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Joe Biden - stay or go?

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There has been ongoing discussion about the future of Joe Biden as leader of the Democrats following his abysmal recent performance when debating former US President Donald Trump.

There have been discussions to if Joe Biden has dementia and quite frankly I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case - and of course he's not going to admit if he really has it of course.

For me he's not up to job and any further stuff ups in terms of forgetting something or getting a name wrong will only add to the current media and political circus. Joe Biden needs to go.

Some have come out saying re this issue we shouldn't 'generalise' about dementia. Well those people about thinking about the future of other people's lives.

One website says about this case and coming across as forgetful: "They may be tired or jet-lagged, they may have had a glass of wine, they may have an infection, or they may just not have a very good grasp of the topic being discussed."

http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/blog/donald-trump-joe-biden-dementia

Well if the above are your problems, I'd question if you should stand for President in the U.S dementia or not.

My post will come across as unpopular and ageist, but if Joe Biden doesn't step down - we face Donald Trump getting in and he won't have to face any serious competition. If Joe Biden stays on Donald Trump will easily be the winner.
Posted by NathanJ, Friday, 12 July 2024 2:26:00 PM
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Hi Nathan,

Joe Biden's past record of achievements should be
acknowledged. However, I also feel strongly that he
should step aside prior to the Democratic Convention.
He should go out with dignity and respect - but in this
case - put his country first.

The re-election of Donald Trump is simply something that
should not be allowed to happen.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 July 2024 4:10:02 PM
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Our problem is Joe Biden junior - aka Arsehole Albanese.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about America's President, mainly from US-haters, when we have our own problems with our worst Prime Minister ever.

Even SkyNews is obsessed with the poor old idiot, Biden.

Leave American politics to Americans. Face up to our own problems with our dropkick PM, who is doing nothing about our defence and security for the time when President Donald Trump starts telling us to look after ourselves, and stop bludging off America, while sucking up to China, as AA is.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 14 July 2024 9:32:25 AM
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"All Trump has to do is hold his nerve as Joe Biden takes himself down." (Anon)
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:00:46 AM
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Biden on Monday... " “It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye.”

Trump shot...

http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIF.egWehX1UJd39VLIE%252fHNbnw%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=6e1b70ce0bc899481cab212fbad1261f1b6017a6e395bb81a6d3109ae6e8bda0&ipo=images
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 July 2024 11:12:44 AM
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Hi Foxy,
"The re-election of Donald Trump is simply something that should not be allowed to happen."
- Well that's a win for tolerance and democracy right?
People who think just like you decided to take the matter into their own hands.
I'm guessing you'd be supportive of their gun-toting efforts?
Guns are great aren't they when it's a cause you support right?
I bet the only thing you're upset about is that they missed.

Now things really are going to get interesting.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 14 July 2024 11:31:32 AM
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Armchair Critic,

I'm not a supporter of violence. I do not support
the policies of the Israeli Government. I do not
support Putin's invasion of the Ukraine. And having
lived and worked in the United States - where I witnessed
so much vi9olence, I do not support violence in any
form. And, as
US President Joe Biden said - what happened to
former US President Donald Trump - "It's sick."
All of us should condemn this action.
I do. And I'm sure that you must also. Being the civil
person that you obviously are from your posts. Who teaches
us so much about love and peace on this forum.

http://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/trump-rally-shooting-biden-delivers-remarks.html
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 11:45:11 AM
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J.D Vance: "The Central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donal Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric lead directly to Trump's attempted assassination.

Congressman Mike Collins stating 'Joe Biden sent the orders'

Steve Scalise: "For weeks Democrat leaders have been fueling ludicrous hysteria that Donald Trump winning re-election would be the end of democracy in America..... This incendiary rhetoric must stop."

Steve Miller: "The entire campaign message of the Democratic Party has been the vile and monstrous lie that Trump and the GOP are trying to end democracy. This mammoth lie... This terrible hate and defamation must stop."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 14 July 2024 12:00:40 PM
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Sad to see people spouting more division and hate
More usual tactics from Trump supporters of more lies,
misconceptions, accusations, and - "fake news."
Inciting violence ends in violence.
Sad that America has come to this.
More calm rhetoric is badly needed. Hopefully we won't now
see an attempt on President Biden's life.

Violence and guns.

The land of the Free and the Brave?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 12:26:48 PM
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America badly needs a leader who will unite
not divide.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 12:28:20 PM
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The Democrats from Biden on down have been saying for years that Trump is basically Hitler. Now they are all rushing to say how relieved they are that he survived the left's attempt to assassinate him.

If you really believed he was Hitler you wouldn't be relieved he is still alive. You would have cheered his death.

They are hypocrites from Biden through Harris and on down.

The bullet missed killing Trump by millimetres. Divine intervention?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 July 2024 2:36:52 PM
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What America needs right now is calm not ramping
up more division and hate. Is the country capable
of change? We shall have to wait and see. Trump
supporters will milk this for all it's worth.
Which won't achieve anything productive. Trump
will probably print t-shirts with "I will survive,"
written on them and give a full blown picture
of him with blood on his ear and face,
and sell the t-shirts at a lucrative price. He's
not one to pass by a business opp.

