After publicly stating over 100 times that Labor would not touch the legislated stage 3 tax cuts, it looks as though Labor is about to break yet another iron-clad promise it made to voters.

Why does Labor feel so free to lie to voters? It is almost as though they expect to lose the next election.

core and non core promises. remember that?
no cuts to the ABC. remember?

They all do it and this time it is to benefit those that need it the most.

If the public wanted morrisons policies they wouldn't have voted him out.

Only a jerk would not understand that circumstances change over time. Only a jerk would not realise that with a trillion dollars of NOALITION debt left as the legacy of ten years of useless government, LABOR needed to take action on these extravagant tax cuts the NOALITION promised to their super mega rich mates! Something costing ordinary Australians, billions!

Tonight, millions of ordinary Australians are thanking Albo and the LABOR government for that little extra support with tax cuts for the battlers, as they are doing it tough with inflation and rising interest rates, thanks to the do nothing NOALITION Government. Dud Dutton might be commiserating with the wealthy fat cats that are his supporter base, BUT WHO CARES!

I oppose these stage-3 cuts, but promises need to be kept nevertheless.
Otherwise you never know what important promise would be broken in future that would break your heart too.

My suggestion:

Have a tick-box in one's tax-return: "I insist on having my stage-3 cuts as promised".

Those who tick that box will get their cuts... and also be named and shamed.

We all know that Aresenese is a bare-faced liar. He lied about the $275 cut in the price of power; he hasn't stopped lying since. He is certainly learning a lot from his mentor and hero, Xi Jinping; that’s why he says his chats with the Communist Dictator are "private" when he is asked to reveal them.

Village idiot,

What has changed? Albozo is under pressure from the left whinge of the Liebor party to abandon the promise he made to voters dozens of times.

What promises has this moron of a PM actually kept?

The next thing that is likely to change will be the government. Juliar's career was doomed after she blatantly lied to the voters.

WAKE UP, the stage 3 tax cuts, are still the stage 3 tax cuts! The amount of money is still the same, BUT its being redirected in part towards MIDDLE AUSTRALIA and the BATTLERS in need. Not as much for those earning $1 million a year, but more for the BATTLER on $40k with three kids! Okay I'll admit Dud Dutton will get less, so will his silver tail mates down at the Cruising yacht Club, the fat cats wont go without, they'll still be enjoying their caviar and champagne every night! Albo will lose nothing the 1% toffee nose set who'll get less, don't vote Labor anyway.

SM, how much income tax did YOU pay in Australia last year? ZILCH!

Maybe cult leader Albo should make earning a high income a crime, with exemptions for public employees? I'm sure that the ABC would applaud such a decision, as it applauds and endorses everything else cult leader Albo does. I thought that the tax cuts were to address bracket creep, so it seems that cult leader Albo doesn't like the competition. Much as you'd expect from a mummy's boy.

How long before the GST goes up?

ttbn, is that the GST that Little Johnny Howard said he wouldn't introduce?

It's the GST that Howard went to an election with - and won the election.

Albanese has been floundering since the Voice was blown out of the water. The job of Prime Minister is well beyond his capabilities. It's not about overseas trips and rubbing himself up against a Communist tyrant. Albanese loves the prestige and the money, but not the job. He is the bloke who brayed about Morrison being overseas during bushfires; but he manages to be out of the country when the country is figuratively in flames.

Asked questions, and he fobs them off to some minister or other. No leadership qualities whatsoever. Makes no comment on some of the stupid public utterances of those ministers. He takes no responsibility for them, takes no leadership role. There is no sense of the PM being able to do anything about the mess Australia is in - no sense that he wants to do anything, or if he is even capable of doing anything.

Even Dutton is starting to look good compared with Albanese, and that really is saying something.

Perhaps Labor deserves another term to make good; but not with Bozonese it doesn't.

“The Coalition has no enduring principles anyway so it needs to put away pretence and get down to brass tacks; that is, if it wants to win the next election. Energy is the key.” (Economist Peter Smith). 

Smith's advice to Dutton is to get stuck into Bowen, whom he describes as “a gift that will keep on giving.  Abandon Net Zero.  Abandon subsidies for wind and solar, electric cars and charging stations. Promote gas power stations. Forget the Teal seats and go for the regional and suburban communities where there is “plenty of commonsense”. 

Village idiot,

This is a rolled gold promise by Labor, having broken every other promise so far one would have thought that they would try to keep one.

Admittedly it's not wise politically when promises by
political parties are broken. The immediate reactions
are usually severe criticisms by the opposition and their
supporters.

In the case of these tax cuts - the changes were approved
unanimously by the Labor caucus.

"The consensus was this was morally the best things to do,"
said a Labor MP.

The Prime Minister said he was making "the right decision for
for the right reasons," because conditions had changed and
many households needed more help with the cost of living.

The cost of living as we know usually impacts low and
middle income earners.

Since 2019 there's been many impacts. We've had a pandemic,
a recession, global inflation, and 2 wars.

Economists however support these changes. The Coalition
attacks the broken promise. Cassandra Winzar,
Chief Economist for the ?Committee for Economic Development
in Australia said:

"It does make sense to not give quite as big a cut to that
top tax bracket as was previously going to be the case."

The Prime Minister said he was not in government to
"occupy the space " but to make a difference to individuals
and the nation.

"The job is to respond (as things change), to seek advice, and
to make a difference. Make the right decision - not an easy
decision."

Only time will tell whether the voters agree that the right
decision has been made.

There you go again Foxy. Verbatim from cult leader Albo's instruction to the faithful. Just like listening to the ABC. You are fa ar more interesting person than that.

The GST saved Australia’s Bacon. The unintended consequence is that the parasitic Left gained more from it than most !

Fester,

I don't understand your objections. I tried to present
a balanced viewpoint.

I gave quotes -
and I did also say that only time will tell - that it
will be up to the voters to decide if the government
made the right decision.

Why are you so anti anything
to do with the current government? After all the topic
of this discussion is the government's stage 3 tax cuts.

Thank you for the back handed compliment that I'm
"more interesting." Does that mean that if I would agree
with the Coalition's criticisms - you'd find me even
" much more interesting," perhaps "inspirational?"

I did say in my opening sentence that any political party
that doesn't keep it's promises will receive criticisms.
But you and I both know that circumstances do change
and all political parties have to adapt to those
circumstances.

Anyhoo - Just letting you know that I am a writer - and
anything you say may be used in a story.

Fester,

You called the PM a "mummy's boy."

The following link may change your mind:

http://smh.com.au/national/to-understand-anthony-albanese-you-need-to-know-about-his-mother-maryanne-20220517-p5am75.html

We know Dud Dutton is stupid, but surely he wont go to the next election promising to increase taxes for 95% of taxpayers, that's the middle Australian Battlers who'll benefit from these better tax cuts, and giving a tax reduction to the other 5% of silver tails that vote for the Noalition anyway. Oh dear! the Forums Old Farts who are not affected by this, they don't pay income tax, are crying in their beer, they've never voted LABOR in their life, and not about to start now, should they make it to the next election that is.

This is a win for the battlers, and a win for LABOR. Speaking to my son this morning, a worker, a taxpayer with a family and a mortgage, he can not agree more with what LABOR is doing with this.

I never agreed with the stage 3 tax cuts even though I personally would have and still will benefit. For that matter I never agreed with the stage 2 tax cuts even though I benefited.

Our economic circumstances are such that giving out tax cuts is exactly the wrong policy, adding to inflation and reducing our ability to reduce the national debt.

