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Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 11:05:08 AM
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Earlier JD wrote: "The courts found that the footage was deceptively edited to create a misleading narrative. "
Now he admits the courts said no such thing and somehow in his idiocy thinks that proves him right!! What a fool. So to try to back up his idiocy he links to Planned Parenthood claiming that the footage was edited. The people accused of selling body parts says the tape is deceptive. Wow, how convincing is that!!. What a fool. I note that nowhere has JD denied that body parts were being sold. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 11:12:13 AM
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Mhaze,
I agreed that the court case was about illegal taping. Being someone who is more interested in deflecting and character assassination, however, you ride the ultimately insignificant error for all it’s worth. Would you like me to dwell on every instance you’ve misspoken here? It still makes no difference, by the way. //So to try to back up his idiocy he links to Planned Parenthood claiming that the footage was edited.// “Personally I try to never evaluate the message based upon the messenger. I prefer to look at the actual data.” - mhaze (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10452#362839) Hypocrite. That was only one of the links, by the way. //I note that nowhere has JD denied that body parts were being sold.// It was strongly implied a couple of times when I referred to this claim as a mere conspiracy theory. You are yet to provide any evidence for your claim. Posted by John Daysh, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 11:44:18 AM
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Donald trump is more than just a sideshow. He's a
crooked buffoon and he's getting weirder and worse. Cruel, creepy, and corrupt. Republicans got what they wanted in Trump. Now they risk being destroyed by it. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 11:50:24 AM
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“David Muir is not listed as having a party affiliation.
He has moderated several Democratic and Republican Presidential debates. He has been on the forefront of major political coverage and has interviewed a plethora of prominent people. His reputation is well known as an experienced journalist and moderator. Linsey Davis is also experienced in presidential debates and elections. She does not share any political beliefs on air or on social media. She often covers both sides of politics.” Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 9:57:23 AM And how do you know this, Foxy? You usually bend over backwards to supply “proof” of your claims. Why not this time? The potted history of both these characters is meaningless to whether or not they are Democrats. So, how about telling us how you know they are not. “Not listed” as having a party affiliation means nothing Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 11:59:38 AM
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JD, ya berk, there's a massive difference between evaluating a case based on the evidence and treating the claims of the accused as evidence.
BTW, when Planned Parenthood officials were put under oath they admitted to altering their methods so they could get undamaged body parts to sell. http://tiny.cc/uifmzz But JD, who always falls for the official line, won't accept that. As George Costanza said "It's not a lie if you believe it". Now JD is claiming butt-hurt because I point out that his claims about the courts were all falsified. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 18 September 2024 12:12:13 PM
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Still dangling there by that last thread of irrelevance and deflection, I see.
You’re right in that the court case was about illegal taping, but that doesn’t change the fact that multiple sources - including news organisations and independent analysts - found the footage to be misleading.
The point I made about timing was in response to your claim, but I’m not shifting the goalposts here. Whether the full footage was released concurrently or later doesn’t change the fact that the edited version was cut to fit a specific narrative. That’s the issue you keep dodging.
Since you’re apparently incapable of searching the internet yourself, here you go:
http://www.mediamatters.org/planned-parenthood/comprehensive-guide-deceptively-edited-videos-used-against-planned-parenthood
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/anti-abortion-group-admits-to-falsifying-latest-video
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video
The findings were reviewed by multiple sources, including Forensic Science Analysis Firm Fusion GPS, which confirmed that key parts of the conversations were omitted to misrepresent the actual content.
So, instead of continuing to dodge with technicalities about what the court case was about, maybe acknowledge the reality: the videos were deliberately edited to mislead, regardless of when the unedited footage was released.