On the plus side- perhaps this may make some voters
see - the kind of leader that Trump will really be.
Does America need more violence and gun-mentality?
More shootings in churches, schools, and now
campaign rallies? More access to guns?

More incitement in photo ops, in rallies, more stirring,
More fist displays?
More manipulation?

Will America see the world's reaction to this vile
act - from world leaders -and people - and take heed?

Or will it continue to finger-point and stir even more?

Expect retaliation to follow. Even a war - between the
sides. Things can get worse.

And what we post in discussion forums does matter.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 3:54:34 PM
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As for Divine intervention?

Divine intervention would have been - instead of getting
shot in the ear - he got shot in his throat and was silenced
forever.

The intervention in this case was not Divine - but came from
the other guy.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 4:03:42 PM
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Perhaps the shot at the top of Trump's ear was Divine
Intervention after all and was a
warning to listen to his advisers - instead of
ignoring them and thinking only of himself -
and doing only - whatever he wants.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 4:12:31 PM
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Foxy, you do realise that Trump was the victim here, don't you? Or is the sickness in your Trump Derangement Syndrome heart so all-pervasive that even that simple truth eludes you?
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 July 2024 4:17:19 PM
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Trump standing there, bloody-faced but triumphantly raising his fist, reminded me of another great president who also survived an assassination attempt.

This happened two months later...watch 'til the end (its only a minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_jNTdGDezw
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 July 2024 4:41:01 PM
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mhaze,

I don't have TDS. I've overcome it by fantasizing that
I'm him. It worked wonders.

I imagined that I had endless gorgeous men throwing themselves
at me. With my equally gorgeous husband by my side. I imagined
living in a gigantic Tower glittering with gold - that bears my
name. I imagined the sprawling Florida beachfront resort
stashed with my favorite classified documents. I imagined
stadiums full of adoring fans - how am I doing so far?
See TDS - gone.

Trump a victim?

http://www.fox4news.com/news/trump-shooting-tshirts-online-sale
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 5:17:39 PM
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mhaze,

I prefer these American moments of raised fists:

http://www.history.com/news/black-athletes-raise-fists-1968-olympics
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 July 2024 6:03:03 PM
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"I prefer these American moments of raised fists:"

Of course you do.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:04:49 AM
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mhaze,

Whatever stirs our hearts, souls, and minds -
instead of our pockets.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:57:49 AM
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Foxy said "US President Joe Biden said - what happened to former US President Donald Trump - "It's sick.""

Answer- Yes finally Biden has shown some goodwill to Trump. I think we'll need to see a lot more of that before we can trust that Biden is negotiating in good faith.

Foxy said "Inciting violence ends in violence. Sad that America has come to this. More calm rhetoric is badly needed."

Answer- The Woke / Marxist's have been the ones inciting violence, and ignoring the interests of the public, wagging the dog, Ad Hominem/ Ad Hitlerum attacks.

Foxy said "What America needs right now is calm not ramping up more division and hate. Is the country capable of change?"

Answer- In this case the 'never Trump's' seem to be the ones ramping up the division and hate. And Foxy is challenging the MAGA Trump's to change. Victim blaming again. You can't negotiate with Marxist's that are not willing to negotiate- all you can do is BATNA (Best Alternative To a Negotiated Outcome) ie. walk away. Sometimes you have to wait for the entity to come back to the table when they have a more realistic vision. I believe that Marxist's and Woke have been negotiating in bad faith. They still have power to attack the foundations of America, and their may not be much others can do to prevent it. All that Traditionalist's can do is minimise business with the Marxist/ Woke and keep interactions within their own circle as much as they can- a nation within a nation.

Foxy said "Does America need more violence and gun-mentality?"

Answer- In the case of the Trump shooting, and collateral damage, it appears that it's the Woke/ Marxist's in the media, universities, etc that have given out the 'gun license". And they are the ones that are supposedly against gun crime. It's Orwell's Ministry Of Truth all over again!
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 3:17:00 PM
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Foxy said "Expect retaliation to follow. Even a war - between the sides. Things can get worse."

Answer- Is this a veiled threat of violence from Foxy? Traditionalist's have been expecting things to get worse for a while as the descendants of US founders have become disenfranchised from themselves. The Declaration defines when the government goes to war against it's people. Yes there may be a war, there have been skirmishes in Seattle, Portland, California, and many other states. The Democrats and insurgents within appear to have created this conflict.

Foxy said "Divine intervention would have been - instead of getting shot in the ear - he got shot in his throat and was silenced forever. "

Answer- Foxy seems to be saying that 'the good (the divine) would have been done if Trump was dead'. Very concerning and probably incitement.

Foxy said "Whatever stirs our hearts, souls, and minds - instead of our pockets."

Answer- I think that Foxy is stirred by The Communist Raven.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexpionage

"In the Soviet Union, female agents assigned to use such tactics were referred to as swallows, while male ones were known as ravens. A commonly known type of sexpionage is a honey trap operation, which is designed to compromise an opponent sexually[1]: 230  to elicit information from that person."
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 3:17:35 PM
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Trump said:

"I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who
have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution."