Yet the ALP went to the last election promising to maintain those tax cuts. They were terrified that doing other would result in lost votes. They now claim that circumstances have changed. All that has changed is that they are now concerned that NOT changing policy will result in lost votes.

And Votes is all its about. What's good for the nation is a distant second.

Way back in May 2022 (yes that long ago) I started a thread called "The poison Chalice Election" (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9813#333463)pointing out that the economic circumstances facing the new government (Lib or ALP) were disastrous. And so it has come to pass. (I love being that right that far out!!)

The ALP are now panicking. The cost of living pressures are increasing and show no sign of abating. As I said back in May 2022, the present economic problems aren't the fault of the government but after 18 months in power and no improvement, they are now starting to get the blame. And that will only continue and exacerbate. This far out from an election, its not a good sign that the government is starting to throw money around to buy themselves another term or two.

/cont

/cont

I never really expected anything better from Albanese but I thought Chalmers might have shown some backbone. But in the end politicians are politicians.

Breaking a promise is bad enough. But this was a promise that the ALP was anxious to break from the moment they made it. They hated the stage 3 cuts and opposed them all the way up to the point where it became politically untenable to do so. Then they accepted them and made pinky-swear promises to keep them. But anyone familiar with the way the ALP works knew that they'd backtrack the moment they had a viable excuse for doing so.

Albanese said his promise was 100% solid and that his word was his bond. We now know how good his word is - proceed accordingly.

The job of the ALP sycophants and the compliant media (but I repeat myself) is to now gloss over the breaking of his word and pretend he had no choice. They'll do it with alacrity. And the population, never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, will accept the money and demand more never understanding that the cost of living crisis was caused by government lockdown polices that the electorate approved.

The only loser here is the nation. Who cares?

On a blank slate, the decision to modify the tax-changes was correct.

But there was a promise, and promises must be kept, to the letter.

Does anyone know the exact wording of that election promise?
Perhaps some loophole could be found?
Maybe the prime-minister could resign for a day, and be replaced with a new PM who could say truthfully, "I did not promise anything"?
Maybe the original tax-changes could be kept, but changed back the day after?

And maybe, as I suggested earlier, the PM could say:
"Look, I made a promise, it was a bad promise but I will keep it. Therefore everyone will be entitled in the next financial-year to these original cuts, but I call on your conscience and ask you to please forego these cuts. I give you the option to forego these cuts on the next tax-return by ticking a single box, and shame on anyone who doesn't".

"More than 1.1 million households will be left worse off under Labor’s proposed changes to the stage three reforms, which will shift more of the benefits to lower and middle-income taxpayers."

How do you think these households and about 2m voters will react in May 2025? Albozo may well be a one-term wonder.

SM

I think that there is now a good chance that the 2 million voters, and others, will react to the inveterate liar, Liaranese, in the same way they reached to his lying, racist attempt to divide them with the Voice.

Happy Australia Day.

Easy-lying Albanese has denied that that his latest broken promise will affect his 'personal integrity'. Well, his personal integrity will be judged by voters at the next election. Many of those voters will be asking, "What integrity"?

Stop beating around the bush & sort out this idiotic/corrupt Tax system & introduce a Flat Tax & do away with negative gearing for investors & speculators !

"& do away with negative gearing for investors & speculators !"

Indyvidual calls for a massive increase in rents.

Looks like 'The Dud' is backtracking, he now realises he can't go to the next election promising a massive increase for 95% of PAYE taxpayers, political suicide.

Since Labor's revised stage 3 tax cuts for the battlers equals the same amount as the original NOALITION tax cuts for the super rich, what is your BEEF. I see, you old pensioners are not happy the super rich are not getting richer!

Indyvidual

Now is not the time to be upsetting landlords, many of whom are getting out of the business, reducing the availability of rental properties.

All this this chest thumping from the Albanese government about building affordable housing is rubbish. Governments don't build. Private enterprise builds, and they are saying that they can't manage the current demands of private would-be owner occupiers, thanks to government restrictions and meddling.

Builders going broke, thanks to socialism, is a weekly occurrence, thanks to socialism interfering with private enterprise.

Albanese is trying to copy his mate, Jacinda Ardern and her 'promise' of thousands of "affordable" homes. We know how well that went.

Albanese needs to immitate Ardern once more, and get out of politics.

"what is your BEEF. "

Paul puts his hands over both eyes and declares he can't see any broken promises.

Franklin D. Roosevelt promised Americans he would keep them out of WWII. What did he do, declared war on Japan, a broken promise! A bloke like ttbn, rabid anti Labor as he is, can't understand the concept of CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE OVER TIME!

p/s Roosevelt was arguably the best President US ever had. But that doesn't mean much when you look at the "talent" that's had the job, Trump, Biden,right back to George Washington.

While I certainly respect and support the act of tweaking the Stage 3 tax cuts because the whole setup was designed to dramatically ease the tax burden on the high end earners in this country, I do not respect promises made by Labor being broken. They should not have been made in the first place.

Dear Paul,

Indeed, CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE OVER TIME, and therefore the Bible tells us:

"But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black"
[Matthew 5:34-36]

"Do not be quick with your mouth,
do not be hasty in your heart
to utter anything before God.
God is in heaven
and you are on earth,
so let your words be few."
[Ecclesiastes 5:2]

"If you make a vow to the Lord your God, do not be slow to pay it, for the Lord your God will certainly demand it of you and you will be guilty of sin. But if you refrain from making a vow, you will not be guilty. Whatever your lips utter you must be sure to do, because you made your vow freely to the Lord your God with your own mouth"
[Deutoronomy 23:21-23]

"Franklin D. Roosevelt promised Americans he would keep them out of WWII. "

Yep Albo breaking a promise he never intended to keep, is totally the same as Japan bombing Pearl Harbour. Sheesh!

The only circumstances that have changed here is that the ALP is suddenly terrified that the swing voters are hurting due to inflation (which is much higher than the headline figure) and that they are now starting to blame the government for it. This isn't about noble principles, its about crass politics. Its also about putting the needs of the government ahead of the needs of the nation.

mhaze, circumstance change. Albo is keeping his promised stage 3 tax cuts. Good of the nation, yep more in the pockets of the wealthiest 5% in tough economic times. But then again YOU are crowing that YOU predicted interest rates would RISE when they were at an all time low of 0.1%. What an amazing prediction, how do YOU do it?

"...putting the needs of the government ahead of the needs of the nation".

True!

Indyvidual calls for a massive increase in rents.

mhaze,
Doing nothing has brought on the $600/week median rent with landlords paying even less income Tax than those whom they hold to ransom. These legalised rip-off merchants are no longer service providers & need to be put out of business.
Private rental is an insurmountable problem because of the present Tax system. Public housing limited to a quarter of a person’s income is the only way forward. We could have a housing lottery where the tickets pay for basic public housing & those who think they're too special to lower their standards there’s the option of buying whatever their hard desires-with their own money, not ours. A housing lottery run by State Govt could easily provide 20-25 basic homes per week. That way everyone benefits & rip-offs would be cut drastically. Throw in a 12 months Gap Year service for anyone unemployed at age 18-20 & presto, the homeless will be part of history ! Basic Housing should not be part of Capitalism !

circumstance change.
Paul1405,
Yeah, I recall that when we had the GFC & again now. Odd that that comment wasn’t uttered when we had Covid !
Nah, that difficulty was Morrison’s fault !

