Boazy, this one's for you:

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Boaz David how do I say this? my time in the camp of Christians was like so very many ,in a time of need.
I knew I only had to take the God pill and all would be well.
But inside I also knew it was only a pill.
A true God , that is every one of them , is claimed to be the creator of every thing.
Even here in the last few posts we without concern see some devalued.
And we see those willing to take the pill saved but those unwilling lost?
God divides man, tell me it is not true.

You are addressing Boazy but it is a public forum so I'll leave questions to him but comment anyway.

"I knew I only had to take the God pill and all would be well.
But inside I also knew it was only a pill."

In other words you took the pill to help you feel good but didn't swallow the pill so to speak?

"And we see those willing to take the pill saved but those unwilling lost?"

Interesting symbolism. Some people have interpreted Matrix as having religious symbolism. You don't think that we should swallow the red pill because you actually took it in your mouth but couldn't bring yourself to swallow it and you are convinced it will create problems for us (divisions) without providing a real benefit. I'm not ready to integrate Matrix into my theological perception just yet but I did enjoy the movie and I can empathise with the framework of reference. So have you swallowed the blue pill or haven't you got that far being totally preoccupied with not swallowing the red pill?

Too right Belly; big, bad BO managed to put down the other God bothering religions and the 'spirit' religions with glib comments in his last post. His post answered your question by its arrogance and contempt shown for others. Such Absolutism is a pity and shows an absence of gnosis. Sorry David, but you'll create far more atheists than religionists with your style of debate.

mjpb come in at any time, in real life I think you and I could get along well.
I however can not except the repeated chants of some Christians as proof God, any of them exists.
You should understand I was born in a Christian house, mum was adamant only of three things, hard work, honesty and God.
My born again 2 years?
Well death in the family does it.
Time and an understanding of fraud and theft made my inquiring mind think again.
I would have many questions of God if I believed.
But I feel man must ask him/her self why we can not bring a better world to so many who suffer.

“mjpb come in at any time, in real life I think you and I could get along well.”

Thank you Belly.

”I however can not except the repeated chants of some Christians as proof God, any of them exists.”

What about the information of Abraham and the prophets? Would you be able to accept that?

”You should understand I was born in a Christian house, mum was adamant only of three things ... and God.”
My born again 2 years?
Well death in the family does it.”

I can imagine how people might feel like that. If we lose someone we love it isn’t a nice thought that they are just evolved apes who have spent a couple of decades for no reason and gone to nothingness. You said 2 years as a born again. Does that mean that the Christian household was some other brand?

”Time and an understanding of fraud and theft made my inquiring mind think again.
I would have many questions of God if I believed.
But I feel man must ask him/her self why we can not bring a better world to so many who suffer.”

Can’t or won’t?

“I once was saved, born again Christian my life was saved, not however for long.
In my once Gods name a group in my new found Church, ... prayed for three days that God would heal a child's broken arm, before taking him to a doctor.”

It sounds grossly irresponsible to deny the child medical care doesn’t it? That must have been a very unpleasant experience. I have always believed that a pronounced degree of skepticism can protect people from getting into that type of situation (or atheism if you’ll excuse the liberty). The mother of a friend was absolutely convinced that a crying statue of Mary was a divine sign or something and lost faith when it was revealed a hoax. A more robust view of the world and she might not have been as vulnerable. Excuse the question but did the child’s arm heal? I don’t mean during the 3 days.