Paul,

You misunderstand. All I was saying is that its the same way of ignoring evidence as was used by left apologists over the years. Treat all unwanted data as propaganda. Even on these pages we had you treating actual Soviet archives as propaganda because it told an unwanted story.

Again Paul asks for evidence, which he'll reject as propaganda. Not playing.

BTW Paul, still waiting on your evidence that I make up lies. In the meantime. talking of making stuff up, perhaps you'd like to revisit this from an earlier thread this month...

"Paul wrote: "[Trump's] record is 34,593 lying utterances,"

Now you're just making stuff up. I wonder if you see the irony of fabricating stuff about lies. Probably not."

I couldn't help but notice that you headed for the exits as soon as you were bounced on this.

Not just an OLO discussion

Penny Wong, mid March, announces Australia will resume funding to UNRWA

http://www.youtube.com/live/JY7wpfJyRzU?si=UnPUPBXM8fZ-_lmN

mhaze,

"Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years" Washington Post, America's very respected journal. Other put it higher but the WP is a conservative publication (in my opinion).

"there's literally NO evidence that Paul would accept as valid" You well know I will accept independent verified evidence from a reputable sources, so that is a lie.

"he (Paul) has specifically said he refuses to offer evidence for his claims" I never said that, another lie, I said I don't (necessarily) offer evidence for my opinions.

"I couldn't help but notice that you headed for the exits as soon as you were bounced on this." I've just returned from 2 weeks in Aotearoa, where I was involved in several things, my wife and I consider important, that does not include posting on this little forum.

So originally they were "lying utterances". Now they're "false or misleading claims"!! I wonder if you know the difference.

1. It was the Washington Post - the most Trump hating media in the US. Tell me more about how you use unbiased sources.

2. Very few of the 30000+ were claimed lies. Most were just things the anti-Trump mafia disagree with eg the very first one is Trump saying the US hasn't won a war since the 1980s. They didn't claim it as a lie, just something that was debatable. Hilariously, a decade before they said the exact same thing as Trump. Pretty much everything on the list was like that.

3. The list wasn't designed to be factual - just to misled the gullible. They'll be pleased to know that in your case it worked.

Hi shadowminister
What's your latest gripe?
'The US is funding and facilitating genocide'?
- Yeah, we know - what else is new?

Thanks Mavs,

One who we can relied upon for honesty when posting, there is only a few of us left here these days. The Penny Wong YouTube demonstrated what lying lengths the ultra right on this Forum will go to, to discredit Labor. "Labor restores funding to terrorists" an unmitigated lie in itself! One blockwart is bucking for promotion to 'oberfuhrer', and the other already goosestepping around in his snappy black uniform sees himself as the next Reichsinspekteur!