In 1985 the Hawke government sought to 'fix' the negative gearing rort. They banned interest deductions for all new purchases and for any new mortgages. That meant that, for all intents and purposes, negative gearing on properties would end in three years on all existing rental homes and the incentives to buy a rental property would disappear immediately.

Result - fewer rental properties.
Result - massive increase in rents.
Result - the government reversed the banning of negative gearing in 1988.

Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to to repeat it.

Kudos mhaze on the explanation.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10311&page=0#357026
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Indyvidual- You're right that rents are too high but perhaps there are a few reasons for this related to government mismanagement and then there is the question of the solution.

Property prices and rents started to increase in the 90's.

John Howard's change in university funding also occurred in the 90's and universities started importing huge numbers of foreign students from overpopulated nations (with overinflated land prices) who then obtained citizenship and money from cashed up overseas parents (some of it grey or black money).

Why did these overpopulated nations become overpopulated- well Mao after killing about 60 million of his own people grew China until probably the west started promoting and shaming China into adopting a population reduction program to avoid a catastrophe of geopolitics. China's civil war military infrastructure and chain of command provided the vehicle for rapid mobilization of the nation industrially to expand their communist power base. India also grew their population at the same time between 1950 and 2000 it doubled their size from 700 million to 1.3 billion now at 1.4+ billion and slated to be the most populous nation in the next year. China and India are larger than the next eighteen nations combined.

While the US has superior infrastructure and research and development capacity it struggles to compete on price with the low cost of production by the desperate billions in China and India and mismanaged by despotic and corrupt leaders.

It seems that the search for power in Asia has devalued people and labour in the world- the western world has released pressure importing people from Asia into the west. The better solution would have been to implement Asian population management strategies much earlier but the Wests focus was in Russia at the time. Perhaps there were Marxist Communist people that saw this coming

There is competition between internal Indian factions such as the Hindu, Muslim, Sihk groups that cross borders- perhaps it would be better to keep borders between ethnic and religious factions at times in order to control the number of deaths. In a sense at least the Hindu nationalists under Prime Minister Modi recognise that "people aren't all the same" despite the efforts of global woke communist multicultural propaganda.

It seems likely that internal conflict in Asia and Africa is being imported to the west. We are starting to see ethnic machette battles on the streets. The police are afraid to act against ethnic groups for fear of the accusation of racism by woke communists- that seem to have started the problem. Frank Kitson talks in detail in Low Level Insurgency about Communist Tactics to destabilize communities and through several stages move them to Communism. I find it amusing that the SAS have more diplomatic expertise than the police.

Western power and people have become weak and without purpose the powerful seduced by proud vision of seeking power through foreign alliances and networking. Foreign alliances have a tendency to be unstable and brittle.

In summary the pain of the Australian battlers is a symptom of wider geopolitics.

The solution is to work together with other people like yourself to support each other- similar beliefs, similar ethnicity, etc. To try to form alliances with trustworthy external groups where appropriate. Peace is better than war but war is necessary. To deal with the issues that all communities have to deal with. As they say freedom isn't free. In the end we all die but at least we should die well.

Remember we live in precarious times of occupation where our government is not ours

High rents. Scarce housing. Builders going broke.

All down to both members of our political duopoly and their mania for a Big Australia (slipped up to 27 million this year, and still going)

You get what you vote for.

Most people like to give the "small bloke" in business a go in the face of corporate wokeness, monopoly, conspiring with politicians behaviour.

How about giving the small political parties a go?

ttbn,

"How about giving the small political parties a go?" Are you suggesting everyone vote for THE GREENS, glad you have finally seen the light.

A weasel, he really supports the crazy far right, Hanson Party, Palmer Party, a few years back he was all cock-a-hoop about the loony Corny Banana Party, until they ripped him off!

"Kudos mhaze on the explanation."

I have to admit I'm rather chuffed at my May 2022 post which largely predicted this economic problem for whichever party won the 2022 election.

The problem for the government is that they really don't have a way out of this problem that doesn't involve throwing money at it and therefore exacerbating inflation. The recent essential poll (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/dec/11/guardian-essential-poll-financial-woes-trigger-frustration-with-albanese-and-mistrust-in-institutions ) shows an electorate that is very pessimistic about the near future and looking for people to blame. (They should of course blame themselves for cheering on the lockdown malarkey, but that ain't gunna happen!).

So, as I've said often, these problems are not caused by this government (or more exactly not primarily caused by this government) but, after 18 months in power, the electorate is starting to blame them for their woes.

Its only going to get worse. There is nothing on the economic horizon that looks likely to pull the governments chestnuts out of the fire as rising iron ore prices did last year. The international scene looks dire for Australia and therefore for the electorate and therefore for the government.

If you have the economic option, batten down the hatches.

"It seems likely that internal conflict in Asia and Africa is being imported to the west."

And then some.

Fortunately for Australia, we had the short-lived Abbott government which 'Stopped the Boats' and set a new paradigm for Australia where both sides pf politics oppose open slather refugee intakes. (The ALP does this reluctantly but know that a return to the Rudd/Gillard years of open borders is political death).

Not so in other parts of the world.

In the US, the disastrous Biden regime is allowing millions of military aged men to slither into the country. This appraisal of the likely results of that is sobering.... http://twitter.com/BigFish3000/status/1750617779357798779

Likewise, Europe was seduced into taking hoards of MENA 'refugees' and its future looks grim.... http://rmx.news/austria/europeans-will-succumb-to-islam-former-top-german-spy-issues-new-warning-as-muslim-majority-in-europe-predicted-by-2200

It doesn't take too much imagination to envisage Australia/NZ as the last bastions of western civilisation come 2200.

Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to to repeat it.
Mhaze,
I told you so ! Negative gearing has created problems not solved them. As I stated earlier, basic housing should be a public housing responsibility, not private enterprise. Private enterprise is open to anyone who has got what it takes to succeed without the rort of negative gearing. It is negative gearing that led to the immoral imbalance of wealth, a wealth procured via dodging Tax. Same goes for donations ! Govt Taxes are way to exorbitant as are permits etc. Everything is focussed on maximum profit instead of sustainability & that is just so wrong & bad policy !

Older Australian's have been getting some criticism that they are keeping property prices high by not selling land at a rate fast enough for other stakeholders. This has creepy communist undertones implying that property owners shouldn't be able to "own their own property" and choose when they want to sell it.

I've been thinking older Australian's have done a lot for younger Australia- younger Australian's born by older Australian's- older Australian's are a soft marketing target and appear to buy Australian products that provide jobs for younger Australian's- Grey Nomads spend their money in Australia often buying expensive caravan's and equipment. Maybe younger Australian's need to buy more Australian products so that their jobs stay in Australia, take less overseas holidays, invest their money better, live home until they buy a home rather than renting. Live in regional locations and train in areas that utilize Australia's strengths rather than clustering in the cities cosmopolitan toilets. Find meaning in purpose rather than the bright lights- "all that glitters is gold". Maybe older Australian's can keep a room aside for their young relatives and children of their close friends- they can donate their old mobile phones and computers to help young people get a job- maybe cook them dinner so that the young people can study get a good job and in return support them as they age. Maybe universities can move to remote locations so that "The Foreign Education Industry" doesn't have an impact on housing. Better still why can't foreigners stay with their families in their own nations and Australia can negotiate with their leaders for the common wealth.