4 Corners aired a program last night (15 July 2024, 8.25 pm)
as part of a two part series - "Retribution: The battle for
democracy."

It told us that:

"There has never been a US president like Donal Trump and now
he's back this time with a detailed plan for his second
coming. Nearly 4 years after he was cast out by voters and
accused of encouraging the American people to assault their
own democracy with the attack on the US Capitol."

"The now convicted criminal wants to rebuild the country in
his own image."

"Ahead of the US election in November 4 Corners reporter
Mark Willacy travels to Washington for the first of a
special 2 part series. He sits down with White House insiders
who witnessed the chaos of Trump's first term."

"Some who continue to support his vision, and others Trump
now considers "Traitors." Trump wants to re-shape the pillars
of American Democracy and give himself more power. Willacy
goes inside "Project 2025" the blueprint for a 2nd Trump
term and the army of recruits ready to carry out his orders."

" Meanwhile, strategy, security, and defence experts warn of
the impact another Trump presidency could have on America's
institutions, it's democracy, and the rest of the world."

" Opponents warn Project 2025 will put political stooges in
key decision making positions, empower the former president
to prosecute his political enemies and set the US on a path
to authoritarianism."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-16/trump-project-2025-plan-us-election-four-corners/104015688

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-15/retribution----the-battle-for-democracy/104100874
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 10:55:44 AM
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We're told that the one thing that blew the mind of
Mark Willacy as he attended a Trump rally in New Jersey
was the "cult-like" fervour from Republicans. We're told
there was merchandise, an alarmingingly negative reception
to media, and wild claims from the candidate himself.

There was the antipathy, the hatred, and the bile towards
any perceived criticism or calls for toning things down,
for calm. It's obvious if you're not for Donald Trump -
you're a Marxist, a communist, a "sparrow" a mortal
enemy. Sound familiar?

An unnerving atmosphere.

Do we really want to encourage this on our shores? We know
that many have copied what America has done in the past -
but should we really copy this type of behaviour and bring
it to our shores?

Make America Great Again? No. May God Help America.
She need it so badly now.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:08:47 AM
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Hi Bezza,

The race for the White House is no longer a competition
over policy as it used to be, but rather a cult or
personality that's driven some Americans to take
their views to the extreme.

Former US President Trump's Presidency was defined by
division and chaos and fuelled an under current of
hate and anger that still exists and continues to
manifest.

Plenty in power have helped conspiracy theories along
with dangerous rhetoric into online discussions and
chat forums and social media channels.

Toning down the rhetoric?

One can only hope. Sadly, it probably will be more of the
same from both sides of politics.

All any of us can do is pray for a miracle.
Because what the end result will be in America will
affect us all world-wide.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 10:53:35 PM
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'An unnerving atmosphere'.

You mean just like the one Hillary whipped up in 2016?
Calling all the Trump supporters deplorables?
And women running around cult-like all wearing pussy hats?
Yeah I remember Foxy.

I'd say Team Hillary started it, and now you lefties can wallow in the shite you created, no offense intended.

"Plenty in power have helped conspiracy theories along
with dangerous rhetoric into online discussions and
chat forums and social media channels.

Toning down the rhetoric?"

I've been hearing a lot of this talk.

Scared little university chumps demanding people tone down the dangerous rhetoric and blaming Elon Musk again for allowing the spread of misinformation and disinformation.

'We must control the minds of the peasantry'

'How dare those human beings think and act like human beings?'
- 'This is unacceptable'.

I'm so sick of being 'influenced' by a nanny state.
These oxygen thieves need to shut their noise holes.
I wish they would stop telling people what and how to think.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:20:47 PM
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Hi AC,

Let me see if I understand what you're saying.
So you don't agree that plenty in power have helped
conspiracy theories along with dangerous rhetoric into
online discussions and char forums and social media
channels and you don't approve of toning down the rhetoric
that it's an abuse of your freedoms. That more of the
same is OK?

That Trump's presidency was not defined by division and
chaos and fuelled an under current of hate and anger that
still exists and continues to manifest?

Okkkkay.

Thanks for sharing and as usual letting us know how much
you value democracy and the protection of freedoms.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:32:25 AM
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Conspiracy theories
- Does anyone care that I'm open-minded about the existence of dogman?
http://northamericancryptids.com/the-michigan-dogman/
I doubt anyone would care.

But if I believed the government was complicit in something, then that might be a 'dangerous conspiracy theory' right?
I think most Americans accept their own government was complicit in the murder of JFK.
And the U.S. is certainly not afraid of using political violence to their own advantage in their foreign policy, so whats the big deal?

If people wish to entertain crazy and even ridiculous possibilities of what might've 'really' happened, then that's just human beings being human beings.

If I wish to say that the cause of climate change is migratory patterns of the pigs which fly backwards to Antarctica each season and their dung is causing harm and melting leading to a reduction in the size of the antarctic ice sheet... then who on earth even cares?
- It's not like I'm not allowed to say it, even if it is ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

>>Xenu also called Xemu, is a figure in the Church of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology", a sacred and esoteric teaching. According to the "Technology", Xenu was the extraterrestrial ruler of a "Galactic Confederacy" who brought billions of his people to Earth (then known as "Teegeeack") in DC-8-like spacecraft 75 million years ago, stacked them around volcanoes, and killed them with hydrogen bombs. Official Scientology scriptures hold that the thetans (immortal spirits) of these aliens adhere to humans, causing spiritual harm.<<

- Crazy enough for you?

