PS, Fester,

Recently, I made a rule for myself. Don't try to "discuss" anything with posters I disagree with or dislike. Fortunately, there are more agreeable, likeable posters with opinions similar to mine than the other sort.

Remember when all western countries had their own distinct culture separate from other western countries?

What happened to that?
Culture and sovereignty destroyed.

This country was ours, now it's been conquered and we're all relegated the status of 'immigrants' or 'guests' in our own country ruled by elites from foreign places.
Democracy gives us two losers that couldn't run a chook raffle.
Certainly do not run this country in it's peoples interests.
- Because they changed what was meant by 'the people'.

I'm not celebrating Australian soverignty destroyed and UN woke culture.

I'm not sure 'multiculturalism' can even be considered an culture in itself, it's more anti-culture, or culture destroyer, for the sake of an imposed global religion.

It may not be a bad thing for us to not have a rigid
sense of what it means to be Australian. It may make
us a more tolerant society in which a lack of absolute
privilege for any point of view acts as a social
lubricant. A lack of just one national identity precludes
Australian identity from adopting too chauvenistic an
attitude in our dealings with people from other countries
and cultures.

While uncertainty can be unsettling for some. It may also be
evidence of an openness to new ideas, experiences, and
relationships. We are a nation of immigrants.
Could our acknowledged success as a nation of immigrants
have something to do with the fact that each new citizen has
a reason to feel that they can make a contribution to the
nation by subtly affecting the way in which it sees itself?

Yesterday, the cleaner who came to do the cleaning of our
home was from Uganda. She is a student studying nursing
and is half way through her course. She's very excited
about this demanding career. A lovely girl so willing to
make a difference to her new country.

ttbn,

No point in fighting people. That just leaves me feeling depressed. I'm glad you find people who agree with you. I hope it gives you a little more optimism for the future. I'm having some interesting and polite discussions with people I hold different opinions to, and it is nice to hear their views. Very courteous both of them.

Fester

Optimism doesn't work any more. Optimism equals naivety. Sorry, but things are going to get a lot worse before they get better, if they get better. You like to 'discuss' things with people. Fine. But can you tell me what you have achieved? How many people have changed their minds due to these discussions? None. I have been part of this forum since it first started. And, the same people are still banging on about the same things, and still with their same opinions. Including me. Have a bit of fun. But nobody who can make any difference listens to anonymous posters on the internet. Don't take social media seriously.

For my part, I am interested in how many people share my opinions. That's what gives me encouragement. Contrary opinions are no use to me.

Hi Foxy,
'We are a nation of immigrants.'
- I'd like to have a discussion about this

'immigrant' is a noun that comes from the verb 'immigrate'
'immigrate' means 'come to live permanently in a foreign country'
- probably comes from the word 'migrate'

You're only an immigrant if you were not born here.
If you are born here, then you're not an immigrant.

That means that technically speaking, only about 25 - 30% of Australians are immigrants, they're a minority.

So the idea that we are a nation of immigrants is actually false.

You were born here weren't you?

Personally I think that many people who have families that have a passed down memory of a foreign homeland identify as immigrants.
Immigrants, and their kids who are second generation migrants, make up over 50% of the Australian population, yet second-generation migrants / immigrants aren't technically immigrants or migrants anyway as they were born here.

I'm about 12th generation Australia, aroundabout...
I tracked my ancestry back to the 1810's in Australia where records become obscure.
I have no idea how my family got here, except that the story was someone stole a sheep back in the UK and got e free trip to a penal colony.

I'm as white as anyone else, but I do have a small amount of indigenous in me.
My grandmother on my fathers side was part aboriginal
I don't 'identify' as indigenous, but what does 'identifying' have to do with it?
It's a genealogical fact, a matter of DNA, I do have indigenous in me.
I do know of some of my indigenous families stories as there is a large book that details it, and there's even a copy in the national library in Canberra.

I don't have any family memory of Scotland in the 1700's.

What should I identify as, and why would I identify as an immigrant?
I'm technically not one (I did not immigrate), I'm 12 generation Australian with some small part indigenous.