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NAIDOC WEEK And Racial Abuse

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mhaze,

No one is asking you to celebrate NAIDOC, I'm sure you wont be missed with your stand out white sheet and flour sack on your head. No more than you're asked to celebrate Christmas, or any other celebration, it entirely up to you.

Is your hatred of Aboriginal people based on a guilt complex, is that why, judging by your anti Aboriginal comments, you appear to be that extreme racists?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 7:09:14 PM
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"Some aboriginal groups forgot how to make fire. That's quite an achievement. Let's celebrate that."

I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing saying that.
Almost feels like you're treating them like downe syndrome kids.
Didn't all humans figure out how to make and harness fire at some point?

Now it's 2024.
I can get trays of cheap lighters for $10
We can arm re-empower every indigenous in the country to make fire again for about 20c each.

They need to stop being sorry for themselves
Stop putting so much emphasis on a victimhood industry.
Gain some skills and make themselves feel useful.
Find a way to empower themselves and beat the white man at his own game.
The modern world is capitalism.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 9:41:32 PM
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"Is your hatred of Aboriginal people based on a guilt complex,"

Standard response from those that can't argue the point... Oh you must be racist!!

I don't hate aboriginals. I do hate the way those who are embarrassed by the backwardness of the aboriginals, make up unsupported claims that they had a culture worthy of praise.

I'm not anti-aboriginal, I'm anti-lies.

For example, I'm the one here who has pushed the fact that aboriginal culture is highly misogynist and that that is the reason for the massive domestic violence against women in the aboriginal community and that the way to reduce the DV is to acknowledge the failures of the culture and address it.

You on the other hand, turn your eyes away from all the evidence of aboriginal DV and misogyny thereby failing to address ways to halt the DV. Why do you hate aboriginal women?
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:21:10 AM
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Hi Paul,

I guess you had to expect the negativity that
you're getting in raising this discussion.

mhaze in his usual fashion as an "acute observer," delves
into his customery bag of accusations or as he puts it - "observations."
LOL.

But what he "observes" is different from the intent, and
context.

NAIDOC WEEK celebrations are held across Australia during
the first week of July each year (Sunday to Sunday). to
celebrate the history, culture, and achievements of our
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples.

My suggestion to mhaze to visit a museum of a national library
was simply a suggestion for him to take the time to deepen his
understanding of Indigenous history and culture especially
during NAIDOC WEEK (7th July - 14th July) when there is so
much on display in the hope that he just may get to embrace
and deepen his understanding of Indigenous history and
culture.

There are all sorts of activities and workshops being
produced.

The Australian Museum has a series of First Nations Tours,
workshops, and up-late events - celebrating NAIDOC WEEK.

And with school-holidays still being on - the events will
be packed.

Anyway, I tried.

You can lead a horse to water ...
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 10:35:15 AM
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Foxy, who has shown she understands the issues of ancestry in the same way as my budgie understands nuclear fusion, thinks anyone who doesn't buy her ignorant genuflecting to the natives just needs to be educated (or is it re-educated).

Its the standard response from the ignorant who think of themselves as educated.

The problem with and for people like Foxy is that they fall for all the claims about aboriginal society's achievements in a vacuum. Foxy thinks we just need to see another boomerang or hear another charlatan tell us how wonderful things were pre-1788 and we'll all swoon as she does.

Her problem is that she's utterly ignorant of what stone age society was like around the world. She swoons that aboriginals had a tradition of story telling in the utter ignorance that EVERY stone age group had a tradition of story telling. The aboriginals were just another so-so stone age group who, among the world's population, had the distinction of failing to make any advances to speak of in the think-of-a-number-and-double-it years they were here.

Celebrate that if you want. I have too much respect for the facts to join in.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 11:09:48 AM
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For someone who is unprepared to find out the facts of
what life was like for the Indigenous people pre-invasion
and actually learn the facts, instead of making false claims
that they
are interested in the "facts" - which is nonsensical. All they
are interested in are further attacks. It's a very predictable
and much used tactic - especially from Trumpster supporters.
Everything is "fake news," after all.

Facts are facts. And they are evidence based.

The British colonization of Australia in 1788 was devastating
for the Indigenous communities around the country. Their numbers
fell from around 750,000 to just 93,000 by 1900.
Thousands died as British settlers drove people off their lands.
spread disease -
And worse. People were forced to adopt British customs and
abandon their own culture. We all by now know the sad history.

Australia's history since 1788 began with the brutal acts of
racism. It's colonisation was yet another example of White-
Christians going into other societies thinking they were superior
and could therefore take over people's
resources and cultures.

This attitude has not gone away today.

We live in a complex world. Within the human species there's
as much difference between us as there are similarities.
Our differences in race, language, religion, ethnicities,
political affiliations, and more, causes conflict between us.

These differences have created some hierarchical positions
and systems and institutions, which are evident in the way
some groups see and treat other groups that they think come
lower in this self-made hierarchy.

What we need to do is learn more about each other, avoid
stereotypes, judgements, and biases if we can. And try to be
inclusive - and recognizing the truth of someone's history
would be a good step. Hence NAIDOC WEEK.

Talking about superiority?

Reading Charles Dickens might also help.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 11:51:59 AM
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