Governments/ ideologies are seeking desperately to pass blame for their bad policies to older people, younger people, any people- to avoid taking responsibility.

mhaze said "So, as I've said often, these problems are not caused by this government (or more exactly not primarily caused by this government) but, after 18 months in power, the electorate is starting to blame them for their woes. "

Answer- Progressive/ Woke/ Communist ideologies around the western world have been quick to lock down communities industrial engine probably hoping for materialist class conscious leadership churn that benefits themselves. Industrialist mindsets otoh understand that shutting down all the production lines leads to long term capacity and inflation. So business groups were generally against the curfews, travel bans, etc because of the flow on effects sadly some can't even see the noses on their own faces let alone what is coming down the track.

Sadly we can't avoid "idiots in power" all we can do is work together at our level to help our family and extended family and local communities and methodically working to improve the mess that idiots create in our communities. Idiots divide communities and families and extended families for their own purposes- we need to stop them

" As I stated earlier, basic housing should be a public housing responsibility, not private enterprise. "

Well you've said it without offering any evidence. Why should housing be a public responsibility?

You more than anyone in the group rail against bloated bureaucracy, yet here you are calling for a whole new bureaucracy for a favoured project. This is exactly how governments become bloated.

BTW, which negative gearing to you want to ban. Just on land and houses? What about negatively geared shares? What about negatively geared family businesses? Do you want to ban them all (ie disallow interest costs as an expense) or just land/house and if so how do you propose to differentiate between them?

For example, back in the 1980s when Hawke banned negative gearing (I note that you decided to ignore that) I had clients who simply set up a company that owned houses and then negatively geared the business thus avoiding the problem. I suspect the savings from banning negative gearing will be sweet FA of nothing but the cost to renters will be huge. Still the warm inner glow is worth it, n'est pas?

It seems to me that governments no longer want the responsibility of housing. Certainly in SA, they no longer build public housing. The Housing Trust handed over the running of public housing to contractors/charities years ago. There is no new building.

Proponents of public housing might be caught up in the 'right-to-housing myth. Given that there is a growing number of homeless people, there is clearly no such right. A right is something that you can actually get, must get. Most "rights" are just words put about by virtue-signallers who don't have any responsibility to provide them.

Governments have proved to be Casanovas in everything they touch outside of their limited core duties. They have no place in business of any kind, apart from the policing of laws and standards laid down for private enterprise to produce the goods for profit.

I think a discussion on what "Negative Gearing" is might be helpful from different perspectives.

There are problems with red tape in housing. People used to build their own homes for 1000 pounds.

How much are the tax reductions giving to low-income earners? Only enough to buy two loaves of bread and a chicken roast each week. Does nothing to support rising rents, or mortgages. On $60,000 - about $100 month, on $150,000 - about $310 a month.
What he should have done was leave stage 3 in place and given extra tax relief to the low-income earners, especially those below $150,000.

"If you want to stay poor, live under constant surveillance in restricted cities, submit to being governed by social credit scores and Digital ID’s, by all means keep voting for the same toxic political class that have ruined every ‘free’ society’ in the Western World.

But do not complain when you get exactly what you voted for…"

"I think a discussion on what "Negative Gearing" is might be helpful from different perspectives."

There's quite a lot of things that are negatively geared, not just rental housing. Essentially, the tax system says that interest paid is a valid expense that can be offset against other income eg rents, share dividends, profits or wages. We would have a very different economy if interest wasn't considered a legitimate business expense. Most of our resource sector is funded by borrowings and the costs of those borrowings(the interest) is offset against the revenue. Equally most farms run interest incurring debt during at least some part of their seasonal cycle and that is also deductible.

Its not as easy as just saying let's get rid of it.... the economic ramifications are enormous.

What we really have is a bunch of people who don't fully understand how it works but who believe that someone is getting a benefit not available to them and therefore want it stopped. The politics of envy where ending the deductibility of interest would have dire consequences for many who don't own a rental property.

Some here appear to think that the term “Public Housing” infers free housing. It doesn’t. Public Housing should be first of all to house people living in this Nation & paying Tax during their first years of working life with families. In other words, give them a decent start. As I stated before, the rent could be a quarter of their income which would give them a fair living standard at no-one’s cost. For the less fortunate suffering disability State run accommodation should be provided again at affordable rent instead of being at the mercy of greed-saturated investor landlords. Also, as I have stated many times before, young single unemployed would be housed & fed by a National Service scheme, cheaper & far more effective to build a better society. Council too should be made to cooperate by providing basic accommodation i.e. Dongas or prefabs etc so any National Service participants allocated to Councils. The opportunities are there for anyone if only we keep Leftist do-gooders & negative gearing greed merchants at bay.

Issy,

When you got off the boat, where was your fist digs? Free house, cushy job if you wanted it, and dosh in your pocket! Ain't that so. How long have you been living off aged welfare? 20 years!

Another lie by Albo and his 40 thieves.

You can't trust this crook with anything.

Paul1405,
You’re determined to to prove your silliness. Apart from a month in a migrant Hostel upon arrival I’ve not had accommodation I did not have to pay for.
Unlike you hanging off your NZ missus’s apron claiming indigenous status !

mhaze- Thanks for your explanation of negative gearing.

From a business minded persons point of view- everything is business and subject to the profit and loss statement (income - expenses = profit) believing that profit should be taxed not income as is true in businesses. They see spending on investments that generate income as either maintenance or improvement. Business people see human resources including themselves as just another investment vehicle. It's not against the law to have this philosophical perspective as long as they obey the law- but it isn't against the law to use a company structure to bring reality more in line with their philosophy. Business people see their investment in infrastructure as contributing to the communities available infrastructure and providing a valuable community service- they obtain a small amount of profit for their effort in maintenance and compliance costs. A few years ago consulting firms started encouraging contractors to work under their own businesses- the tax department created laws stopping contractors from paying tax as businesses unless they did work for more than one client. Tradies are allowed deductions for tools and safety wear. The Australian Taxation system is complex. But in order to understand tax it's probably also important to understand government spending and the logic behind them.

People that are renting see the relationship of the property owner with society differently. I may do a short piece on this later.

The effect of getting rid of negative gearing would be enormous. I'm not a fan of the Property Council, but their take is interesting:

"If negative gearing was to go, so would the capacity to provide work streams to hundreds of thousands of carpenters, electricians, plumbers, gardeners, and other property maintenance people across the country, as owners scale back to providing only the most essential repairs"

Even if landlords kept their properties to rent out, it would be the tenants who suffered more than they do now.

Many landlords choose to carry out most of the basic repairs to their properties themselves, as agents tend to use "their people", and the cost can be prohibitive. Never seen the need to use negative gearing. Now paid off, they give a reasonable return, and capital gains is the big win, but only if you are selling.

"Breaking core promises is always bad, especially when a government is under pressure, as Julia Gillard found out when she trashed her promise that “there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”. After breaking his promise to deliver the Coalition’s stage three tax cuts – which he reiterated at least 36 times in two years – Anthony Albanese is keen to convince Australians that the move is “the best way forward’’.

The 1.1 million households, which already pay a disproportionate share of the tax burden and will be worse off because of Labor taking back tax cuts legislated by the Coalition, will see the move for what it is – a tax grab at their expense. Instead of returning these workers’ hard-earned extra earnings that have been skimmed off by bracket creep in recent years, the government is redistributing them."

"The Labor caucus unanimously endorsed the rewriting of the tax package at a special meeting on Wednesday afternoon despite the grave concerns of some MPs that the government would be punished for breaking its election commitment, with one branding the decision as “election-losing”.

