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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Ah yeah, it's starting to do the rounds now, what I stated a while back
That the number of civilian deaths are NOT overestimated by a 'lying and untrustworthy' Gazan health authority.

I even saw people discussing it on the TV yesterday.

That they are drastically underestimated.
I told you they were only counting the dead who were recovered.
There's probably just as many more rotting under the rubble.
The whole place must smell like death.

I saw footage of a dozen 14 story buildings leveled in 10 seconds by an equal number of missiles during the first few days.

After the first week or so Israel had reportedly dropped 6000+ bombs but there was under 5000 dead, it just didn't add up from the footage of the explosions I saw.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 12 November 2023 10:09:07 PM
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Oh looky here

Yellen Warns China To Obey As US Debt Auction GOES BAD
http://youtu.be/r5TDC9EOaoE

"Yellen met with China's He, telling him to obey US sanctions on Russia. However, at the same time, demand for US treasuries is starting to collapse with the 30-year auction ending in disaster. We are seeing the US tighten sanctions because excessive borrowing in the debt markets is starting to backfire big time."

Arrogance. US urges China to obey US' sanctions against Russia without having any jurisdiction.
http://youtu.be/wKknKrWXWe4

Oh and btw there are several nations who have already referred Israel for war crimes, keep killing the innocent Palestinian women and kids and more countries will follow.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 12 November 2023 10:18:07 PM
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What purpose does Hamas serve aside from subjugating Gazans, destroying Israel, and giving power and wealth to its leaders? Foxy calls for Israel to negotiate with Hamas, but that would imply that Israel is at fault. That is a bit like asking Norwegians to share the blame for being murdered by Breivik or the Muslims in Christchurch to share the blame for being murdered by Tarrant. Israel's crime in the eyes of Hamas is being a Jewish state. What is there exactly to negotiate?
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 12 November 2023 10:19:34 PM
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Dear Critic,

«Which is it exactly? - are they trying to rescue the hostages, or just blowing up the tunnels with everyone in them?»

So you are trying to dig for Israel's top secrets... they are not going to tell you!
But Israel did hint that most hostages were taken to Southern Gaza.

«Netanyahu can go ahead and keep murdering innocent women, kids, elderly.»

Innocent people were killed in Gaza, but none of them was murdered - murder requires an intention.

Second, Netanyahu is no longer in charge.
It is now defence minister, Yoav Gallant and opposition leader Benny Gantz who are in charge. Netanyahu only remains as a figurehead until the day after the war when he will formally resign, when new elections will also take place.

Regardless of Netanyahu's former policies, the people of Israel, including even its Arab/Muslim citizens, are presently united about the necessity to eliminate Hamas, whatever the costs.

«Israel has already done so much damage to it's reputation it will be a full generation before they get back to where they were.
They're only making things worse for themselves.»

Nothing changed for Israel and nothing could go worse than how it is and how it always been. Whether others love it or hate it, Israel has to do whatever it is doing - Don't tell me that you loved Israel before and only changed your mind recently...

«I oppose the killing of innocents, it's wrong, but beyond that there's not much I can do is there?»

Indeed, there is nothing you can do, there is nothing I can do and there is nothing else Israel can do.

«as long as we don't end up with Israel going for the Samson option and starting WWIII.»

That is not up to Israel - it could happen, but that is up to Iran.

«That the number of civilian deaths are NOT overestimated by a 'lying and untrustworthy' Gazan health authority.»

Israel estimated a week ago that the number of Gazans killed is 20,000 - mostly Hamas fighters. Now a week later, that number must be even bigger.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:27:45 AM
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Dear Critic,

A single Hamas commander held 1,000 "Palestinian" civilians hostage in a Gazan hospital. He must have stood there with a machine gun, shooting anyone who tried to escape. Then Israel killed him and the 1,000 finally escaped - but till then, how many of them had to unnecessarily die?

Israel just destroyed a Hamas base located in a civilian house.
Among the personal belongings of a dead Hamas fighter, that were found in a child's bedroom along with an explosives laboratory, was Hitler's book Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, with some passages marked and underlines by its owner.

Israel has no choice but doing exactly what it does - or perish.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:38:50 AM
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Hundreds of 1000s of Arabs have been killed by the Russians and Assad and it continues. Where are the demonstrations?
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 13 November 2023 2:15:39 AM
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