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Electricity Overload

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Shadow Minister,

You know that you are simply toeing the party line.
This has been pointed out to you many times.
And being selective in what you choose to believe
and ignoring facts - is part of you and your party's
problem. It is time for a total overhaul for you guys.
What was done by you with the Voice was truly a missed
opportunity - and quite shameful.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 11:18:16 AM
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No one talks about the real problem with wind/solar.
It is the multiplication factor
To make it work the maximum demand expected has to be duplicated with
extra generation a number of times to compensate for still nights in one or two or three or-- areas.
The argument that gets put is between 5 and 12 times.
It could be a still night over the whole of Australia, not very
common I am sure, but the figure then would be infinity times duplication.
It is this that makes the so called renewables extremely expensive.
BTW Renewables really means "Must be renewed every 20 years !".
Posted by Bezza, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:13:34 PM
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Sorry Foxy, but I have to say your last post is the most Pot, Kettle, Black effort I've seen on the forum.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 30 November 2023 1:16:46 AM
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Bazz,

No one mentions duplication because they are struggling with the renewable energy problem of chaotic supply. I suspect that renewable energy will be more expensive than nuclear after dealing with the problems before duplication and storage are consideration, so expect a lot more catastrophist lobbying from the renewable energy spivs.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 30 November 2023 7:10:50 AM
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Solar and wind power can’t power EV’s. In Germany the network regulator is working on ways to limit electricity to hungry EV’s and heat pumps so they don’t crash the grid.

Germany’s residential grid operators will be empowered to restrict the flow of power to heat pumps and electric vehicle (EV) chargers from 2024 in order to preserve the stability of the grid, which is suffering from chronic underinvestment.

To paraphrase the WEF, "You will own nothing and feel grateful to get any electricity at all".
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 30 November 2023 7:29:32 AM
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Fester, it is the chaotic unreliability that generates the need for
duplication. As Europe demonstrated a year and a bit back there is
such a thing as a Wind Drought.
Australia being so big can spread wind generation over the whole
country and so improve our chances, but as we are already seeing
the transmission requirements are monumental and the costs likewise.
Batteries, ha ha ha, big money printers needed.
Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 30 November 2023 7:30:57 AM
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