From PVO,

"There are two aspects to Labor’s broken promise on stage three taxes: the question of integrity; and the economic value, or otherwise, associated with the backflip.

Even if there is merit attached to breaking the promise, which I’ll test later, doing so locks this government in as deeply untrustworthy, now and forever more. It should erode their ability to be believed during any other political debate, sapping the credibility of future promises.

Political integrity either matters or it doesn’t. Yet Anthony Albanese and Treasurer Jim Chalmers may well be rewarded for their deception. They are banking on the public taking a cynical view about truth in politics such that they let this egregious example of deceit pass. If that happens, it will further embed politicians breaking promises, eroding trust in the political class.

The stage three tax cuts were legislated, with Labor’s support, with a pledge they wouldn’t be altered. They were locked in at the election, with a promise they wouldn’t be repealed. That commitment was solidified post-election with assurances time and time again that nothing would change: the tax cuts would take effect as ­legislated.

Their word is their bond and it’s now utterly worthless.

The temptation is to label the PM and Treasurer liars, pejorative terminology to be sure. But what phraseology better encapsulates what they have done?"

Nothing like an old Liberal Party hack crying in his beer (here) over these more than fair changes to the grossly unfair Morrison tax cuts for the mega rich. The vast majority of battling Australia applaud the Albanese government for having the courage to make these sensible changes. The Noalition policy is to increase income tax for 95% of taxpayers after the next election. Dud Dutton wants to become a perverted Robin Hood, robbing from the poor and giving to the rich!

Never seen the need to use negative gearing.
Paul1405,
Now there’s a furphy and a half !

Indyvidual,

Talking about furphys?

Chinese tourists get upset when they buy a souvenir
from Australia and find out it was made in China.

Foxy,
Yep, the Australian Unionists must be just so proud to see they can’t even make souvenirs here. Even a lot of the thinking here appears to be from somewhere else !

Indyvidual,

In my profession we didn't have unions because
we didn't need them.

Repeats of Liaranese saying that his word is his bond have had me choking on my tea with laughter since he broke yet another promise.

Looking at him, the way he dresses, and those glasses, reminded of the Communist posing as a Laborite, Doc Evatt. He is nothing like his idol, Whitlam; he is Evatt the Second, a real died in the wool, extremely dangerous, ultra-Leftist.

Chalmers has advised that the government isn't considering changes to negative gearing since they'd promised to not make any changes in the last two elections.

And of course we all know that when the ALP makes that type of promise, it isn't worth the paper its written on. Their word is their bond....worthless.

They broke a promise on the stage 3 stage tax cuts; now they expect us to believe that they won't touch negative geared because they also promised not to do that. It would be impossible to find a bigger much of morons than Albanese and his gang.

A few suggestio0n spring to mind.

As I said eighteen months ago when I predicted all these problems for whichever party won the 2022 election (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9813#333463, the economic problems currently hitting the credibility of Albanese and Chalmers weren't caused by them - although they've hardly helped.

But the new tax policy is indicative of two things...

1. They always opposed the stage 3 cuts even while promising to maintain them. But as soon as a chance came to reverse that promise they grabbed it meaning that ideology trumps policy for these people.

2. They are panicking. The economy is not good and there's no good reason to think things will improve in 2024. All the things they could do to help are impossible for them to ideologically countenance and will be ignored. So as with these tax cuts, their solution is and will be to throw money are the electorate and hope like hell that they get applauded for it. The longer term effect on the economy will be dire but re-election in 2025 is their only concern.

I never expected better from Albanese, but Chalmers is a massive disappointment.

No "applauding" at the tennis. Liaranese got a good old booing. Some spotty cub reporter described it as a tradition. It is not.

In my profession we didn't have unions because we didn't need them.
Foxy,
I’m not convinced, the Public Service Union would not have let librarians roam Govt facilities without getting their cut & support Labor.

Mhaze,

Inflation and high interest rates started when Labor won the election. The solution to inflation is well known, the government needs to slow spending. This is something Labor is incapable of and as a result, inflation and interest rates grew like a cancer.

How many lies does Labor need to tell before voters start noticing?

"The most dispiriting development in my 10 years in politics has been the increasing loss of trust in the political process and politicians. That’s why a lie repeated over 100 times by the Prime Minister and Treasurer – that they were sticking by the legislated stage three tax cuts – is of profound significance to every Australian.

Labor’s decision to drop the stage three tax cuts is the most egregious betrayal of trust I have seen in politics. This is from a Prime Minister who promised “My word is my bond”. Some bond. Now we know his word means nothing. Australians now know any promise from this Prime Minister is worth nothing.

The tax cuts were a centrepiece of the last two elections, one where the Coalition won supporting them, and the second where both sides of politics said they supported the legislation (although that was clearly a lie from Labor). Moreover, the Prime Minister and Treasurer voted for the cuts in parliament."

Liberal Party Hack,

Inflation and high interest rates started after the Noalition created a trillion dollars of debt.

"drop the stage three tax cuts" lie, the stage three tax cuts are still in place, they have been tweaked to give a better social and economic outcome. In fact the cost of these tax cuts goes up from $106 billion to $107 billion.

Lets hope Dud Dutton goes to the nest election promising to increase taxes for 95% of taxpayers. That should see him back in the coppers rolling cars, while doing the stations Macca's run on a Friday night! Failed copper, become a failed politician.

Dear ShadowMinister,

«Australians now know any promise from this Prime Minister is worth nothing.»

ANY Prime Minister.

Always knew.

"Inflation and high interest rates started when Labor won the election."

SM, that's simply untrue. Both were rising before the election. Both were caused by decisions of the Liberal government, fully supported by the ALP opposition. This is all down to the Uni-party policies, particularly the bipartisan lockdown policies.

And neither party has any idea how to solve it....or rather they both know how to solve it but both know that the solutions are so politically untenable that neither will propose them. Instead they'll both fiddle at the edges with inane policies and pretend this constitutes genuine disagreement.

"Inflation and high interest rates started after the Noalition created a trillion dollars of debt."

That's completely untrue. The debt never got to Trillion dollars and even if it did, it was a from high base already built by the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd clown show. The debt was built due to the policies surrounding the lockdowns which neither the ALP nor, as I recall, Paul opposed. Indeed the ALP was calling for more lockdowns and higher spending. In fact in places where the ALP held sway (eg the People's Republic of Victoria) spending was indeed greater and the debt per capita is higher than the Federal debt.

The debt was built due to the policies surrounding the lockdowns
mhaze,
Yes and, the inflated salaries as they got out of hand for bureaucrats over the years !

The days are long gone when we could compare the two parties and claim that one was better than the other. The Liberal Party fell over after John Howard; Labor after Bob Hawke. Dutton has shown no sign of being able to resurrect the Liberals. Albanese has sunk Labor, and they have nobody else. Australia is rooted.

While uncertainty can be very unsettling for some,
it may also be evidence of an openness to new ideas,
experiences and relationships. Australians have
always muddled along. But they get it right in the end.

Lets not forget we had the ball and chain and the ignomy
of a convict settlement consciously designed to house
what were considered the dregs of another society. Then
we had the fact of the ease of our attaining self
government and independence, having been denied the pain
of revolution. So it may not be a bad thing for us to not
have a rigid sense of what should and must happen.

It just might make us a more tolerant society in which a
lack of absolute privilege for any point of view acts as
a social lubricant.

Albanese has definitely established his status as a liar in quick succession:

. The voice was a “modest proposal”.
. Power prices would be reduced by $275.
. 800 plus Gazans were given “temporary” visas he knew the courts would/will ensure that they will never leave unless they wish to.
. Now the tax lie.

