You're right about the duplication problem, and the storage problem. So if you want reliable electricity without nuclear that is lower emissions than coal you end up essentially with a gas grid with a massive parasitic layer of renewable energy over the top that can't live without the gas, although the gas could live without the renewables.

If you look at South Australia that appears to be what has happened with somewhere around a 25% gas to 75% the rest mix on average, but often much higher amounts of gas. http://aemo.com.au/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem.

It looks like Thunder Said Energy has come to the same conclusion. They are a renewables friendly, but quite rigorous, energy consultancy. http://thundersaidenergy.com/2023/11/16/renewable-heavy-grids-dividing-the-pie/?mc_cid=0e14fb129c&mc_eid=7fb9c710c2.

Problem for us is that our premiers don't get the science or the engineering, and have ruled gas out of our Capacity Investment Scheme. We face a bleak future if Labor wins the next election, unless it tosses people like Chris Bowen.

Indeed Graham, Sth Aus could not continue without the link to Victoria.
The government needs to cut the link to the Greens and the other
"independents" of that Teal colour.
It is a real mess and even if Labour gets turfed out at the next
election the damage has been done.
We probably need to start reading those US Prepper sites.
I think the result of this Dubai shindig will be a gallop to nuclear.
Guess who will be on the end of the queue ?

Hi Bazz,

There are two supply problems with renewable energy. The first is the chaotic power output which requires batteries and dispatchable generation on standby so that the supply grid can work. The second problem is the longer time frame variability (day to day and seasonal), which means that if you want to make renewable energy dispatchable you need to generate two to three times the energy required by some estimates. The renewable spivs will say that the excess power can be put to good use (e.g. hydrogen generation), but as with all the dispatchable generation on standby, piecemeal usage of infrastructure is more expensive. Renewable energy is a destructive con job.

Albozo's $275 p.a. cost savings on electricity will be remembered next to Juliar's "There will never be a carbon tax under a government I lead"

shonkyminister, what do you say,

Unlike the Noalition which gave their mates billions, Gerry Harvey $12 million, QANTAS $600 million, the Big End of Town billions, the Frogs $5 billion, save them Frogs! Gave the taxpayer a trillion dollars of debt, with no promises of repaying anytime within the next 50 years! They gave us, 'Robodebt, Sports Rorts, Car Park Rorts, Land Rorts, rorts upon rorts!

Village idiot,

And the Greens just gave us 2 convicted paedophiles, one accused pedo, one racist, homophobic and violent councillor and a bully in a pear tree.