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Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 September 2024 6:11:00 AM
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No Paul, it is all just so sad. The gun lobby in the US is just stupid
but the Islamist activity on the same trend just gives good examples of what you can do. The kid in this case does not seem to have any religious inclinations as far as I have seen, but could be inspired while totally ignorant of Islam. His father has also been charged with murder for allowing access. He was later than the six Hamas victims but some sickos could be inspired to play the game. Posted by Bezz, Friday, 6 September 2024 3:54:57 PM
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Bezz,
To say; "but could be inspired while totally ignorant of Islam." True, but as equally true he could be inspired by the fairies at the bottom of the garden. Extremist will look for a common denominator as the focus for their actions, in the case you highlight at every opportunity the Islamic religion is a focal point, a common denominator for those who in their view are seeking justice. The root cause is often economic. One example is Ireland where Catholics seen themselves oppressed by a dominant group who happen to be Protestant. It was not a religious conflict at all, although outwardly it seem so, it was an economic war between two groups who happen to have a distinction which embraced religion. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 September 2024 4:56:37 PM
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The problem with Islam is that the Koran which calls in many verses
for the killing of Jews and at times Christians. It is not just an historical thing it is preached today. That is the difference that makes all the difference. One verse tells moslems to not take non believers as friends. Is that a way to run a community in Australia ? Posted by Bezz, Friday, 6 September 2024 11:51:47 PM
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Hi Bezz,
I've asked you several times to state what section of the Koran, calls for the killing of Jews and Christians. I'm not asking because I want to defend Islam, far from it, but as I freely admit not being familiar with that text I approach this with an open mind, do you? I suspect, like the Christian Bible, there is much left to ones own interpretation, and the interpretation of the "theological elite" to be passed down to the ignorant. It often astounds me with Christian people, friends, people I would consider intelligent and rational, they are so easily taken in by what in my opinion is nothing more that old codswallop! Its like talking to Einstein who is factually and rationally explaining to you his 'Theory Of Relativity', then he suddenly makes the ridiculous statement; "You know its all the work of the great toad!".... "What are you saying Albert?".... "Yes sunny, the great toad done it all!"...."Sorry Albert you just lost me". That's what organised religion is like, the great toad theory. p/s I also suspect some of my Christian friends know its old codswallop, but to be accepted in the group, they go along with it all, as its the thing to do to be accepted. Maybe there are those adherents to Islam who are much the same. But with people who are basically ignorant, they'll believe anything you tell them. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 September 2024 6:57:51 AM
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http://quran.com/al-baqarah/191
Kill them wherever you come upon them1 and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution2 is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers. This is interesting- Bob the Builder at Hyde Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iGd_DqhP1g&pp=ygUdYm9iIGh5ZGUgcGFyayBzcGVha2VycyBjb3JuZXI%3D http://www.youtube.com/@bobofspeakerscorner1099/videos Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 7 September 2024 10:55:47 AM
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Bezz, are you trying to link this terrible tragedy to Muslim terrorists in some way? In fact with far right nut jobs wanting less gun control, as in US then shootings like this become far more common. The Shooters and Hooters Party in Australia advocate for US style gun laws.