His pants will undoubtedly be on fire again before we get rid of him.

Yes our Prime Minister is stubborn
And strong willed
And can be a pain in the ass
But he's consultative, inclusive, caring, and kind,
Listens to advice
And has a heart of gold!

We should not underestimate his ability
to find sh-- out

As I've said of Albanese several times, I never really expected better of him, but I held hopes that Chalmers would be of sterner stuff and would keep Albanese in line.

Alas Albanese is worse than I thought and Chalmers is a massive disappointment. The country is not in good hands although there is little to show that things are better on the other side of the parliament.

Most governments in Australia are given a second chance and rarely get kicked out after three years (Whitlam was the exception and to this point, bad as it is, the government isn't on the same scale as Whitlam). So I expect they'll win the next election, especially as they've now shown that they are prepared to sacrifice the nation's long term future to their short-term political advantage.

Batten down the hatches.

Foxy,

Albozo is selectively consultative, listening only to people who tell him what he wants to hear. Hence the "voice" debacle.

Albozo is a raging Trot who cares only for himself and his ego and is rapidly heading for a first-term loss.

Albozo's legacy:

Rent UP,
mortgages UP,
power UP,
groceries UP,
petrol UP,
insurances UP, EVERYTHING UP.

What was it ALBO said to get elected. that’s right, CHEAPER cost of living for all under labor. I’d say those who fell for that deserve EXACTLY what they're getting

For me, shadowminister's posts are a good summary of Albanese.

Albanese is our worst PM ever. He is no damn good. He is rubbish.

The bottom 40$ of taxpayers only get 9% of the tax cuts under Albanese's new stage 3 scheme. The top 40% get 74% of the benefit.

Still the ALP long ago ceased being the party of the lower classes. They are run by and for the benefit of the middle class urban elites and they are the ones getting these cuts.

Albanese is determined to change Australia completely. He has not been put off by the Voice thrashing. He is still pushing for a Big Brother, hard Left, totalitarian government. We will be at the service of the state rather than the state serving us. A Communist China spin off.

Keep thinking of that footage of Albanese all over Xi.

In his latest assault, he has appointed the gruesome Greg Combet to open up our superannuation funds for investment in mad green schemes and other rorts. We will be funding the state more and more as long as this lunatic Albanese is in power.

Albanese is “capturing capitalism to change it from freedom to control”.

The bottom 40$ of taxpayers only get 9% of the tax cuts under Albanese's new stage 3 scheme. The top 40% get 74% of the benefit.
mhaze,
If that is a fact then Labor should now resign !

Where is the politician who has not promised to fight
to the death for lower taxes and who has not proceeded
to vote for the very spending projects that make tax cuts
impossible.

(Barry Goldwater).

Albozo has now become a Liar ability.

Liebor's crookery stopping the correction to bracket creep is costing taxpayers $28bn. Liebor loves ripping off the taxpayers.

Shadow Minister,

Therapy helps.

Liberal Party Hack,

There is NO $28 billion "bracket creep" the only "creeps" are in the NOALITION. Although several of the smarter ones are now supporting LABOR'S stage 3 tax increased tax cuts, and will vote accordingly. There don't want to suffer the electorate "guillotine", like Dud Dutton and his Squeaky girlfriend are in for.

p/s Are you working cash in hand, no tax, in your janitorial position in Aotearoa?

Village idiot,

Albozo and the Liebor party voted for the original stage 3 tax changes to compensate for inflation forcing people into higher tax brackets, and promised about 100 times not to make any changes.

The changes the moron is making will make minimal difference and will still need bracket adjustment after the Moron has left parliament.

Albozo is just another Labor liar.

Shadow Minister,

And what are you?

Village idiot,

How are you and your mate Jono Doig doing?

Foxy,

I always endeavour to tell the truth.

Albozo and Liebor voted for the stage 3 bracket creep adjustments and stated about 100 times before the election that they would not change them. They lied.

Liebor has the ethics of sewer rats.

Shadow Minister,

Your version of the truth does not change the facts.

A great many people think that polysyllables are a sign of
intelligence.

"There is NO $28 billion "bracket creep" ".

Well that's not the Treasury Dept said. Perhaps they should talk to Paul to find out why they are wrong.

mhaze,

That's if you gaze into the crystal ball, and do nothing on income tax for the next 10 years, sounds like 10 years of the last do nothing NOALITION government.

mhaze, I don't know if you drive a car, but I predict your car will stop if you keep driving......that's if you don't fill up with petrol at some time in the future.

p/s I'm very concerned about bracket creep for millionaires. The NOALITION creeps can fix the bracket creep for their creepy mates in 10 years time when they get back into government. What a creepy thought Prime Minister Dud running the show!

Foxy,

I am glad you are getting therapy. Does it help to ignore facts?

"Liebor has the ethics of sewer rats."

When are you going to realise they just take turns screwing us over.
Both sides will drag us into debt, into wars, have stupid failed policies and spend all day trying to get one up on the other mob.

And they let us argue and bicker over stupid things that don't matter so we can pretend we have a say in things and that it's a democracy, but everything that is important to the higher ups has already been decided.

Right now we support America, in their overthrow of Ukraine, their bombing of the Nordstream pipeline, EU paying 400% more for US LNG, some countries and businesses get rich of this conflict.

It's the average joe that has to go fight and die,
Or pay for it in higher energy bills.

The people win nothing, they only lose.

Let me give you another example:
Russian 155mm artillery shells cost around $800
US 155mm artillery shells cost around US$5000 to $6000

Massive price gouging
Moral to the story, if buying US weapons, then it's hardly worth fighting a war anyway, because it would completely bankrupt our nation anyway.

Theres a valid argument that for a nation as big as ours we should have our own nuclear deterrent.

'Don't think about invading us, we'll nuke you'
- Then we could be free from taking sides in any of this global bs.
It's going to end in another big war no doubt.

The US military is hardly going to save anyone.
They've been completely destroyed from within by wokeism and critical race theory, and all their weapons are outdated, troop numbers declining and can't fill recruitment quotas.
Many ships aren't even in service.

All they can do is get Slavs to kill other Slavs
Arabs to kill other Arabs, Indians to kill other Indians, Pakistanis to kill other Pakistanis etc.

America 'Your neighbour is your enemy not your friend, buy guns!'

We need equality. Tax bracketing & negative gearing do not equal equality ! Everyone pay the same rate full stop ! That'd sort out the surplus of very wealthy do-nothings !

Remember when the Albanese government released a whole bunch of criminal asylum seekers into the community but assured us it was all okey-dokey because the worst of them had curfews and ankle monitors.

Well the curfews have been lifted and the monitors removed. The safety of the public runs a distant second in the Albanese government's thinking.

If the very wealth are "do nothings," how did they
become wealthy?

Ever watch "Shark Tank?"

What's more dangerous - releasing criminals into the community
or pre-selecting them for our parliament - and even promoting
them?

how did they become wealthy?
Foxy,
By exploitation & exploiting negative gearing, extortion of renters, via the Peter Principle & silly people watching movies & buying music & watching Sport among many other loopholes to legally exploit others by lying & false promises ! People become super wealthy by inheritance also which in turn comes from extortion & exploitation done by their parents. The list is as long as the number of silly people supporting their exploiters. There are not all that many who make a lot of money through merit & I for one refuse to attribute merit to exploiters.

