Hi Steele,

Level heads do appear to be trying to sort things out.
We can only hope they succeed.

The BBC tells us that Australia's Foreign Minister Penny
Wong has suggested Australia could recognize Palestinian
Statehood, to increase momentum towards peace.

"However, Hamas could have no role in its governance," the
Foreign Minister said.

Both Australia's opposition in government and the Zionist
Federation of Australia say that such a move would be
premature. Despite the fact that as the Foreign Minister
points out a two-state solution would help undermine and
marginalize Hamas.

We're told that Canberra has long said the recognition of a
Palestinian nation could only come as part of a 2 state solution
brokered with Israel. Israel refuses.

Penny Wong's comments echo a speech by UK Foreign Secretary
David Cameron this year, in which the UK too could recognize
Palestinian Statehood without the support of Israel.

Spain's PM Pedro Sanchez has said that Spain was already
working towards recognition, arguing it was "In the
geopolitical interests of Europe."
"The international community will not be able to help the
Palestinian State if it doesn't recognize its existence."

The Australian Government has increasingly voiced its
concerns about the war against Hamas in Gaza, including after
Australian aid worker was killed alongside six others.

A 2 state solution is seen as the answer - which as Penny Wong
has said would help undermine and marginalize Hamas.

140 countries recognize Palestinian Statehood. The United
Nations is set to consider granting Palestine full membership
of the international body. Weeks of talks have failed to
produce an agreement but international pressure is growing.

http://bbc.com/news/world-australia-68758678

Fester

Yes. That's the main point of Bezza's post. I'm sure there are lots of other things that could be added. But, will anyone take notice?

As Maurice Newman writes:

“The reality is that in just eighty years, Australia has been transformed from a cohesive, resilient, upwardly mobile society, into a divided land of welfare dependents, where double standards and groupthink are the norm. Where books and movies with narratives deemed offensive to the power elites are either withdrawn or rewritten. Where statues of previously worthy citizens are torn down. Yet somehow, discrimination in favour of colour in circumstances that would heap scorn on whites and a government-sponsored referendum seeking constitutionally enshrined privileges for a racial minority, are considered acceptable.”

Our own apathy and loss of faith should be listed. But, OLO does not represent the average Australian, and we might be pleasantly surprised at the next election that there is still some decency and spirit out there. It happened with the Voice. It can happen again.

Pauline Hanson is on the way out.

Get over it.

Another piece of rubbish to add to the list of things that will keep sucking us down the gurgler if it is successful is 'native positive': with an unelected bozo suggesting that the uninhabited Kimberley should have a 40kmp speed limit. Most of the plotting is unknown because of the Communist secrecy.

Who'd have thought ttbn? All the conservatives here on OLO with the eye of suspicion on them as possible card carrying Nazis or KKK members, and now look at who is attacking the Jews and who is defending their name. I guess that everything must have changed when cult leader Albo was musing one day and had his revelation, "You know, Hitler won a motza of support with Jew hatred. I think I'll do the same.". Working a treat for Tones so far.

Here's Oren again discussing a few more truths about Palestinian and Jewish history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-x-cRReI1A

Fester,

Although some of your conservative views do overlap with the more radical views of far right extremists like Nazis and the KKK, I wouldn't put that extreme label on you. If far right extremism was to gain traction in Australia, and it is a long way from doing that, people of your ilk would be easy prey for those demanding you "come on board" and embrace such ideology. You mentioned Nazis, its true that German conservatives, people equivalent to you in political thinking, believed that they could "come on board" with Nazi ideology and in someway control the excesses of that radicalism. The Nazis treated the conservatives as "Useful Idiots" to be used to achieve their own ends, they successfully did that, and then disposed of the conservatives in true radical style, they murdered them, because they were no longer useful.

You try to portray Albanese and his government as "radical communists", which just shows how out of touch you are. The truth is much like Dutton, Albanese is a follower of moderate liberalism. There is no great philosophical difference between Labor and Liberal, but rather policy difference within the constraints of our capitalistic based democracy, and both parties only argue on what emphases should be applied to their generally similar policies.