mhaze,

You have not posted one word of displeasure at the wholesale murder of 30,000 innocent people, 20,000 of whom were women and children. You claim myself and AC take perverted satisfaction at the murder of innocent Israelis at the hands of Hamas 7th Oct. NOT BLOODY TRUE! What sort of perverted mind are you who would claim breast feeding babies "voted for Hamas"!

Yes, before the ceasefire resolution at the UNSC, Hamas was unwilling to release more hostages without a ceasefire, they have indicated with the passing of this UNSC resolution they are willing to do so in exchange for thousands of Palestinians being held in Zionist concentration camps.

BTW, as a pacifist I deplore ALL war, and ALL killing. As a warmonger I'm sure you hold a different view.

Apart from the Gazans not being all "innocent" - many are actually Hamas terrorists - people more in the know than any of us indicate that the figures are not all that believeable.

Just remember that in WW2, 15 million soldiers were killed compared with 38 million civilians. There is nothing new or unusual about Gazan civilians being killed.

"There is nothing new or unusual about Gazan civilians being killed."

Well those Palestinian parents of children who have been murdered by the Zionists will take great comfort in that knowledge, ttbn. A little collateral damage here, a little collateral damage there, nothing unusual. Should a foreign power ever attack Australia, heaven forbid, and should they kill tens of thousands of us civilians, we too will be able to take great comfort in the knowledge that its only collateral damage, nothing unusal. Did you learn that from the Americans, as they are great ones for inflicting collateral damage on the unfortunates wherever they go.

"BTW, as a pacifist I deplore ALL war, and ALL killing. "

But a true pacifist wouldn't take sides. That's where you err and show your true colours.

We all deplore war and killing. But sometimes, when dealing with maniacs like Hamas, war is a necessary evil. Those in the real world know this....you should join the real world some time.

"You claim myself and AC take perverted satisfaction at the murder of innocent Israelis at the hands of Hamas 7th Oct."

Well I never said such a thing. You see, Paul, when you have to fabricate my opinions, you've already lost.
I have said, however, that, in your haste to attack the evil Joos, you've ignored the suffering, the atrocities, the sheer inhumanity of 7/10.

"What sort of perverted mind are you who would claim breast feeding babies "voted for Hamas"!"
Well I never said such a thing. You see, Paul, when you have to fabricate my opinions, you've already lost

Paul

I wouldn't have thought that my statement of the facts of war would be a trigger for your frivolous response. There IS nothing unusual about civilians being killed in war, and the civilian victims are not “collateral”, they are people.

The Israelis murdered and brutalised by Hamas were also people, not combatants but civilians; they were DELIBERATELY killed by Hamas.

The Gazan citizens were not deliberately killed by Israel, nor are they being deliberately killed now. They are dead because of Hamas; something that you cannot come to grips with.

There is simply no equating the deliberate murder, without warning, of Israeli citizens,with the deaths of Gazans among whom Hamas chooses to conduct its assault on Israel.

There is no “great comfort” (are you serious!) in the facts of war. But, war is about killing. And yes, an attack on Australia would result in the deaths of many of us - particularly where you live. And probably before our greatest ally: the one you hate so much, could help us.

Next time you get the urge to rubbish America and call people war mongers, remember that you are on the most vulnerable-to-attack east coast of the country.

mhaze said;

"In a survey taken a few days ago, 71% of Gazans say they support Hamas and the 7 October attacks."

Fact; Children make up 47% of Gaza's population. If the entire 53% of adults support Hamas, then to reach 71% support 18% must be children supporting Hamas. Correct mhaze.

So when I say "What sort of perverted mind are you who would claim breast feeding babies "voted for Hamas""....based on your own percentage of 71%. So if all 53% of adults support Hamas, where does the other 18% come from CHILDREN, including breast feeding babies?

BTW, where did YOU conduct YOUR survey, down at Klan HQ?