'Dangerous rhetoric'
You mean people just speculating about world events?

Social media.
If you think that something someone said is stupid, you're free to say so.
You don't have to listen to what anyone says, you can get your own account and post things and others will also be free to not listen to anything you say.

I just don't get the big nanny ideal that people need to change who they are and how they think to suit someone else's mold.

Saying ridiculous things isn't a crime.
If it was the entire population would be in jail.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 11:55:22 AM
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Hi Foxy,

'democracy and the protection of freedoms'.

Can you please tell me just exactly what the hell you're talking about 'democracy' and 'protection of freedoms'?
What do you even mean exactly?

I'd like to know if there's any actual common sense in the mind of a trump hater, or is it just all emotion based because you've been told the earth may get swallowed up by the sun if Trump wins?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 11:59:34 AM
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I support Trump on the basis the Biden administration can't change course in Ukraine.
They need a new administration who can stop the war, and maybe start going in a different direction
Trump may do so, he can stop they war and act like he brought peace.
- A U.S victory, even though they started it.
Trumps unpredictable, but the Biden administration can't change course, and we need need a change or course.

But Trump can't fix all of America's problems, I think he will make some of them worse, or the Democrats will hamper any legislation that mite help the country.

If they are in a bad way now, then democracy will destroy what's left of it with increasing debt, infighting, division, hamstrung governments that won't be able to change things.

They're in a democratic downward spiral.
They probably actually need a dictator to save them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:13:56 PM
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500 million guns in America.
That's 2 for every man and 1 each for ladies and kids.
Question: is a new U.S Civil War preferable to WWIII?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:19:30 PM
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Armchair Critic,

A Civil War?

Nah. Trump is going to re-shape the pillars of American
Democracy and give himself more power. "Project 2025" is
the blueprint for a 2nd Trump term and the army of
recruits ready to carry out his orders.

Strategy, Security, and Defence experts warn of the impact
another Trump presidency could have on America's institutions, its democracy and the rest of the world.

They stress that "Project 2025" will put political stooges in
key decision making positions, empower the former president to
prosecute his political enemies and set the US on a
path to authoritarianism.

There's more at:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-15/retribution---the-battle-for-democracy/104100874

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-16/trump-project-2025-plan-us-election-four-corners/104015688
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:55:57 PM
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Biden's comment about putting Trump in the bullseye was pretty stupid imo. politicians need to be more careful with their words, especially now. both sides need to chill out a bit
Posted by scarletred, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 3:55:11 PM
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"They stress that "Project 2025" will put political stooges in
key decision making positions, empower the former president to
prosecute his political enemies and set the US on a
path to authoritarianism."

Well that's exactly what the Democrats have done already, word for word.
They're just paranoid Trump may replace their Democrat leaning stooges with his Republican leaning stooges.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 4:58:54 PM
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Armchair Critic,

The Republican Party no longer exists. It's now the
Trump Party. There has never been a US President like
Donald Trump and now he's back this time with a detailed
plan for his second coming.

We shall have to wait and see what the results will be
after November 5th. America will decide what it wants.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 11:08:00 PM
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'Strategy, Security, and Defence experts warn of the impact'
- Are they the same people whose foreign policy is SUICIDE

Watch this and try to see the bigger picture.

THE NATO SUICIDE SQUAD WANTS WORLD WAR THREE
http://www.youtube.com/live/DZW060yZRq8

"The Republican Party no longer exists. It's now the Trump Party."
- I keep asking you people this:

Don't you LOVE democracy?
I thought you people said it was the best system in the world?
Either it is, or it isn't?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, you know.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:15:18 AM
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President Joe Brainfart: "The only thing age brings a little wisdom, and I think I've demonstrated that I know how to get things done for the country, in spite of the fact they told we couldn't get it done, but there's more to do - and I'm reluctant to walk away from that."

http://youtu.be/BjoZI1Ryrrc?t=175

You want to know how Trump won the debate Foxy?
He had to constrain himself and not be a jerk.
- He simply had to let President Joe Boat-Anchor speak.

Looks like Shiffs giving him the nudge, Biden might be gone in a week or so
I'm not sure who will replace him, maybe this was their plan, have Presidente Brainfarte bumble through only to be replaced with a last minute non-Trump option?
Because right now Bidens unelectable, and the Democrats will lose everything clinging to this sinking ship.

And all the Trump hating Republicans have suddenly become good loyal little tapeworms again, all for their own political interests.
Nikki Haley has endorsed Trump as Republican nominee.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:32:00 AM
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Armchair Critic,

I can respect people with strong opinions and beliefs,
even if they differ from my own. However, I do have
problems tolerating those who reject reality when it
doesn't fit their world view or because they're too
comfortable or too lazy to engage in independent
thinking.

For those reasons I'm out. Your views are too extreme and
narrow and I have no further wish to argue with you.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:50:06 AM
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People have different definitions of an extremist.