All in the family:

The 25-year-old son of Kristina Keneally was found guilty of falsifying evidence. Apparently, it's a crime for non-Liebor politicians.

I sometimes have discussions with my housemate over the idea of wealth.

I've always argued that poor people chose to be poor
- By default of their failure to choose things which would have lead to them not being poor.

My housemate argues wealth is inherited and that no-one gets ahead on their own or without benefits from a wealthy family.

I disagree.

Where we can agree is that people from wealthy family's not only benefit from having money, (his argument for inheriting a benefit) but the ability to make smarter choices from being around smarter people.
- like poor people (poor families) are trapped into poor peoples thinking, don't save, and live week to week, don't know how to start a business or the tricks and benefits wealthy people know but poor do not, or know how to invest.
- And thus poor people (poor families) can't offer their kids that kids of knowledge.

It's a question of culture. Of values passed on
by parents. Of the value and importance of education.
Of taking responsibility. Of working hard - not expecting
a free ride.

Many come to this country with barely the clothes on their
backs. Yet by working hard - they're able to achieve a
great deal. There are enough opportunities available.
You have to have the will to pursue them. Persevere and
not give up. Life is what you make it. Dot expect others
to do it for you.

I remember growing up in the Western suburbs of Sydney.
Our neighbours, locals, frequented the pubs. Gambled
on the races. Had their regular bookies, while the
"New Australians," worked several jobs, sent their kids
for higher education or trades, set up small businesses.
contributed to their communities, looked after their old
people and families.
A noticeable difference between the two sets of people.

Dud Dutton takes the cakes as Australia's dumbest politician, claiming he would fight tooth and nail to stop Labor from altering the top heavy NOALITIONS stage 3 tax cuts, even demanding an early election, what a turkey! Where is Dud these days, claiming the NOALITION now supports Labors policy, as does two thirds of taxpayers. Add this to the NOALITIONS "Kill Medicare" policy, and their "Cash Up The Rich Policy" should see the NOALITION in opposition for the next 100 years!

There's only one level playground sustainable Tax - Flat Tax !

The stage 3 tax cuts guaranteed by Liebor were to adjust for bracket creep and Liebor's inflation, cost of living increases and $T debt.

Dutton is far smarter than anyone in the Liebor party or the pinheads in the gangreen party as by agreeing to Albozo's miserly cuts, he can still call Albozo a liar at the next election, and then implement the rest of the cuts that Liebor promised but lied about. The 40% that Liebor screwed over will not forget quickly.

The revised Labor tax cuts are costing $1 billion more than the NOALITIONS cash for the super rich scheme aka "NOALITION Stage 3 tax Cuts". 84% of taxpayers will be better off with these Labor changers, that's the battlers and middle Australia. The poor old Commodore down at the Yacht Club can cry in his champers and caviar, for all the millions of Australians who will benefit care.

"The stage 3 tax cuts guaranteed by Liebor were to adjust for bracket creep and Liebor's inflation, cost of living increases and $T debt." Wow the NOALITION knew all this 5 years ago. Dutton doesn't know what day of the week it is. What a joke!

Dutton didn’t support it; now he supports it. We really need to clear the rubbish out of Canberra. We need people who state their policies, and if those policies are accepted and they win an election, they should stick with the policies. Claims afterwords that they have to break promises because of certain events just show that they didn’t have the foresight necessary to be elected in the first place.

Lack of trust in Albanese showed in the less and a third of the primary vote that he received. It's not at all surprising that he has failed. We have all the evidence we need that our silly system of preferential voting is wrong: it suits only the two major parties, not the electorate, the country or more suitable small parties and independents. The way it is, we are voting for rubbish candidates out of a rubbish selection.

Of course, the coalition knew that there was going to be inflation as even in the best of times it is 2-3% but probably didn't account for Liebors 7% inflation or treachery/incompetence.

The point is that Albozo lied through his teeth yet again. His word is worth absolutely nothing and Liebor's reputation is trashed.

The NOALTION had a policy of suppressing workers wages, keep the bastards poor was the NOALITION mantra for its 10 years in office. The ABC program Nemesis shows how much hatred existed in Canberra during the NOALITION years, not hate for the Labor opposition but hatred for each other. Years of self centred politics Abbott hated Turnbull, Turnbull hated Morrison, Morrison hated himself and everyone else and Dutton hated being a complete Dud! Who would want this bunch of dopes back in office.

VI,

Now you are just straight-out lying. Under Howard workers' wages grew faster than in any equivalent period under Liebor.

Little Johnny Howard hasn't been pissing in the loo at the Lodge for the past 17 years. These old crusty conservatives love living in the past. Next think they'll be telling us how good things were under Alfred Deakin!

Apparently the identity-crazed Albanese government is going to give a tax cut to women only on July 1st.

Given Labor's inability to say what a woman is, I wonder if the lucky "women" will include those biological males now posing as women, and getting away with it.

ttbn, wont be giving you a income tax cut, like a number of wingers and squawkers on this site, you don't pay tax on your aged welfare.

"Apparently the identity-crazed Albanese government is going to give a tax cut to women only on July 1st." Made that up.

Paul1405,
Pensioners pay way more Tax than you ! We don't have negative gearing & salary sacrifice as the likes of you suck on !

VI,

Workers' wages increased more under Howard than under Liebor over the past 5 decades. You were lying again.

The NOALITION has found a way to give battling workers a tax cut. They want to CUT THEIR WAGES so they pay less tax! There's the reprobates from the NOALITION out there opposing IR laws that would see GIG workers paid a minimum survival wage.

Dud Dutton is now saying he'll give a $9 billion tax cut to the Big End Of Town, after he "wins" the next election, but wont say where the money's coming from. I know, higher taxes on battlers and middle Australia, that's where it would come from.

Under Liebor, real wages have fallen by about 5%.

It looks as though Albozo and his 40 gangreens are the ones that have given workers the largest wage cut in history.

‘Slash the acronyms’ is the heading of the Spectator Australia editorial for 10/2/24. The editor gives the Coalition advice on how to regain office, which it lost after ten years of avoiding its “chief responsibility” of increasing the prosperity of the “ individual in Australian” by choosing instead to to ape Labor in “pandering to the collective and the woke zeitgeist.”

Dutton should call Albanese's bluff with a new tax package - the higher end as well as the lower end - and the only way to do that is slash government spending, starting with acronyms.,

If it's an acronym, it's “almost certainly wasting taxpayers money”.

. The NIAA grants would be a good start.
. The EDO - Environmental Defenders Office (that's the one who lied about whale spirits to Tiwi Islanders to stop gas exploration).
. The BOM - Bureau of Meteorology which has failed to predict the weather this summer. There are far cheaper options available now to the BOM.
. The ABC which is costing the taxpayer a $1 billion a year.

They are the obvious ones. There are other acronyms also waiting for the chop.

Albozo's tax lie will cost people earning more than $ 100,000 This includes tradies, nurses and teachers.

So much for being a tax on only the wealthy.

New evidence has emerged that Liebor knew long ago that it intended to break its promise not to change the stage 3 tax relief changes.

As Albozo was making the promises he fully intended to break them. This makes him a deliberate liar and "times changing" had bugger all to do with it.

Albozo and Chalmers deliberately lied to Australians.

Shocking, if the NOALITION is re-elected, Barnaby Joyce who was found dead drunk in the gutter recently could again be acting PM at some stage. This should concern all Australians, these people are not fit to be in charge. If he's an alcoholic then as David Littlproud the National Party leader has told him, get help.

