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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Special Delivery, I see you have no sense of moral / social values of free States and Rogue States. They are all the same too you.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 23 November 2023 3:50:45 PM
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Hi ttbn,
>>Your comment: “For all the people who use the words 'Anti-Semite' and 'Jew hater'.
I wish it would be their friends, families, parents, children being bombed”, is the most outrageous post ever to get past the moderator.

Someone calls you or anyone else an anti-Semite or a Jew-hater, and you want their friends, parents and children bombed.<<

That wasn't exactly what I meant to convey.
What I meant to convey was more this:
'You wouldn't be turning a blind eye to all this reckless killing of women and kids if they were your family';
- If that clarifies it better for you.

And I already told you all.
I'm happy to be labelled ANY name you like if that's what it means to stand against this killing of innocents.

If standing against the killing of innocents means I'm 'Anti-Semitic' 'Jew hater', then sure whatever you say, I'm happy to be called those names and any others you want to call me as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 November 2023 4:23:18 PM
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Hi mhaze,

"But this is war and Hamas must be eliminated."

This in itself has to be the most dumbest, stupidest leap of logic I've actually ever heard.

You are not eliminating Hamas.
Every bomb and missile dropped and every mother and child killed.
- IS A RECRUITING DRIVE FOR HAMAS.

This is the very essence of the Hydra.
Cut off one head and 2 grow back.

Israel crossed the rubicon with it's settlement building years ago.
Now it shall reap what it has sowed.

When it goes and kills 20,000 people in a little over a month
(many still under the rubble uncounted)
then don't anyone EVER whinge to me about 'Anti-Semitism'
Israel kicked an 'own goal', plenty of anti-semitism to go around.
And don't blame me, because I didn't do it.

Anyone who says 'Anti-Semite' or 'Jew-hater' only says it to shut down legitimate criticism OF Israel.
By this line of thinking anyone who uses those words above during the current situation not only give tacit support to the killing of innocent women and kids, and not only do they lack any ethics or decency, but they wish to stop other peoples criticism of the MURDERS THEY SUPPORT.

I told you all years ago 'ENDS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS IS A TERRORIST MENTALITY'

Well, the ends DO NOT justify the means.
All they're doing is killing innocent people and with it recruiting more Hamas, not eliminating them.
(And they'll also contribute to getting their own IDF killed when they must now fight through streets of rubble)

I'm motivated here by defending the innocent, not killing the guilty.
If I really WAS Anti-Semitic, I wouldn't be defending the innocent, I'd be calling for Israel to kill more of them, because with every single one Israel kills, it digs it's own grave.

The entire Muslim world is peed off now, so anything achieved is certainly not in Israels interests long term.
Israel is just making a bad thing worse for itself.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 November 2023 5:08:46 PM
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Hey Charter Boat
- The Russians are storming trenches in Andreevka full Of Ukrainian female soldiers.
http://youtu.be/7Y09279zEQk&t=611
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 November 2023 10:20:44 PM
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AC,

I mentioned this illogical position to Foxy a while back and now we see it from you. This notion that the Gazans aren't really supportive of Hamas and are therefore innocent victims of the war while simultaneously believing that so many Gazans support Hamas that they are incapable of being eliminated.

Either the Gazans support Hamas and are therefore not innocent bystanders or they are as anxious to be rid of Hamas as the Israelis are. Believing both to be simultaneously true is simply illogical.

My own view based on trying to interpret necessarily questionable surveys is that a much larger position of the Gazans support Hamas than the Palestinian cheer-squad would like to admit, but that a plurality of Gazans look forward to the day they are relieved of the yoke of Hamas rule.

It is true that many more lives are being lost than ought to be necessary but this is because Hamas is hiding behind kids and burkas as they bravely (sic) run away from the IDF. Just today we find evidence that Hamas had tunnels below hospitals, schools and mosques - all war crimes and all ultimately ignored by the pro-Hamas cheer-squad.

Once the war is over, I suspect we'll find large numbers of Gazans anxious to back whatever authority is established, be it international , UN, Israeli or Arab in the hope of establishing a better life for themselves.

The world needs Hamas gone and so do the Gazans.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 24 November 2023 5:01:46 AM
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Opinions on Israel and the Hamas terrorists are riddled with dysrationalia.

Dysrationalia is defined as the inability to think and behave rationally despite adequate intelligence.

It manifests in both the inexperienced, uninformed young and the older cohort of the antisemitic.

Dysrationalia is discussed in 'Why Smart People Can Be So Stupid', Robert Sternberg, 2002.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 November 2023 7:10:04 AM
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