It's all how you define the term - and where you
draw the lines.

For me you've crossed the lines with your recent postings.

That's why I'm out.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 18 July 2024 10:57:12 AM
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I'm extreme?
I think both sides of politics are about on par with the mad hatters tea party.
- AND I'M THE ONLY SANE ONE THAT NOTICES.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2024 2:01:00 PM
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I've seen the recent attack on the former President Donald Trump and following that comments from Joe Biden showing sympathy towards Donald Trump.

However he hasn't been that nice before essentially calling Donald Trump a terrible, evil person etc.

I can therefore hardly take such comments seriously - you either like the guy or you don't.

I think it would have been better to maintain a firm stance against Donald Trump, state you don't support gun violence against anyone and that you would be introducing a whole array of new gun laws and restrictions if elected.

I doubt that would have happened when you sit on the fence though on such an issue. So, Joe Biden in my view is a weak leader, old and must move on.

Finally, it has been announced today that Joe Biden has COVID-19 and is not well. Another reason to step down and let someone else take over. The Democrats need the time to promote a new candidate without baggage.
Posted by NathanJ, Thursday, 18 July 2024 2:48:02 PM
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America was bound to fall behind.
They never moved over to metric.

Failure to convert: why the United States still uses Imperial measurement
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/the-metric-system-housing-markets-inflation-and-paying-for-roads-we-answer-your-questions-to-kick-off-2021-1.5859911/failure-to-convert-why-the-united-states-still-uses-imperial-measurement-1.5859929
'The story of Fahrenheit versus Celsius is a story of colonialism, industry and stubbornness'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 18 July 2024 7:44:45 PM
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.

Dear NathanJ,

.

You ask :

« Joe Biden - stay or go? »
.

In my view, NathanJ, nobody over the age of 70 should be allowed to become president of any country.

That, of course, would exclude both Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

.
Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 20 July 2024 8:22:25 AM
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I watched Trump's speech at the Republican National
Convention yesterday. It started out well - but then
he reverted to his old tactics of taking credit for
things to which he wasn't entitled - and once again
dealing in fear, untruths, and distortions. His supporters
lapping it all up despite the bizarre claims and telling
people how he would save America by building a huge dome.
He even once again included Hannibal Lecter.

Really, really, "aging showmanship" stuff.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 9:47:47 AM
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Make America Great Again?

DDHG!

Don't Destroy Her Greatness!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 9:53:30 AM
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Dear Banjo,

American politics has certainly taken a turn for the worst.
President Biden has started to react to Trump's insults
with jokes of his own.

Remember when Trump was trying to deal with COVID?

He suggested injecting a little bleach into your veins?

Biden said in a recent rally :

" Trump missed.

It all went to his hair."

Then at a rally in Dallas Biden said how a defeated looking
guy came up to him and said:

"Mr President, I need your help. I'm being crushed with debt.
I'm completely wiped out."

To which Biden had to say:

"Donald, I can't help you."
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 11:03:51 AM
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It's kinda funny, but only in a sad way.
Trump made 4 billion of Truth Social after the left witchhunted him off Twitter.

http://www.propublica.org/article/trump-media-stock-sale-shares-truth-social-yorkville-advisors
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 20 July 2024 12:36:48 PM
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Some seem to believe that Trump will be the
kind of leader that will curl their hair and
make their arse whistle. Charlie Sheen believed
that about some of his females.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 4:41:04 PM
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Ah look truth finally comes out.
- It's good to be right, and everyone else was smoking the Ukrainian horse crap.

Years of miscalculations by U.S., NATO led to dire shell shortage in Ukraine
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-artillery/

"A decade of strategic, funding and production mistakes played a far greater role in the shell shortage than did the recent U.S. congressional delays of aid, Reuters found."

Preliminary Lessons from Ukraine’s Offensive Operations, 2022–23
http://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/special-resources/preliminary-lessons-ukraines-offensive-operations-2022-23

"The most serious error made in planning by Ukraine appears to have been the basis on which it was determined that the main effort could succeed under these circumstances. Rather than using tempo and concentration to defeat six Russian regiments, it was hoped that shock action would cause Russian troops to break, as had occurred around Kharkiv in 2022. Insufficient planning was done to assess how the critical conditions for such a collapse in morale could be achieved, so that this proved an overly optimistic planning assumption. In the event, the initial attacks failed, and tempo was lost, such that Russia could fight the battle with the full 105,000 troops it had in the target sector."

'it was hoped that shock action would cause the Russian troops to break'
- So basically there whole entire counteroffensive was based on the premise that opposing forces would run away.
JUST AS I STATED AT THE TIME.

And you people are willing to send your kids and grandkids to fight under the aptitude of U.S war planners?

I told you, their foreign policy is suicide.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 21 July 2024 3:55:19 AM
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"We have been reviewing the economics behind continuing
United States support to Ukraine, and even setting aside
the terrible human suffering amidst thousands of civilian
deaths, the fact that helping Ukraine defend itself
in saving millions of lives and forestalling World War III
given Putin's imperial ambitions: as well as the diplomatic
and national security value of such aid, in actuality, the
US is the single biggest winner from supporting Ukraine."

