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A Clayton's Immigration Reform

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This seems important, but I'm not sure where to put it.

Leyonhjelm seems to have exposed the whole 'Gender Pay Gap' issue as a scam.
He asked - Did you take into account the issue that men work on average more hours than women?
Answer - No. (Contains video)
http://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1746515707360088486

Hi Foxy,

I'm not saying that immigrants haven't made a valuable contribution to the nation.
But I think the important question is this.

'Does an existing population have a right to decide who they wish to share their country with?'

If not, then what is a country?
Nothing more than a name, or a place on a map - nothing else included?

What happens if you bring people into the country who will never have loyalty and allegiance to our country or way of life?
They come here, they hate the place, but want to change it to something more similar to where they came from or tolerable to their different sensibilities?
What right do they have to say we shouldn't act the way we do, because it doesn't suit them?
Why would you want to bring those people in, what benefit can it have other than division?

What if Muslims take over Bondi and start telling everyone they need to cover up?
What things in our country will be defended no matter the change in demographics?

What is Australia?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 January 2024 1:28:06 PM
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Hi AC,

It's the Australian government that allocates places each year
according to the budget. It establishes a planning level
outlining how many permanent residency visas to grant.

It does this under 2 programs"

1) The Migration Program - for skilled and family visas.
2) The Humanitarian Program.

There are certain strict conditions and requirements that have to
be met before a visa is granted.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 January 2024 1:57:40 PM
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Dear Critic,

«I mean, you are what your history says you are, right?»

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

Total nonsense, besides most people don't even know their own history and even those who do a bit, know only of their present birth.
One's actual history stretches across many lifetimes, usually in completely different countries and ethnic groups each birth.

«And Jews, being persecuted for thousands of years by many different peoples... why?»

Not just Jews. Practically every group was persecuted at one time or another. At times also, Jews were among the persecutors, particularly of other Jews who disagreed with them, early Christians included.

As for the "why", the reasons are too many to list, but I think that one of the main reasons is that Jews introduced Christianity to the world, along with its frigid lifestyle, the fear of sin and denial of fun and erstwhile innocent care-free joy.

«Why would the Ugandan people have gladly given up their land to make room for a Jewish homeland, and been pleased to do so?»

Firstly, the Zionists did not seek to make a Jewish homeland, but a land where they can escape their bitter Jewish fate.

When the early Zionists arrived, they wanted to include the local Arabs in their project, bringing them progress, equality, science, sanitation, literacy, roads, hospitals, schools, etc. They naively believed that the Arabs would happily cooperate, but failed to take into account that their Muslim clerics would fear for the loss of their dominion and instead incite the masses to attack them.

Had the Arabs not attacked the Zionists and killed many, they would all have now been living in harmony, just as the Druze and Circassian people do in Israel along many Bedouin tribes that chose to remain at peace with the Zionists.

Nobody would have had to give up their land unless it was used to attack the Zionists (and later Israel) from, though many freely chose to sell their land to the Zionists for good money.

[continued...]
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 15 January 2024 3:00:25 PM
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[...continued]

There is no reason to believe that peaceful Ugandans would attack peaceful Zionists who only wish to help them: that would be foreign to their culture.

«I'm not necessarily stating the Jews shouldn't have a homeland.»

That introduces a different fresh topic, because the Zionists (=the original ones, not the crazy Messianic American Jews who now plagiarise that title) didn't come to Israel to have a Jewish homeland, they came there to escape their Jewish fate.

Whether "the Jews" have one or not, The Israelis HAVE a homeland!

And they won't give it up.

«If they say in their own words that they are not the same as gentiles»

The Zionists who actually came to Israel (not Jews like Maurice who croaked about it in New-York) ASPIRED to become exactly like gentiles, building and tilling the earth with their own hands.

«there has been a history of animosity wherever they've resided»

False. You are being selective: some liked Jews, some kings and emperors even invited and welcomed them and incorporated them in their government and public service, others not.

«Israel did not consider these people a 'people' at all.»

Early Zionists admired the local Arabs and even tried to dress like them.

«The author of this book was given many literary prizes and was even nominated for one by the Israeli Prime Minister»

President, not PM. Israel's presidency is a ceremonial role: the winner must have been selected by public servants and that was for some Yiddish literature, not for his views in "You Gentiles", written 50 years earlier when that stupid author was only 29.

«Obviously many Jews thought his opinions held merit»

Indeed, I wrote so myself and I despise them.

Most Israelis are not like that.

Yet you seem to share that same sick view - that Jews are somehow different in essence than other humans, thus no Jew can ever "unjew" themselves.

«when one of them says - 'this is what we need to do'»

One little stinking crazy American young blogger who also happened to be a Jew, but ate the same American mushrooms.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 15 January 2024 3:00:28 PM
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I suspect that Steele Redux, Foxy, Yuyutsu are Anglophobic bigots that want to destroy Anglo culture and ethnicity. They don't appear to believe in the concept of live and let live- don't care if Anglo people become stateless- don't care about the future of Anglo people- don't care if Anglo people don't control their own destiny or their own territory- don't care about their right to keep their people together and exclude others.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 January 2024 7:12:49 PM
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Why is their right to destroy our identity greater than our right to protect our identity?
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 January 2024 7:17:58 PM
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