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Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 2:11:20 PM
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Hi Paul,
It shouldn't come as a surprise to any of us - that there will be posters on this forum - who will not see the culture of our Indigenous People as being worthy of celebration. There of course will be people with our country's racist history - who don't recognize our Indigenous People as having contributed anything worthwhile to this land - people who won't recognise our Indigenous people's contribution - whether through their animist belief system, expressed through songs, stories, paintings, and dance or their care for the land, their languages, and cultures. These same close-minded critics - tend to ignore what British colonization of Australia in 1788 did. And how devastating it was for the Indigenous communities around the country. How our Indigenous People's numbers fell from around 750,000 to just 93,000 by 1900. How thousands died as British settlers drove them off their lands and brought killer diseases such as measles, smallpox, and TB. How the Indigenous people were segregated from the rest of society, forced to adopt British customs and abandon their own culture. How many had their children taken away. But chin-up. NAIDOC WEEK is worth celebrating. Because with all the odds against them - our Indigenous People have managed to survive as the oldest living culture - and that is worth celebrating! Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 3:19:27 PM
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Yes Foxy, that's me who doesn't think the aboriginal culture such as it was is worthy of celebration. Few stone age cultures were.
But its pretty funny that having lamented the lack of celebration you've then gone on to simply complain about things that happened to the natives over the past two centuries and don't show a single think about them worth celebrating. It seems you want a government funded commemoration of those who died of TB! Rather bizarre. Still I get the point. you think you're not racist and therefore anyone who doesn't buy into your black armband view of history is definitionally racist. Its childish and utterly lacking in logic but you'll be relieved to know you're not alone in that type of screwy thinking. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 3:51:01 PM
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mhaze,
I shall be happy to continue talking to you when and if you actually do some research on our Indigenous People. Going to a museum or a national library may help. You may find out that the reason why many Indigenous People can't simply get over the past is because the negative affects of colonization are still having an impact on Indigenous People every day often in drastic ways. These 18th Century colonial attitudes set in motion events and policies and established systems and institutions that continue to have an impact on Indigenous People today, despite Indigenous People's determined efforts to resist and overcome their adversity. BTW: I did list the fact that our Indigenous People were/are great storytellers,. That they have an animist belief system expressed through songs, stories, paintings, and dance. They had great ways of looking after the land. They were expert hunters and gatherers - and much more. Their artwork is valued all over the world. We can also learn from their land management skills. http://bwtribal.com Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 4:25:01 PM
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mhaze,
Given your anonymity on the Forum, I thought the football yobbo image could be yours, only asking perhaps not. The fact Aboriginal people have existed continuously for 60,000 year on this continent is worth celebrating in itself. There's Aboriginal art, dance, song, language, custom etc etc all a part of Australian culture. In your case what is the best of your Ocker Aussie culture to celebrate, meat pies and XXXX beer? I on the other hand like to celebrate the great achievements of my fellow Aussie's. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 4:34:09 PM
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Standard Foxy here. When she can't argue her case she just claims that's she's way too knowledgeable and her opponent needs to do more learning. This from the dill who thought DNA could only tell you who your current relatives are.
" The fact Aboriginal people have existed continuously for 60,000 year on this continent is worth celebrating in itself." Well done Paul. That's how adults talk. Who helped you write that? People have existed on every continent (except the Americas) for 60000 years or more. Nothing to celebrate there. But in most of those places they progressed. The Australia inhabitants didn't and we are supposed to celebrate their lack of progress over 60000 years. Well I don't think its cause for celebration. Quite the contrary. If I'm going to celebrate stone age peoples, I'll look to those who built Stonehenge or Göbekli Tepe. Got anything like that here to celebrate? Oh wow! They told stories about rainbow serpents to each other. Well so did every other primitive society but some went on to tell stories about Gilgamesh and Troy and Hamlet. Got anything like that to celebrate? Oh I know. They did manage to wipe out every species of mega-fauna here. We could celebrate that except that every other primitive society did it as well. Oh the boomerang? Nup invented elsewhere. Some aboriginal groups forgot how to make fire. That's quite an achievement. Let's celebrate that. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 5:13:10 PM
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Do grow up.... or at least try to act like an adult.
As to aboriginal culture, I can't help but notice that you didn't offer an example, just an assertion that it exists somewhere, somehow, sometime.
Actually I don't deny they had a culture - just nothing worth celebrating. If you think telling the truth is racist, that's on you.