Here are the reasons why:

http://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/what-the-us-has-to-gain-from-supporting-ukraine#:
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 21 July 2024 11:44:28 AM
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OMG I cant believe you posted that Foxy.
Let me explain something to you, just because someone went to Uni, doesn't mean they're not an idiot.
Firstly the articles dated.

"90% of Ukraine aid spending stays in the U.S., creating thousands of jobs"

- Sales pitch number 1: 'Dead Ukrainians are great for our economy'
True, and might be acceptable if an American thinks 'Well I benefit so it's ok'
- But for anyone else - dubious moral grounds

"The Ukraine conflict has revitalized NATO, lessening the relative economic burden on the U.S."

- Well that's not true.
It's making US arms manufacturers richer but not made Europe safer.
Finlands in NATO now, they have to pay 2% GDP, they also have to build 11 NATO military bases at their own expense, and in response Russia has placed a new army on it's border, which forces them to place an army of their own to counter it.
Huge expense, would've been better to stay neutral, now they have nukes aimed at them.
Look at Orban try to make peace in Ukraine and European US lapdogs going insane, NATOs fracturing.
And Turkey's going to join BRICS after decades of waiting for the EU, which means Turkey will no longer be a part of NATO, so they'lllose their southern flank.

'Russian military might has been severely degraded without a single active duty American military casualty'

- No it hasn't.
Just like in the US for WWII, war has revitalised the Russian economy.
Ukrainians military is shrinking, they're dying faster than they can be replaced, where the Russian military is growing, they're taking new recruits at a greater level than their losses, and the article I already showed you shows how Russian military industrial output is unmatched by the combined west.
The vacuum left by the exodus of western companies allowed Russia to fill those gaps itself and be all Russian.
The US sanctions and asset confiscations against Russian oligarchs has forced them to invest their money at home.
The war has unified the country, and pushed Russia and China closer together.

http://youtu.be/wwalhvoBIGI
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 21 July 2024 4:26:16 PM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-may-arm-houthi-rebels-anti-ship-missiles-us-intel-2024-7
Russia doesn't have to target NATO bases to mess with America.
US coalition forces couldn't even manage the Houthis as it was.

Russia will arm all the US adversaries and use them as proxies against the US just as the US uses Ukraine as a proxy against Russia.

We've already seen a complete change in the geopolitical situation in the Middle east with China helping Iran and the Saudia make peace, the Saudis saying no formal agreement with Israel without a Palestinian State, and Russia now has a strategic military defense treaty with North Korea.

Mean while US can't make weapons fast enough, while China stockpiles.
These people are fools.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 21 July 2024 4:37:01 PM
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What a morning this has been.

News headlines: Biden Steps Aside. Hand-picked Kamala
Harris his Vice President as his successor.

Today's historic news will shape our world for years to come.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese made a very moving speech
acknowledging the US President's legacy.

A man who put his
country and not himself first. A man who adhered to
established rules, international laws, and honoured signed
agreements.

A man who respected the Constitution, who
believed in institutions like NATO and agreements on free
trade and in supporting allies. Who was a stable pair of
hands. A man who believed in supporting Ukraine.

A man who believed in unification not division. Who did not
have a fear of partnership and collective action. Who
encouraged the most courageous thinking. The belief that
supporting Ukraine was not just an act of courage but one
of moral obligation against the tyrannical force of Russia's
grab to restore Putin's Imperial fantasies.

It is now up to the Democrats as to who they will choose
as their nominee. Vice President Kamala Harris was a
professional prosecutor who was capable of dealing with
and pursuing sexual deviates. Trump more than qualifies.

I hope that Trump won't refuse a debate with her - should
she turn out to be the approved - chosen Democratic nominee.

It would prove to be an interesting evening.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2024 12:17:20 PM
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What a relief.

Biden has done the right thing.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2024 12:20:36 PM
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I told you 4 days ago he would be.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10438&page=0#362617

Bye bye Biden.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 22 July 2024 12:47:37 PM
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"The US President will be remembered for steering the
US to recovery and giving his party a chance to beat Trump
again."

"Joe Biden, 81, holed up at a Delaware beach house with a
bad cough after a COVID-19 diagnosis, ended his presidential
re-election campaign on Sunday,( 21st July). It was a
selfless decision that put the country's interests before
his own. "

"An act of grace that many see as vividly contrasting with the
narcissism of his opponent Donald Trump."

"It also now sets the stage for a completely different sort of
election in November as top Democrats rapidly rushed to endorse
Vice President Kamala Harris, which the President himself did."

Now things have changed.

"Now the Republicans will have to deal with issues, the lack of
policies, of mental competence, and an aging candidate."

"Although President Biden spent decades striving for the
crown, and he seriously believed he could finish the job, the
President ultimately realised that it was not about him and
never had been."

There's more at:

http://www.theguardian.com.au/us-news/article/2024/jul/21/biden-decision-drop-analysis
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2024 1:42:05 PM
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Here's the link again:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/21/biden-decision-drop-analysis
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2024 1:46:09 PM
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Trump has announced on social media that he was pulling
out of the plans for a Presidential debate that was scheduled
on September 10, which he had previously agreed to. There were
to be two Presidential debates.

