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It is Time to Say it Out Loud

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Well what do you propose we do about it?
Ban Islam? Ban all religions?
Or just have a investigation into which parts of religion are shite?

Should we ban immigration, or exercise a right to choose who comes here?
Should be take part in Israels wars and become the aggressor, stir the pot and cause more conflict?

It's one thing to say 'such-n-such is shite'
- But what do you propose as a solution?

And what do Colonial powers have to do with it?
- Well that's an issue of 'empires'
Right now China is a rising empire and the west is a falling empire.
But the West seem intent on not going down without a fight, as all empires do.
It's inevitable that China will rise as America falls.
They have more people, more university educated technical graduates, the largest manufacturing base, and a military that's arguably just as formidable now as America.

We could just embrace a multipolar world, and try to promote all getting along together and to try resolve conflicts peacefully.
- But that's not how these things go, vested interests wish to maintain their wealth, power and status living off the backs of the slaves.

Watch
http://x.com/RayDalio/status/1908516864759935417
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 11:17:58 AM
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Some ask what would I do about it.
Frankly I do not have a long term solution.
In the short term we should ban large Islamic immigration such as the
arrival of thousands of people from Gaza unchecked.
That seemed to me to be utter stupidity.
When someone swears for Australian citizenship they renounce other
allegiances.
It can be argued that holding a belief in the political aims of Islam
to conquer the world under a Caliphate is a contradiction to their oath.

All I can say is study the history and political aims of Jihad you
might just learn something.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 11:58:57 AM
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"When someone swears for Australian citizenship they renounce other allegiances."
- If that is your reasoning, then do you think it's reasonable to apply the same reasoning equally?

Australian defence force officer stripped of security clearance over loyalty to Israel
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/24/australian-defence-force-officer-stripped-of-security-clearance-over-loyalty-to-israel-ntwnfb

HWMW told Asio: “Zionism is an essential theme within Judaism. Judaism mandates the loyalty of a Jew to his people and to the Land of Israel.”

He said most Australian Jews do not volunteer to serve in the Australian defence force, but rather the Israel Defense Forces. He said he volunteered to serve in the ADF “as I felt a strong sense of belonging to Australia and I wanted to give back to the country and demonstrate the importance of serving here in Australia as opposed to the IDF”.
“It seems that events have now turned on me.”

If Australian Jews would prefer to fight under the a flag which displays a Star David and the land between the Nile and the Euphrates than the Australian flag, are they worthy of Australian citizenship.
Do they support Australian government policies of a 2 state solution?
How can they serve two masters at the same time?

Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
- But then you face the issue of discrimination.
You wish to discriminate on a basis of merit, on Netanyahus request I may add.

http://www.gov.il/en/pages/event-statements030425
"I would say that our cooperation goes deeper than that because I believe we are fighting a similar battle for the future of our common civilization. Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization as we understand it, it's under assault right now from one powerful corner and that is radical Islam."

Truth is Netanyahu himself presided over funding to Hamas, to keep both Hamas and Fatah disunified. And the US armed, trained and fostered the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Cold war, and have funded many radical Islamic groups in wars for Zionists since then.

Should I not also be able to discriminate if the argument holds merit?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 April 2025 2:14:41 PM
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Armchair said;
Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
Trouble is one side has the instruction of Allah and the other side is
everyone that is not a moslem. Simple isn't it !
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 4:11:32 PM
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Interesting how many people on here do not have a clue about what is going on.
Some talk about getting both sides to come to agreements or similar.
Armchair said;
Why should we just ban one side in this conflict equation, why not ban both?
They do not realise there is no such thing as two sides.
It is between God (Allah) and everyone.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 7 April 2025 4:35:58 PM
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Bezza,

On balance I believe all three monotheistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been a negative for human development, human kind would be far better off if these religions had never came into existence. The three are the same in their basic belief that there is a singular, omnipotent, all powerful god who must be revered and obeyed. The basic belief is not the problem which these religions have created, silly as it is, the basic belief simply defies reality, but is harmless in itself. The problem is these religions have proved themselves to be intolerant of all others, including the other two. With power they have sought to dominate all others, and resorted to extreme violence to meet that end.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 8 April 2025 5:35:26 AM
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