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Can Donald Trump still run for US President?
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Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 7:33:42 AM
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Its very true, SR, that the 14th Amendment doesn't require that the state needs to prove that a person perpetrated rebellion or insurrection in order to remove said person's democratic rights. That's taken as a given.
The framers would not have envisaged a society that had become so anti-democratic that it would seek to remove democratic rights based on mere deranged assertion. As I said, Trump hasn't been proven or even charged with insurrection. Why? Because it didn't happen. So why are these fascists of the left (tautology?) seeking to remove him from the ballot. Well, as Hanson explained, they are terrified of him winning a democratic election. My own view is that he won't win the election because it won't be democratic. But with people like SR thinking its OK to uproot democratic norms based on mere assertion, the past century of democratic government is rapidly coming to an end. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 7:43:08 AM
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post-truth mhaze,
Firstly did you really write this without blushing? "Of course a more honest approach would be to acknowledge the error and move on" You refused to acknowledge your error regarding Biden's daughter instead you doubled down, and now you have the temerity to write something like that? Deeply hypocritical. Next you claim Trump hasn't been proven or even charged with insurrection. Why? Because it didn't happen." It has been proven in a court of law. "The district court found that Trump had engaged in insurrection on January 6, 2021, but concluded that the Fourteenth Amendment did not apply to the presidency." On appeal the Supreme Court determined the 14th Amendment did apply to the presidency but also found that the district court "did not err in finding that Trump had engaged in insurrection". http://law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/2023/23sa300.html That is two separate courts which determined on the evidence before them that Trump engaged in insurrection. Please do better research, this is getting embarrassing. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 9:15:03 AM
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mhaze,
People walk away from your posts on this forum simply because your level of ignorance blocks any wish to continue to engage with you. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 9:33:14 AM
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"It has been proven in a court of law. "
You have a strange idea of proof. This wasn't a trial. There were no witnesses. There was no chance for the accused to rebut evidence. This was more like a Soviet style show trial....oh wait, now I know why you approve of it. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 9:46:43 AM
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nhaze,
You really are an embarrassment. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 10:07:51 AM
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You can always tell when Foxy suddenly realises she's been shown to be wrong. She declares she doesn't want to talk about it any more. Of course a more honest approach would be to acknowledge the error and move on, but....