Now -

There will be no more Presidential debates scheduled before
the election.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 July 2024 2:12:53 PM
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US Vice President Kamal Harris's campaign has broken
fundraising records, racking in $81 million in the
first 24 hours.

We're told that this eye-watering figure is the largest
amount of money raised in a 24 hour span in presidential
history.

There seems to be a "groundswell" of support behind the
Vice President.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 11:32:13 AM
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KAMALA - MEET THE NEW PUPPET - SAME AS THE OLD PUPPET
(From a Lefty's perspective)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RopcPpvNlWo
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 2:22:12 PM
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Support for Kamala Harris has been massive - it's
put her over the threshold needed when the Democratic
Party meets at the Chicago Convention next month.

She said when she announced her campaign for President
that she intended to go out and earn the nomination.
Apparently the Party and her support base think she
already has and can now look forward to accepting the
nomination soon.

Vice President Harris has recalled her vast experience taking
on perpetrators as a court-room prosecutor and the
Californian Attorney-General. She took on all kinds of
perpetrators. Perpetrators who abused women. Fraudsters who
ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules
for their own gain.

We should all pay attention - when she says that she knows Donald
Trump's type.

No wonder her campaign has broken fund raising records,
racking in $81 million in the first 24 hours.

Making it the largest amount of money raised in a 24 hour span
in Presidential history.

A "groundswell" of support is growing behind the Vice President.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 4:31:33 PM
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Anyone ho has been a past politician in San Franciso should be banned from government for life.

Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge - 132,562 Cases Reported In The Public Way Since 2008
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/

"By many measures, San Francisco is a world-class city. It’s a tourist mecca that boasts 25 million visitors each year. It’s home to wonders of the modern world – the Golden Gate Bridge and its iconic cable cars – as well as powerful progressive politicians, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Governor Gavin Newsom, and U.S. Senator (and presidential hopeful) Kamala Harris.

The broader San Francisco Bay Area can also claim Silicon Valley and its booming economy.

But the city itself is in trouble. Today, San Francisco hosts an estimated homeless population of 7,500 people. Affluent sections of the city have become dangerous with open-air drug use, tens of thousands of discarded needles, and, sadly, human feces.

Since 2011, there have been at least 118,352 reported instances of human fecal matter on city streets.

New mayor, London Breed, won election by promising to clean things up. However, conditions are the same or worse. Last year, the number of reports spiked to an all-time high at 28,084. In first quarter 2019, the pace continued with 6,676 instances of human waste in the public way."
Re-elect Mayor London Breed 2024
https://www.londonformayor.com/

Maybe you preferred living there surrounded in needles, homeless and feces?
There's many nicer more respectable communities in America.

US politicians spend all their time pleasing donors for money for their re-elections than actually getting anything done that benefits the people.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 12:35:22 AM
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I thought Joe showed poor leadership.
He didn't know when to step aside.
But now he has.
So that is good.
Kamala as a replacement raises questions though.
She appears more like a glitzy Tv presenter than a serious candidate.
However, there IS a sense of determination and awareness in her manner.
So, perhaps she might make the grade later.
However, I do think a formal selection procedure for the right person would be better at this time.
We should not assume Joe can automatically say who will replace him?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 6:41:00 PM
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"She appears more like a glitzy Tv presenter than a serious candidate." the other bloke appears more like a convicted criminal than a serious candidate.....sorry he is a convicted criminal and not a serious candidate, "Bugsy" Donald.

The latest opinion polls have Harris streaking ahead.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 July 2024 6:22:26 AM
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"The latest opinion polls have Harris streaking ahead."

Rubbish
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 25 July 2024 9:02:07 AM
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EXCLUSIVE: Harris leads Trump 44% to 42% in US
Presidential race. Reuters/Ipsos poll finds.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 25 July 2024 12:05:00 PM
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Hi Foxy,

As I've said before I don't much care who is American President, Trump or Harris, both simply perpetuate the elitist "American Dream" of world domination through war and exploitation. BUT, if I was forced to choose one or the other, unlike several Trumpsters on here, including mhaze, ttbn and a few others from the extreme right, I couldn't vote for their folk hero that criminal Trump.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 July 2024 1:29:20 PM
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Hi Paul,

Kamala Harris is for me the only alternative to the disaster
that is Trump.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 25 July 2024 1:46:07 PM
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"Harris leads Trump 44% to 42% in US
Presidential race. Reuters/Ipsos poll finds."

If you...well not you but if someone who was interested in the truth and was competent with numbers to grade 5 level... if such a person looked at the poll they'd see that they admitted that their 'representative' sample contained 426 Democrat voters vs. 376 Republicans and that they admitted that it was therefore invalid. If you redo the numbers to allow for the inherent bias in the poll, it shows Trump leading.

But you'll believe what you want to believe as usual.

OTOH, as I've said on many occasions, unless he wins by at least 5% he'll lose ie he'll win the vote and lose the count as in 2020.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 25 July 2024 3:04:00 PM
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The Democrats putting forward a female alternative now to replace Joe Biden, will be a challenge against Donald Trump. I'm hoping they're open to other male options - but it's unlikely.

