Hi Yuyutsu,

In response;

When I refer to rights, I'm referring to the inalienable rights of man, rights that are somewhat abstract, freedom, liberty, happiness, peace, contentment, rights that cannot be taken away or imposed. Rights that preexist from birth, that every human being on the planet has, separate from any rights that might be bestowed by others (government for example) eg the right to an universal education, the right to universal heath care, etc. I believe in those rights as being highly desirable as well, but they are not inalienable rights as such.

"I (Yuyutsu) believe Israel to now be acting in self-defence" I don't agree, Israel has the overwhelming fire power and is now using that power to extract collective punishment on the Palestinian people. The rest is simply anecdotal justification. The means justifies the ends, and sh!t happens scenario, is not justification for killing innocent women and children.

SR,

That's it? I said it was a mother/child and it could have been a father/child. Oh well, that makes it all good.

I pointed out the forensic scientists talked of beheaded babies. Why am I not surprised you decided to ignore that?

As to the Douglas Murray clip, it wasn't just a Piers Morgan interview. But that part was the most consequential. Murray had seen the raw footage of the massacre and was talking about that information and in particular how joyful the Hamas barbarians were at murdering and raping the young girls. Murray isn't the only journalist who got access to that footage. If you cared to look (well not you but someone interested in the truth) you'd find other correspondents making similar, but less articulate, observations.

Hamas needs to be eradicated once and for all, not just for the good of Israelis but also for the good of those living in Gaza

Yuyutsu,

There is no military solution to this conflict. While
everyone understands this basic fact, the insistence
to keep ignoring the root of the problem - the
occupation - can only keep spelling disaster.

I see Foxy believe in the eradication of Israel and its members dispersed as the answer. That is Hamas agenda. "The root of the problem - the occupation - can only keep spelling disaster". She does not understand the Islamic mind over land for Allah. They want to dominate the World, which is their religious charter.

" It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists
do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to
Jews." (Albert Einstein).

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only
friend in the Middle East - I can't help but think
that before Israel we had no enemies in the Middle
East." (John Sheehan. S.J. - Jesuit Priest)."

" I am Muslim
ISIS kills me in Syria and Iraq
Jews kill me in Palestine
Hindus kill me in Kashmir
Buddhists kill me in Burma
Christians kill me in Afghan and Africa
And still I am the "terrorist."

" One Holocaust
Does not deserve another." ( Miriam Margolyes.)

Josephus,

Your opinion is not my reality.

"Row, row, row your boat
Gently off a cliff."