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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 12 November 2023 12:44:52 PM
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From a letter I received from Jerusalem.
"Genocidal Hamas jihadists abducted more than 240 hostages. Israeli soldiers have now found the remains of women and babies taken by Hamas and murdered in the most barbarically evil ways imaginable. EVIL is the only way to describe it. Yet Hamas' barbarity is being celebrated across the globe. Congresswoman Tlaib has even joined Hamas in calling for Israel and the Jewish people to be wiped off the map "from the river to the sea." As Israel fights militarily to defend its people, we are aggressively expanding our efforts to defend Israel – representing hostages' families and launching a multipronged initiative to help get these hostages home" Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 12 November 2023 1:06:39 PM
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Shadow Minister,
This situation can't continue. Both Israel and Palestine needs to find another way to stop the violence. To ensure humanitarian access. To return the hostages and to resume the negotiations on a two state solution. Netanyahu is a major barrier standing in the way of Israel changing its policies towards the Palestinians. Policies that brought everyone to this current disaster. Was Netanyahu to leave that barrier would be removed. While the removal of that barrier might not automatically make life better for Israelis and Palestinians it would certainly create conditions under which more positive developments could become more likely - under a more reasonable government. Especially with pressure from the international community. Hamas would need to halt their rocket attacks on Israel and release the hostages immediately and unconditionally. This is one glimmer of hope amid the nightmare in which the two sides are currently trapped. Netanyahu has to go. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 12 November 2023 1:12:41 PM
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Dear Foxy,
«Netanyahu has to go.» Not to worry - he will. He is now a certain goner, even members of his own Likud party say so. And while he is already in the shadows and no longer at the helm, he will formally resign only the day after the war, just because his resignation now would boost the enemy's morale. Meanwhile, have you heard anything about our friend, David F.? It is three weeks that he has not written in this forum, he has never been away that long before. Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 12 November 2023 6:43:02 PM
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SM: "It is methodically finding and destroying the tunnels and destroying them with Hamas inside them."
Josephus: "As Israel fights militarily to defend its people, we are aggressively expanding our efforts to defend Israel – representing hostages' families and launching a multipronged initiative to help get these hostages home" Which is it exactly? - are they trying to rescue the hostages, or just blowing up the tunnels with everyone in them? Netanyahu can go ahead and keep murdering innocent women, kids, elderly. Israel has already done so much damage to it's reputation it will be a full generation before they get back to where they were. They're only making things worse for themselves. I'd be willing to bet that attacks on regular innocent Jewish people are greatly increased already. Think about it, parents whose kids were killed, they will support Hamas more than ever now. And just wait until the orphaned kids grow up, and they come looking for payback. Israel can keep murdering the innocent, but it's their own who will pay a huge price for it, and when it all unravels I'll just think to myself that 'You were warned, and you brought this on themselves'. Innocent Israelis will be looking over their shoulders everywhere they go, anticipating being attacked and even more Jews (not from Israel) will oppose its actions. Israel can keep murdering them but mark my words, there will be a price to pay. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I oppose the killing of innocents, it's wrong, but beyond that there's not much I can do is there? Israel has well and truly made its bed, now it will have to lay in it. Doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me, as long as we don't end up with Israel going for the Samson option and starting WWIII. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 12 November 2023 9:56:06 PM
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America keeps digging it's own hole deeper and that suits me fine.
They are treading water struggling to maintain the moral high ground. Saw they had another ratings downgrade a few days back. Credit agency Moody’s cuts outlook on US government to negative. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/10/moodys-us-government-credit-rating-negative The American empire will continue to deteriorate, slowly at first, then quickly. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 12 November 2023 9:57:28 PM
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Yes. The got Bin Laden. They can get the Hamas leaders no matter where they skulk. Drones these days are marvellous for picking off spot targets with little or no collateral damage, and no risk to the executioner at all.