syria the Islamists are now starting in on the Druze
and anyone not moslem.
Meanwhile back in the UK the Brits are being pushed out by the moslems.
How long before we hear of Brits being rounded up and slaughtered in
their own churches ?
It won't really be necessary because they are out breeding the Brits.
Already there are Sharia courts. How long before those courts can bring
down sentences of gaol, then eventually death penalties.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 5 April 2025 10:24:34 PM
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What exactly do you want to say out loud Bezza?
Somalia's on this list below right?
What makes you think what's going on there is any different to Syria?
I'm not saying it is, but it might be.

US ‘plans to attack seven Muslim states’
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/22/us-plans-to-attack-seven-muslim-states

"A former commander of NATO’s forces in Europe, Clark claims he met a senior military officer in Washington in November 2001 who told him the Bush administration was planning to attack Iraq first before taking action against Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."
http://youtu.be/x17KVOiiGfI

I shared this a few days back.

UAE Brokers U.S. Recognition of Somaliland for Israeli Military Base Against Houthi Threats
https://www.watanserb.com/en/2025/03/20/uae-brokers-u-s-recognition-of-somaliland-for-israeli-military-base-against-houthi-threats/
'A Strategic Shift in the Horn of Africa: How U.S. Recognition of Somaliland Could Reshape Regional Alliances, Impact the Yemen War, and Counter China's Influence.'

I denounce all violence and support diplomacy, dialogue, negotiations and compromise over conflict, but obviously not everyone agrees some have an 'end justifies the means' mentality.

It's interesting how some atrocities, the outrage is played up and other atrocities the outrage is played down.
If you look hard enough you will see contradictory narratives.

Red Crescent Worker Who Survived Israeli Massacre Recounts Horror
http://www.dropsitenews.com/p/red-crescent-massacre-gaza-israel

A Ukrainian child dies in a Russian airstrike and the outrage is deafening,
100 kids die in an airstrike on a tent camp in Gaza and there's silence.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 6 April 2025 4:12:22 PM
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Part 2 so to speak.
The problem with the Jihadi practise is that it comes from the Koran
and is pressed by the words to the moslems that they are to either
convert the unbelievers to Islam, offer them their life if they pay
the jizaz tax or else kill them.
This is the offer invading moslems have made for the last 1400 years.
How else have they converted all the middle east, Egypt, all North
Africa and now the rest of Africa. Then Persia was conquered this way
and in India about 8 million Indians refused their offer.

The objective of Islam is to force the submission of the whole world
to Islam under a world wide Caliphate.
It has been very successful so why would they stop ?
They have a large block in the United Nations so except where the major
parties have a veto they basically control the UN.
The Koran tells them that Islam is at war with the "West", and when
Europe and the United States are conquered by the migration and then
destroyed they will be under the Caliphate.

Think this is all fantasy ? They say it often enough and you can see
them practicing it enough around the world.
The modern version of their aim is to infiltrate by migration and
gradually build their numbers, especially by a high birthrate until
they aggressively impose Sharia Law and ban all other religions.

Of course the blind will say this is all nonsense but ask the Jews who
have been fighting them off for 1400 years, and all the peoples of the
Islamic countries that are currently under attack including Australia.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 6 April 2025 11:17:15 PM
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Bezza,

With your extreme hatred of Muslims, you equate all mass violence to the religion of Islam. The situation in Africa, just as it is elsewhere, is far more complex than simply a problem of religion.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 7 April 2025 5:15:37 AM
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Well firstly what do you propose we do about it?
And do you think the Colonial powers and their empires, the Dutch, the British, the Americans were all good decent caring people bringing peace and goodwill to all men?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 9:10:42 AM
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No Paul you let your opinions blind you to reality.
My opinion is that Islam is a religious terrorist movement that has
been designed to take over the world.
Most Moslems do not all want to take part but they do not resist jihad.
Why do you not believe it when they preach it loud enough ?
It is not as if it is some historical event of the past.

Armchair, what on earth does your reply have to do with it ?
History is history but this is today and tomorrow.
Study the history of Jihad and you might see the continuity.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 10:14:07 AM
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Well what do you propose we do about it?
Ban Islam? Ban all religions?
Or just have a investigation into which parts of religion are shite?

Should we ban immigration, or exercise a right to choose who comes here?
Should be take part in Israels wars and become the aggressor, stir the pot and cause more conflict?

It's one thing to say 'such-n-such is shite'
- But what do you propose as a solution?

And what do Colonial powers have to do with it?
- Well that's an issue of 'empires'
Right now China is a rising empire and the west is a falling empire.
But the West seem intent on not going down without a fight, as all empires do.
It's inevitable that China will rise as America falls.
They have more people, more university educated technical graduates, the largest manufacturing base, and a military that's arguably just as formidable now as America.

We could just embrace a multipolar world, and try to promote all getting along together and to try resolve conflicts peacefully.
- But that's not how these things go, vested interests wish to maintain their wealth, power and status living off the backs of the slaves.

Watch
http://x.com/RayDalio/status/1908516864759935417
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 11:17:58 AM
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Some ask what would I do about it.
Frankly I do not have a long term solution.
In the short term we should ban large Islamic immigration such as the
arrival of thousands of people from Gaza unchecked.
That seemed to me to be utter stupidity.
When someone swears for Australian citizenship they renounce other
allegiances.
It can be argued that holding a belief in the political aims of Islam
to conquer the world under a Caliphate is a contradiction to their oath.

All I can say is study the history and political aims of Jihad you
might just learn something.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 11:58:57 AM
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"When someone swears for Australian citizenship they renounce other allegiances."
- If that is your reasoning, then do you think it's reasonable to apply the same reasoning equally?

