There is nothing to discuss, only opinions to be aired. Referring to the opinions of people and institutions outside of OLO is meaningless. References to opinions other than your own do not make your opinions any stronger or weaker; right or wrong.

If you, just for example, are of the opinion that I am an arsehole, dredging up references to everyone else who also thinks that I am an arsehole won't make your opinion any stronger or more valid. And it won't stop me from being an arsehole no matter how much people "discuss" the opinion.

Finally, the thing that really pisses me off about the use 'references' is that they obviously back up the user's opinion, or b) that's where she got the idea in the first place. Pointless! If you want to agree or disagree with the source, tell them about it. You are not going to change anyone's opinion here.

Kudos ttbn.

Some irony, a bit unsavoury, but there you go-

I think if Paul1405's cultural giant was labelled "arsethrottle" he or some proxy would make a great show of being offended.

Paul1405 seemingly calls the great western philosopher Aristotle "arsethrottle" presumably in order to support his argument.

So it seems that we can't avoid Paul1405's orifices...

Maybe he is using a different orifice to express/ impress himself, does he do the same when he eats? Does Foxy do the same in support of her political ally? Do others within his philosophical sphere see this particular orifice when they see the world. Do people of Paul1405's philosophy "eat" from these orifices. The world through the eyes of different orifices, this seems to be the world of Paul1405. What an "interesting perspective" on the human condition...

"They" talk about "a race to the bottom", not sure which bottom, but it sure sounds fairly mediocre to me. Cheers to mediocrity and to Paul1405's orifices!

Woke Marxist's also seem to see the world through a similar orifice to Paul1405. It has been called "the philosophy of envy" and "a race to mediocrity" (or is it bottom). It seems the solution to the problem might be for Paul1405 and Woke Marxist's to input and output through different orifices. And maybe the world won't be sprayed.

But what about the freedom of those that see that they have a right to spray and/or to be sprayed, those that see the virtue or not of the spray. To restrict someones spray could be seen as a form of tyranny, a repression, a blockage (there should be some medicine for this condition). Maybe there is the right of some to spray more than others, the "intersectional" spray. Different sprays might be appropriate to different cultures. Could some stockpile sprays as ammunition, perhaps take a different diet (maybe vegetarian), this could be done on a whole of cultural mobilization.

Maybe if we all were more careful and self regulated our orifices, careful of what we put in our orifices, what we put in the orifices of others, what orifices we get the material from that we give to others, what orifices are appropriate to different cultural contexts, what we accept from others orifices, the world would be a better place.

In a world of orifices, is the biggest orifice the king? Would you still want to be?

It's interesting that different orifices have different levels of sophisticated control than others, just like people.

Given that "Paul1405 seems to love to talk about orifices", in a purely intellectual way, I wait with bated (or baited) breath for his next Aristotle "arsethrottle installment". (I'll probably need to hold my breath after the installment too.)

http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/bated-breath-vs-baited-breath/

This orifice debate is starting to give me the willies !

Wow! It must be a full Moon, The dogs are howling! The lads are beside themselves with repugnant indignation. Our very own Three Stooges at it again, one old fella wants Chalmers sacked for some perceived insult of his latest folk hero Dud Dutton, what happened to your love for Corny Banana? He's shocked when a religious nut job, a Brian Pickering, tells him about the evils of Muslims through his ultra right sin sheet the 'Daily Deceleration'. He also shocked that the black fellas of Africa are breeding faster than fly's in a cow pat. Backed up by number two, a refo himself on welfare who thinks they are all heading for Australia. The Kudos Kid kicks in with more of his diatribe, his cracked record of Woke/Marxists, I think he's a Marxists himself, probably Groucho, certainly not Harpo, never shuts up with his favourite subject of Marxists/Communists, they out there like them fly's and refos. There can't be much going on down Alabama way, he's constantly posting extended nonsense on OLO. Besides Daffy and Donald, do any other ducks read his nonsense? Me thinks not!

Hi Paul,

I'm doing more reading on Peter Dutton. Trying to better
understand the opposition leader. Frankly I have to admit
how his controversial career seems to have registered
little with the general public.

As someone said, "I know f-all about him." "Seems pretty
boring. I miss ScoMo. He had personality."

Dutton, to many, even in Queensland is not known from the
proverbial bar of soap. Some others said, "I know of him.
Ex-cop - right?"

I guess his unsmiling face on the 6pm news or hearing his
monotone - doesn't make people see him as Australia's
saviour. The new glasses do help.

However, I suppose that beating Labor is more important than
popularity. And we need to remember that John Howard at many
times during his career was also deeply unpopular.

It will be interesting to see prior to the election next
year how Dutton's is seen by the general public.

Will it be a case of - "Make Australia afraid again?"

Must we have our own Trump moment for Peter Dutton
to become Prime Minister?

Only time will tell.

Voters usually get it right in the end.