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Who Is Running Australian?

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Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke has “overruled his department” and aborted a consultation process involving the ability of workers to carry their leave entitlements from employer to employer. (Closer to the coming election).

He OVERRULED HIS DEPARTMENT. Is that further proof that the idea for rubbish legislation is coming from unelected, lurking-in-the-background bureaucrats, and not politicians? That circus is being ring-mastered by “faceless” men and women and not our elected politicians?

Just who is running the country
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 8:35:10 AM
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Not me!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 7:36:50 AM
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Inadequately qualified bureaucrats adverse to common sense !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 21 March 2024 1:28:10 PM
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Indyvidual,

It seems that way.

The Minerals Council of Australia claims that federal environment bureaucrats are already assessing mining projects in line with Albanese's secretive “Nature Positive” principles even though those principles are not yet law.

Plibersek denies it; but it is only the very naive who believe politicians in 2024. And, and there is no evidence that she and other ministers know what their departments are up to all the time or,indeed, at any particular time.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 March 2024 3:43:18 PM
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Who are the un-elected faceless men of the Minerals Council, representing 0.001% of the population. A pressure group of vested interests. The bureaucracy performs a necessary function to facilitate good government. They don't get it right all the time, just like our elected representatives.

ttbn, I'm not sure what the point is here, its an important and necessary function of the PS to advise the minister, who can't be expected to be across all aspects of various proposals presented. Then there is the mechanics of drafting complex legislation, another function of the PS.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 21 March 2024 4:13:59 PM
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They are not “faceless men”; they can be identified with a quick Google search

The spokesperson in question was actually a woman, complete with face.

The Minerals Council, like any business entity, does not “represent” anyone but itself. It does supply jobs, revenue and taxes to help 27 million Australians enjoy their standard of living, make profits for shareholders: things that the real faceless bureaucrats seem intent on destroying under a gutless Left-wing government.

Public servants are just that - servants. I used to be one. Public servants are beholden to us through our elected representatives. They are, or should be, controlled by those elected representatives; they do their bidding, investigate, and advise. They don’t make policy.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 March 2024 8:36:14 AM
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Good Morning Ttbn,

«Public servants are just that - servants. I used to be one. Public servants are beholden to us through our elected representatives. They are, or should be, controlled by those elected representatives; they do their bidding, investigate, and advise. They don’t make policy.»

Have you borrowed Foxy's little red book? Maybe I should borrow it next...

- All Things Bright and Beautiful, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT_oDqOEGpc
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 22 March 2024 9:00:17 AM
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The last two posters described the Public Servants as they used to & supposed to be. One just has to look at PS job advertising. These jobs are always referred to as "careers" with the emphasis on the individual rather than the well-remunerated service provided to the Nation.
Just wait until we have a federal administration with sufficient integrity that hounds useless & corrupt bureaucrats like they hounded some Army & other in-the-field personnel who only had moments to make a decision.
If anyone should have three year terms it should be the bureaucrats.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 22 March 2024 4:53:22 PM
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ttbn,

The Mineral Council represents vested interest, i.e its members. Like any other lobby group it tries to influence government to its way of thinking, for its members advantage. There is a social contract between all Australians and those who The Mineral Council represents. A two way street exists, with benefits flowing to both miners and Australians, who after-all are the owners of the resources that mining exploits, and whose interest should be safeguarded by government.

"things that the real faceless bureaucrats seem intent on destroying under a gutless Left-wing government"

There's no evidence of that as I believe mining does very well in Australia, and have a better advantage here than in many other developed countries. Some might like to see mining so advantaged that Australians are reduced to the status of third world beggars in their own country, as big mining exploits the peoples resources to their total advantage.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 22 March 2024 11:55:27 PM
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Foreign interests merely exploit the silliness of societies. In drug riddled societies this is very easily achieved, the evidence is there for all who are willing to see it. Do away with discipline, make idiotic frivolities a priority & entice people to willingly let themselves dumb down & the road is clear for what we're going through right now !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 23 March 2024 11:07:29 PM
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Who Is Running Australia ?

Definitely not the people who should !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 28 March 2024 9:18:26 AM
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The person supposed to run the country, Albanese, is certainly not doing it. If he was, he would have replaced the Home Affairs Minister, the Immigration Minister and the Climate Change Minister long ago.

Albanese said that he would be like Bob Hawke, who left his Ministers to get on with it.

Trouble is, Albanese is nothing like Bob Hawke - unfit to lick his boots - and Hawke had good Ministers, not the likes of the three incompetent clowns mentioned above.

There is no one running the country. The Labor/Greens/Teal cartel is a hopeless disgrace.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 March 2024 6:06:03 PM
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Here's just one example of Australia not being run properly.

InfraCo, a Telstra owned company laying 14,000km of fibre cable across the nation as part of a high-capacity network between major cities to ensure Australia’s internet connectivity remains competitive with Asia, is currently having to deal with 50 cultural heritage groups and about 25 road, rail and utility companies as well as state and territory governments to get the job done.

Lack of leadership and red tape is dragging the country down.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 March 2024 6:52:03 PM
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Looking for incompetence, take one look at the NOALITION front bench, staring the Dud himself Dud Dutton, with Squeaky Lay and the useless Shadow Treasure Angus Taylor making up the top three picks. Wow! its a race to the bottom with the rest, not a brain between them! Anyone who would advocate a vote for the "Lovely Pauline" Party must have rocks in his head.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 March 2024 7:58:57 PM
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not a brain between them!
Paul1405,
no more than an ounce but still an once more than all the Woke Left & Green combined !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 30 March 2024 12:54:49 PM
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The Opposition, no matter what you think of them, can hardly be blamed for the incompetence of the Albanese government - the mob that was actually elected to run the country, but quite clearly is not up to the job.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 30 March 2024 5:22:20 PM
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ttbn,

As a member of the "One Nation One Percent Club" you are never going to accept a Labor government, and the Albanese government is no exception. No government does everything 100% correctly, but some are better than others. I don't agree with Labor's foreign policy as it relates to our toady US relationship, submarines and all that BS. Domestically Labor is doing fairly well, but some areas like immigration and housing need a bit more attention. What I want to see is policy from the NOALITION, not simply opposing everything, trying to win political advantage. The NOALITION is a weak mob, with a shallow leader, bereft of policy, it gives us no reason to vote for it. As for those you advocate for, the likes of Hanson and Palmer, they are so far removed to the right that they are a joke, but not to you.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 30 March 2024 7:55:58 PM
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Paul

You really should get off the jungle juice.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 30 March 2024 8:41:18 PM
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The starting point of this thread points up everything said about
the Labor government.
When you leave a job you get paid your entitlements.
Why complicate it for every pay office in the land ?
It makes a mess of the super system and the tax system.
This what happens with a government by people who have never worked !

Sorry, but it is only going to get worse.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 30 March 2024 10:45:02 PM
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