Australian defence force officer stripped of security clearance over loyalty to Israel
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/24/australian-defence-force-officer-stripped-of-security-clearance-over-loyalty-to-israel-ntwnfb

HWMW told Asio: “Zionism is an essential theme within Judaism. Judaism mandates the loyalty of a Jew to his people and to the Land of Israel.”

He said most Australian Jews do not volunteer to serve in the Australian defence force, but rather the Israel Defense Forces. He said he volunteered to serve in the ADF “as I felt a strong sense of belonging to Australia and I wanted to give back to the country and demonstrate the importance of serving here in Australia as opposed to the IDF”.
“It seems that events have now turned on me.”

If Australian Jews would prefer to fight under the a flag which displays a Star David and the land between the Nile and the Euphrates than the Australian flag, are they worthy of Australian citizenship.
Do they support Australian government policies of a 2 state solution?
How can they serve two masters at the same time?

Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
- But then you face the issue of discrimination.
You wish to discriminate on a basis of merit, on Netanyahus request I may add.

http://www.gov.il/en/pages/event-statements030425
"I would say that our cooperation goes deeper than that because I believe we are fighting a similar battle for the future of our common civilization. Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization as we understand it, it's under assault right now from one powerful corner and that is radical Islam."

Truth is Netanyahu himself presided over funding to Hamas, to keep both Hamas and Fatah disunified. And the US armed, trained and fostered the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Cold war, and have funded many radical Islamic groups in wars for Zionists since then.

Should I not also be able to discriminate if the argument holds merit?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 2:14:41 PM
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Armchair said;
Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
Trouble is one side has the instruction of Allah and the other side is
everyone that is not a moslem. Simple isn't it !
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 4:11:32 PM
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Interesting how many people on here do not have a clue about what is going on.
Some talk about getting both sides to come to agreements or similar.
Armchair said;
Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
They do not realise there is no such thing as two sides.
It is between God (Allah) and everyone.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 4:35:58 PM
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Bezza,

On balance I believe all three monotheistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been a negative for human development, human kind would be far better off if these religions had never came into existence. The three are the same in their basic belief that there is a singular, omnipotent, all powerful god who must be revered and obeyed. The basic belief is not the problem which these religions have created, silly as it is, the basic belief simply defies reality, but is harmless in itself. The problem is these religions have proved themselves to be intolerant of all others, including the other two. With power they have sought to dominate all others, and resorted to extreme violence to meet that end.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 5:35:26 AM
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Not quite right Paul, I don't think the Jews have tried to dominate all
others. Some Christian denominations did in historical time although
not with a program to conquer the world under arms.
The colonialists did not convert the natives with a threat of or else.
The difference with Islam is that the use of terrorism is encouraged.
The Koran was written during the Arab conquest of Mesopotamia.
I saw an interesting comment that the grammar used in one part of the
Koran was in use in the area around Baghdad in the 8th century.
I don't think burning all Korans and blowing up mosques would do much good.
Look how long the Indians have been trying to get Islam back out of India.
There is in NSW I hear tell an organisation of moslems that would like
to write a new testament for the Koran.
They are probably too frighted to come public with the publicised
connection between the Lebanese crime gangs and the Islamists.
Anyway no hope of a solution except from moslem reconstruction.
good night k
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 11:12:49 PM
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Dear Critic,

I don't find enough time these days to comment on everything,
but one point you mentioned is so totally incorrect, regarding the Israeli flag.

Legend has it that the "star of David" was a symbol that ancient Judeans engraved on their shields.
In reality, David probably never existed and the symbol was likely adopted from Islam and became popular only since the 19th century.

As for the two blue lines, they have nothing to do with rivers, but come from the Biblical instruction:

“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘Throughout the generations to come you are to make tassels on the corners of your garments, with a blue cord on each tassel.“
[Numbers 16:38]

Personally, I consider all flags as an evil inducement to violence, but for now my time is up.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 7:41:05 AM
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"In reality, David probably never existed and the symbol was likely adopted from Islam and became popular only since the 19th century."

In reality there probably was a 'king' or warlord called David who lived around 1000 BC although many of the stories about him in the Bible are probably exaggerations. A bit like Achilles was probably a real character from the same era around whom fantastic stories grew. But we do know that others were boasting of defeating the "house of David" a century after David supposedly existed, suggesting a royal line.

As to the star of David, it certainly existed as a prominent Jewish symbol back in the 14th century (CE) and exists on various Jewish cemetery stones back to the 12th century. Like the swastika, it was a common symbol in ancient times in several cultures likely being two interlocking triangles symbolising the linking of God and Man.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 5:52:56 PM
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Those of you who live within cooee of the Lakemba Mosque are about to
have the call to prayer five times a day blasted out over the area.
Got this from a very indirect source so the council may have refused.
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 11 April 2025 10:59:58 PM
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Bezza,

All three monotheistic religions have had their moments, although Judaism never rose to the dizzy heights of the other two, but it can claim to be the foundation of Christianity and Islam. As for saying;

"not with a program to conquer the world under arms.
The colonialists did not convert the natives with a threat of or else"

I think using secularism, Christians were rather successful in conquering the world, as their empires spread out from Europe. Many a soul perished in the name of Christianity, the Spanish in South America for example. Slaves were forced to accept Christianity or else, others were convinced to convert for their economic wellbeing, or with the promise of reward in some imagined after life.

I still say mankind would have been better off if he had never invented these monotheistic religions. They have proven themselves to be a self imposes curse.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 April 2025 3:40:35 AM
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With your extreme hatred of Muslims,
Paul1405,
To fear for one's Nation's downfall & blatant violence as urged by Islam is definitely not hatred, it's genuine concern that warrants making the wider community aware !
Calling it hatred is nothing more than hate speech by a hater !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 20 April 2025 9:39:47 AM
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