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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Yeah I'm calling bs on it.
5 weeks is long enough for some kind of affirmation that this was real.
40 so called 'beheaded babies'
Every baby potentially has 4 grandparents.
That's 160 potential grandparents;
And not 1 grandparent has put up a social media post saying:

'In loving memory of my beautiful granddaughter, whom I loved more than life itself,
You never got to grow up and have the life you were meant to have and a family of your own.
A tragic loss, forever missed.'

- Not that I know of anyway.

I may be wrong, and I'll admit it if proven so.
But I think the story of 40 babies beheaded just has to be a lie.
It doesn't fit with the way the hostages say they were treated.
And the lack of evidence for it, is somewhat telling.

That said, I think there was 1 baby killed and it apparently was headless
- Douglas MacGregor spoke of it, but he also said that there was no way of telling how it happened.
It may have been from crossfire, sniper fire, tank round blast, apache gunship, who knows.
Apparently the IDF soldier who originally made the claims was a Palestinian hater.

Also, thanks for the kind words Steelie.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 8:09:55 PM
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Hi Foxy,
>>We're told that a city-wide walk-out at 1.30pm on
November 23rd will take place in Melbourne when
students from a number of inner-city schools are
participating in a "Strike for Palestine."<<

Yes I disagree with this.
Kids should be at school learning.
They shouldn't get to decide that they wish to go protest instead;
And school principals should not be using their students for political purposes.
The answer's 'No'.
End of Story.

If they wish to go with their parents to a protest that's up to the parents
That said I'm not sure these types of protests between Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian is any place for young people to be.
Too much potential to be caught in a clash if someone throw a rock or a bottle or who knows what.
And definitely not kids younger than teenagers.
If they are 16 or 17 and seniors in high school, then maybe.
But still not a good place for young people to be on such a heated issue.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 8:26:38 PM
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Israel doesn't have the right to wage war under international laws: UN
http://tinyurl.com/5xuuremh

Israel doesn't have the right to wage war under international laws, Ms Albanese says.

She says the right of self defence can be invoked when a state is threatened by another state, which Ms Albanese claims is not what happened during the October 7 terrorist attack by Hamas.

"It has been threatened by an armed group, qualify the way you want, but it is an armed group within the Occupied Territory,' she says, when asked what action Israel had the right to take.

"Israel cannot claim the right of self-defence against a threat that emanates from the territory it occupies."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 10:09:54 PM
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Dear Critic,

«Israel doesn't have the right to wage war under international laws: UN»

Yet another reason to close down that useless and wasteful body.

When bullied and punched by an older kid in the schoolyard, I suppose you just sat down quietly until you could call a teacher, because that's what school-law said...

Anyway, Israel did not occupy the Gaza strip - no Israeli was there for the last decade. And anyway, if self-defence against a threat that emanates from the territory one occupies is illegal, then all police must be arrested, including in Australia.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 6:37:01 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
I already stated a week or so back if you recall that I think everyone has an right to defend themselves, but that I didn't think some of the things I was seeing in Gaza equated to self-defence.

- I was just sharing the information by the UN rapporteur.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 7:46:14 AM
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Baldrick,

Most of the pictures of rapes murders etc were posted by the Hamas murderers. The reason you can't find them is because either you are an idiot or you don't want to find them.

As for Israel's right to defend itself, this applies to external or internal terrorists. Stop quoting morons.

Stoollicker,

Thanks for showing that Israel does not automatically classify Males 16-50 as legitimate targets. The % of people linked to the military killed by Hamas was confirmed to be about 25% not the 50% quoted by apologists for Hamas such as yourself.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 8:01:27 AM
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