Liebor and the gangreens fess up to lying:

"Jim Chalmers has finally cut the dancing around and been forced to admit that the Albanese government knew about the changes to the stage three tax cuts – and that he as Treasurer was working on changes – well before the Cabinet’s official change of policy on January 25.

Chalmers’ admission – at his first full press conference since the evidence to the senate of Treasury Secretary Steven Kennedy – finally concedes what has been obvious in every pub for months and that is that the denials of Anthony Albanese and the Treasurer over the summer months that the position on tax cuts hadn’t changed was sham and a fiction.

Chalmers, when asked if he was being “tricky”, stood by the too-cute-by-half explanation that the government’s “position” didn’t change until the Cabinet made a formal decision on January 25.

By the way, BJ was not in a gutter. That was already full of gangreens such as Jono Doig.

The NOALITION if re-elected, plans to hike income tax for 85%, those Aussie battlers doing it tough, while at the same time giving big tax cuts to the top end of town. The Commodore down at the yacht club will be please, but not the poor worker with 3 kids battling to pay rent or a mortgage. Anyway the gutless NOALITION rolled over and voted FOR Labor's tax cuts!

Not only does Barney like to bonk his staff, he likes to booze up as well. See where taxpayer money is going, in the gutter!

Pauliar,

Lying again I see

After Liebor delivered the greatest wage cut to workers in Australian history, the coalition is not looking to hike any taxes, unlike Liebor who is going to tax housing, pensions etc. The coalition is looking to reduce taxes.

The Richardson Review was released this week and its a shocker for Constable Clod, dear old Pete Dutton. $422 million channelled into the hands of criminals whilst Dutton was the Minister in charge. At best, total incompetence from Dutton, at worse.... that's anybodies guess. Contractors suspected of drug smuggling and weapons trafficking were handed multi-million dollar contracts due to a lack of due diligence in the administration of Australia’s offshore detention regime by the NOALITION government, at the time good old Dud was calling the shots! AND, this guy thinks he should be the next Prime Minister, wouldn't trust this fool to run a chook raffle.

Pauliar,

It is a shocker for Labor who set the system up.

To quote the report:

"The report highlights that Home Affairs lacked proper “due diligence’’ and placed “less emphasis on the assessment of a tenderer’s ethical conduct and integrity” and that there was no evidence of security or criminal checks before the ALBANESE Government entered into its current contract with Nauru operators – MTC Australia."

How about all the murderers and rapists that Labor freed only to go on and commit further murders and rapes?

(not Jono Doig this time)

Well here is this shonkyminister doctoring an independent report to suit his political bias. Lets post the actual wording.

"The report highlights that Home Affairs lacked proper “due diligence’’ and placed “less emphasis on the assessment of a tenderer’s ethical conduct and integrity” and that there was no evidence of security or criminal checks PRIOR to the Albanese Government entering into its current contract with Nauru operators – MTC Australia."

The word "before" has been substituted for the word "prior", giving the impression that LABOR failed to do checks at the time of renewing the contract of MTC. Unlike Dud Dutton who failed to carry out any kind of due diligence when the NOALITION government entered into contracts with the US identified criminals then operating MTC,from a shack on Kangaroo Island.

Another alleged NOALITION criminal has been charged, this time by the Australian Federal Police. Senior LNP member Vivian Lobo has been charged with criminal activity in 2022. Shameful, add Lobo to the accused member of the LNP in Queensland charged with murder Ryan Bayldon-Lumsden, and we have a pair for the courts to deal with.

Pauliar,

So what you are saying is that Liebor is doing exactly what the coalition was doing.

Remember that Liebor set up the offshore system.

What I am saying is shonkyminister doctors reports to suit his political bias! The Richardson Review was a look at the awarding of contracts during the NOALITIONS time in office. It found under Dud Dutton's watch there was no due diligence carried out into the awarding of contracts worth $422 million to a bunch of Kangaroo Island criminals! Under Labor those guys are not in the game, probably in jail, I don't know where they are.

And it found the same under Liebor.

The gangreens sent Jono Doig to investigate.

Shonky,

Why did you deliberately change the word "PRIOR" to "BEFORE" in you doctored quote? You wanted to infer LABOR was also involved with those US alleged criminals Dud Dutton was so cosy with. You know the ones the NOALITION handed $422 million of taxpayer money to these suspect people without doing the slightest of checks. To make matters worse Duds department forewarned the fool about these guys. Richardson did not investigate the LABOR Party at all.

SM, you really like your little references to paedophilia on this Forum, it must make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Maybe they make another bloke feel just like you as well.

In a shocking outburst a senior member of the NOALITION in Queensland Brock Alexander has made disgusting comments about a murdered school boy and also about his parents. The 13 year old Daniel Morcombe was abducted and sexually assaulted, before being murdered in 2003. In an attempt to clean up the mess the LNP has dis-endorsed Alexander, but his name is still on the ballot paper under the LNP banner. Shameful stuff!

Pauliar,

I am only referring to the worst paedo in recent history who just happened to be a senior green. Why are you so obsessed with him?

As for the changing of "prior" to "before", that was my autocorrect which in this context is simpler for you to understand while meaning the same.

I have suggested in the past that you get an autocorrect for your awful grammar and spelling that makes you look like a retard.

Oh dear!

Dennis Richardson AC, retired public servant and diplomat who served as the Secretary of the Department of Defence, and Secretary of the Department of Foreign Affair, totally unqualified to do an investigation. Mr Richardson produced a detailed report into the conduct of the NOALITION government in awarding $422 million in contracts to some shady mob with their "head office" on kangaroo Island, people who had been identified as criminals by the US. Unfortunately Mr Richardson is some kind of "retard" because with his report he didn't use shonkyminister's "Dud Dutton autocorrect" which can change words like PRIOR to BEFORE, and give a different meaning to what is being said. Next time the government wants an investigation done they should enlist the help of some anonymous Liberal Party hack with an autocrrect, and not a qualified person like Dennis Richardson.

Ever heard of National Party MP James Hayward aged 54, doing two years for sexually molesting a 6 year old girl many times, over a 2 year period. Hayward comes from the same party where its former federal leader was photographed dead drunk and full of drugs in the gutter recently!

Paul,

You seem obsessed with paedophiles, maybe you should join the gangreens and get a master class from Jono Doig the senior green with years of experience.

I've installed the Dud Dutton Autocorrect. I just put your above post through it. Look what it done.

shadowminister,

You seem obsessed with paedophiles, maybe you should join the noalition and get a master class from James Hayward the senior national with years of experience.

Yep, the Dud Dutton Autocorrect works just fine. No one believes that your "autocorrect" on your steam powered Commodore 64 changed the word PRIOR to BEFORE......YOU DID IT YOURSELF, to give a different meaning to what Richardson said. Shameful behaviour, but what can one expect from a Liberal toady, caught out again doctoring something to give it a NOALITION bias.

Pauliar,

Your gangreen autocorrect is faulty and lies, the correct quote was

You seem obsessed with paedophiles, maybe you should join the gangreens and get a master class from Jono Doig the senior green with years of experience.

To quote Twiggy Forest:

"I have to hold the Greens accountable here; the Greens might as well be the party for paedophiles, the party for child sex abusers – you're the party of human rights and you've forgotten the human rights of children, just call yourself the party for paedophiles."

The Newspoll after Liebor's stage 3 treachery shows that Liebor's primary vote has dropped from 36% to 33%.

Albozo is a liability to the Nation and Liebor.