We saw what happened to Hillary Clinton. It wasn't going to work out as people saw her as a weak leader and then of course she had baggage from her husband Bill Clinton to deal with.

If Donald Trump is elected at the next election I would not be surprised as I agree that Kamala Harris does come across as elitist and she will be seen as some as a weak female leader.

I only wish there was a true third party force in U.S politics that could take on the two party players there and get better outcomes for everyone.

In terms of mhaze and the polls out so far, I'll take them with a grain of salt for so many reasons. The only poll that counts is the final vote and those who get elected.
Posted by NathanJ, Thursday, 25 July 2024 7:27:09 PM
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Mr Trumpster Mhaze,

Only a week ago you were gloating over polls that showed your folk hero, The Dangerous Doctor Donald was leading 'Gah Gah' Joe by a similar margin to what 'Hotlips' Harris is leading The Donald, by now. Then there's; "unless he (DDD) wins by at least 5% he'll lose ie he'll win the vote and lose the count as in 2020." Yep, come Jan 6th you might have to dust off the buffalo horns and face paint outfit for another "storming of the Capitol".
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 July 2024 7:22:49 AM
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"Only a week ago you were gloating over polls that showed your folk hero, The Dangerous Doctor Donald was leading 'Gah Gah' Joe by a similar margin to what 'Hotlips' Harris is leading The Donald, by now. "

That's wrong. I've never touted opinion polls for or against Trump.

Normally I'd put the error down to Paul's horrendous memory, inability to follow the logic of a thread and out-and-out moronosity. But this time I have to just call it out as Paul straight up lying.

Lying as in having absolutely no relationship with the truth....and being proud of it.

I'd ask for a retraction but there's precisely no chance Paul would do anything approaching such an honourable thing.

As to opinion polls, there are going to be hundreds over the next few months. If you intend to believe one or t'other, you need to scrutinise it for the types of fudges I mentioned above.
Here's the thing. The Democrats intend to try to steal the election in the same way they stole 2020 by inserting enormous numbers of fake ballots into the system in strategic counties and states. But they have a problem. If polls showed Trump up by, say, 4% in this or that state yet he suddenly loses by 1% then it would be proof of their theft. So they need at least some polls showing Trump losing in order to make the theft of the election seem feasible. That's where the poll from Rueters comes in. There'll be lots more like it.

And fools like Paul and Foxy will fall for every single one.

As to my point about Trump needing to be at least 5%-10% up to defeat the theft of the election, well that's not a new thing. Its called being outside the margin of cheating. I've been saying it since before the 2020 election... so over 5 years. Its just that such thinking goes sailing over poor Paul's head.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 July 2024 9:53:16 AM
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We'll have to wait and see who Americans will choose
as their country's leader. Predicting anything we
know is risky at the best of times. Of course things
are going to get even nastier in the US, as the competition
ramps up.

Let's not add to it. Instead Let's just sit back and watch the show.

Interesting times ahead.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 July 2024 10:30:00 AM
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"Let's not add to it. "

You mean by posting links to thoroughly corrupted polls? Yes, if you stop doing that it might be useful. Unlikely but useful.

BTW, in all due modesty, might I point out that I predicted that Biden wouldn't be the Democrat candidate way back in January. OTOH I did predict that the candidate would be Michelle Obama. I don't think that's completely off the table just yet.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 July 2024 12:07:51 PM
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mhaze,

None of us can really argue with your logic.

And - we all appreciate your pointing out that -

You're good at predictions.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 July 2024 1:35:57 PM
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Trumpster,

There you go again sing off Dangerous Doctor Donald's song sheet, repeating his lie that the "election was stolen".

"way back in January" Was that January 6th 2021? How is your buffalo horns and face paint these days?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 July 2024 3:59:59 PM
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"And - we all appreciate your pointing out that"

Logically, I don't need to point it out :)

How is your buffalo horns and face paint these days?"

Still lying? Can't help yourself,can you?
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 26 July 2024 4:07:19 PM
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mhaze,

Your likes and dislikes are a certain level of compulsion.
If you can't do what you like, you will suffer.

We get it and understand.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 July 2024 4:30:26 PM
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If we have anyone here who speaks gibberish, can they please translate Foxy's last post.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 27 July 2024 9:38:36 AM
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mhaze,

I guess that just proves that it's not
the ones speaking the same language but the ones sharing
the same feelings that understand each other.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:00:14 AM
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Kamala Harris has chosen Timothy James Walz, 41st Governor
of Minnesota, age 60 as her running mate in her campaign
for the US Presidency. He's of German, Swedish descent,
a Lutheran, and it will be interesting to see how he
does with American voters.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 8 August 2024 4:13:31 PM
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Hi Foxy,

This bloke from Minnesota wont do real well with the likes of Mr Mhaze Trumpster, obviously another of the radical left.

"If we have anyone here who speaks gibberish" Okay Trumpster, unfortunately Donald has a prior speaking engagement, where he'll wax lyrical to a chosen audience of 'Melon Heads", have you got a ticket, but if you give The Donald a call I'm sure you two will have a riveting conversation in your native tongue of gibberish for about 2 hours.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 8 August 2024 5:11:58 PM
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