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Trump runs wild and trips over domestic inflation and disinformation about Ukraine

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"However, Trump appears to think he can't stop Putin and is bent on stopping Zelensky."
How can he stop Putin's war in Ukraine.

"To achieve this, either Ukraine has to capitulate or Zelensky has to resign and be replaced by somebody who has Putin's approval."
Ukraine does have to capitulate, and Zelensky does have to resign.
Putin does not need a puppet ruler, just one that wants peace more than they want Ukrainians dying.

"Zelensky had previously declared that he would agree to resign on condition that Ukraine becomes a member of NATO."
- That would mean Russia loses the war as this is what it was all about in the first place. Russia has no choice except to continue the war until Ukrainian military collapses and Ukraine capitulates. Fight to the last Ukrainian.

"That has not changed, and he continues to have the backing of all the major European countries and several others around the world."
- Let them send their troops, and be swept from office when they fail.

Baerbock - 'devoid from reality' like the other EU leaders.
'Just peace' means Russian capitulation and Ukrainian Victory.

>>"I'm for both Ukraine and Russia... I want to get it solved," he added.
That remains to be seen.<<

You say that 'remains to be seen'.

Why don't you put forth a 'plan or solution', and I'll tell you why it won't work.

The Brits and Europeans are doubling down on their 'continue he war' narrative.
UK media claims possible Russia collapse
http://youtu.be/EfIL12DzPOE

Starmer WAR summit. Coalition of willing to fight Russia
http://youtu.be/epugjxUH

Looks like the new plan is the old plan.
Show me a solution that doesn't end in nuclear war.
Putin's not bluffing.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 9:08:15 AM
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"Venezuela has that much oil everyone in the country should be a millionaire."

Yeah that's what Chavez told them. But the only people who became millionaires were the Chavez family (billionaires actually) and now the Maduro family. But AC won't see that.

"I'm not sure if you're a complete idiot, or you just think I am."

Well more the latter but not a complete idiot. I just think you aren't terribly interested in the truth. Your form a view based on who you see as the enemy and then look for evidence to support the pre-judged view, accepting any propaganda that supports it as unassailable fact and rejecting any evidence that disproves it as complete lies...or sometimes just ignoring it.

eg..I pointed out that the decline in Venezuelan living standards started BEFORE the US started sanctions (except a few sanctions on individual leadership members). Now such a timeline is devastating to your claims, so what do you do. Just straight up ignore it. Don't dispute it; don't try to disprove it...just ignore it. So not a complete idiot, just someone more concerned with the propaganda than the truth.

"I told you weeks back Netanyahu would break the ceasefire..."

The ceasefire expired. Do try to keep up.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 10:16:00 AM
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Banjo,

"With Trump considering that it is in America’s best interests, he has switched his government’s support from Ukraine to Putin’s Russia"

No. Trump supports a negotiated peace where neither side gets everything it wants. That's why he wanted the minerals deal. But he can't go to Putin to pressure him into accepting a peace that doesn't give him everything he wants while Ukraine is there saying they won't sign up at all unless they get everything they want. Trump's starting point is to get Ukraine to realise that without the US they lose their country. Then he can negotiate with Putin. He'll then be in a position to tell Putin that unless he gves up his maximalist position, the US will double down on Ukrainian aid. This whole notion that its one side ot the other fails to understand international diplomacy. Wars end either by one side being totally defeated or negotiations where each side gives up some part of their original aims.

"A few hours prior to the televised bullying sequence, "

Watch the whole media event, not just the sound bites that have been playing. It ran for 40-odd minutes. And Zelensky was the instigator of the outrage.

I don't play the 'polls say' game because polls aren't what they used to be. But the same poll you are pushing found that approval for handling of the war went from -22& under Biden to +2% under Trump. It also found that those who want a compromise deal went from 31% a year ago to 50% now. and those who say Russia is an enemy of the US fell from 64% to 34%

/cont
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 10:52:35 AM
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/cont
The Europeans are gathering around trying to assure each other that all will be well. They dealt themselves out of the game by laughing at Trump's 2017 suggestion that they up their defence spending. Even now they virtue signal by saying they'll send troops to the front-line. And then quietly whispering that they'll only do it if the US is there.

Trump policy is America First. There is little in Ukraine that matters to the US. They've spent vastly more to prop up the Ukrainian regime than any other nation or group of nations. And those people, like the EU, demand they spend more still. Well that's not America First. Recent studies have shown that Europe is sending more money to Russia via oil sales than they are sending to Ukraine. The US under Trump is no longer a patsy.

The world is changing and Europe doesn't realise that they no longer matter. If Zelensky thinks he can get from Europe what he can no longer get from the US, he's about to heavily disabused
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 10:52:39 AM
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'but it was a minor supportive role'.
If you think 5 billion and CIA covert action under USAID is a minor supporting role, then that's up to you.

"The Europeans are gathering around trying to assure each other that all will be well."
"The world is changing and Europe doesn't realise that they no longer matter."
- They don't have the money, the manpower or the firepower to do anything.
All they can do is yell and scream, like Hillary supporters when she lost the election to Trump.
He's just gone and cut all military aid to Ukraine in response to their 'coalition of the willing'.

Checkmate.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 4:02:40 PM
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You know I was thinking about something.
- And it's actually a pretty big revelation.
(Not that I haven't spent years telling you such)

Britain and Europe were ill-prepared for democracy.
They all assumed the new US President should continue the same policies.

Look at the global efforts to impeach / discredit / sue / denigrate.
They were going to take control of his business empire.
They gave him mugshots, labelled him a rapist.
Impeached him for investigating Biden's wrongdoing.

(regardless of how one feels about the man)

What does that say about all of our democracies?
The way the UK and Europe are losing their collective minds hysterically right now?
THEY WEREN'T AT ALL PREPARED TO ACCEPT DEMOCRACY, A CHOICE BY THE PEOPLE.

Well obviously democracy is not a choice by the people.
It's a continuation of set policies no matter whose in charge.
Are our leaders not all just branch managers and their policies a continuation of that which big business / elites / political donors and bureaucrats want?
That we citizens decide little, if nothing at all?

- Trumps election proves that's exactly how it is.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 March 2025 7:14:29 PM
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