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America’s Flawed Democracy

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Dear mhaze,

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You wrote :

« … A riot yes, an insurrection no … You won't find any quote from Trump telling people to invade the congress … In a country with more guns than you can count, none of the so-called insurrectionists were armed. The only shots fired were aimed at the protestors. The first insurrection in history where the insurrectionists were unarmed!! »
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Yes, mhaze, the term “insurrection” is debatable. Unfortunately, a legal decision on the question now seems unlikely to be forthcoming following Trump’s election as president. The US Department of Justice (DOJ) is currently evaluating how to wind down the two federal criminal cases against the President-elect before he takes office, to comply with long-standing department policy that a sitting president can’t be prosecuted.

It seems that the ultimate goal is to get all the federal and state cases against Trump wiped out completely.

I have no doubt that they will succeed.

Allow me, nevertheless, to point out that the term insurrection, according to the 2024 Encyclopædia Britannica is defined as :

« an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt »

Nothing in that about gins or any other weapons. However, Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, the top prosecutor, was interviewed by Scott Pelley of CBS News on March 22, 2021. Here is an excerpt :

« There could have been many more deaths, but Sherwin says two dangerous plots failed.

Scott Pelley: What were the intentions of the suspect who was found with the 11 Molotov cocktail bombs?

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(Continued …)

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 12:56:56 AM
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(Continued …)

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Michael Sherwin: So you're referring, Scott, to Lonnie Coffman. And I think this is emblematic, that that day, as bad as it was, could have been a lot worse. It's actually amazing more people weren't killed. We found ammunition in his vehicle. And also, in the bed of the vehicle were found 11 Molotov cocktails. They were filled with gasoline and Styrofoam. He put Styrofoam in those, according to the ATF, because when you throw those, when they explode, the Styrofoam will stick to you and act like napalm.

Coffman's lawyer did not respond to us. In the other plot, the FBI is looking for a person seen near pipe bombs that were planted by the Capitol.

Scott Pelley: Why didn't they explode?

Michael Sherwin: It appears they weren't armed properly. And there could be a whole host of reasons. But they were not hoax devices, they were real devices. »

Sherwin was also quoted as having said that rioters could be charged with seditious conspiracy or insurrection.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 12:58:40 AM
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Dear Foxy,

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Yes, nobody’s perfect, but I’m sure Kamala Harris is basically a “good guy”, especially compared to Trump.

But, as ttbn rightly pointed out, that’s not what the majority of Americans want right now.

What they want is a ruthless autocrat who can silence all opposition and bulldozer his way through all the legal barriers and obstacles to get what they want :

• Cheaper cost of living

• Deportation of illegal migrants

• Effective border control

• America first

What they want is a bad guy.

They got it !

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 2:53:43 AM
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Given the state of the American psyche. If Kamala Harris had been a white Anglo male then Kamala Harris the man would have won. My opinion.....now for the fun and games. Trump was able to convince the "fat kid" who ate all the cake, that he deserves more cake!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 5:22:08 AM
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mhaze,

Seriously, wake up. The US presidential election is over.
There's no need for you to give us links to conservative,
right-wing sources that support Donald Trump and the
Republicans. Sources that will support anything anti-
Kamala Harris that they can fabricate.

There is no further need for you to keep trying to
attack Trump's female adversary in the US presidential
race. It's over. You got what you wanted.
Now enjoy!

Cheers.

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Dear Banjo and Paul,

There are so many lessons we can learn from the US
presidential race. Let us hope that our politicians are
paying attention.

I dare say there will be more lessons to come out of all
this for us all.

Be care ful what you wish for.

America will learn this the hard way.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 7:46:07 AM
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Banjo says Kamala is a good guy
Foxy concurs.
I show two of the myriad examples proving Kamala is far from a good guy.
Foxy throws a tantrum - she doesn't like having her cherished fantasies exposed as mere fantasies.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 8:54:12 AM
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