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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Morning shadowminister,
You seem to be coming unhinged.
What are you spakking out about now?

That I shared a video of a bloke trying to collect spilled water?
Or a woman on an Israeli TV program arguing all the land is theirs?
Or the breakdown of the people in Israel who were killed and their ages?

What were my numbers above in total - 1149
Maybe it came from here:

Israel's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hamas Attacks, Massacres and the Israel-Hamas War
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-19/ty-article-magazine/israels-dead-the-names-of-those-killed-in-hamas-massacres-and-the-israel-hamas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000
'Approximately 1,200 Israelis, civilians and soldiers were killed in their homes, communities and in confronting Hamas terrorists. Here are the officially confirmed names of Israel's dead in the atrocities of October 7 and the subsequent Israel-Hamas war'

"This list of 1165 names will be continuously updated with names that have been cleared for publication. If you have any corrections or comments, please contact us at names@haaretz.co.il"

- Maybe 16 names were added to the list?

Look at the newest comment with 74 likes.

"Where are the babies? Were there any baby victims? I hope there weren't. Was the beheading stories mere hasbara? If there were baby victims will their names be released? If there were not will IDF spokesman tell the truth about it? Would the hate fury and feelings of revenge be tamped down if the story proved false? Are the journalists in Israel lazy? Censored? Afraid to reveal the truth? The beheaded baby story is still believed in Canada by the willfully ignorant. Please reveal the truth!"

- It's now over 5 weeks past the event.
If this actually happened wouldn't this info be released by now?

"Just about everything you share is fabricated Jewish-hating filth. This makes you a filthy jew hater."
- Just about everything you buy into is propaganda.

"You lie about the Russian atrocities and celebrate the children they kill so you have the morals of a sewer rat."
- You're the liar, show me where I've ever stated as such.
You can't because it doesn't exist.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 8:38:19 AM
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Baldrick,

Are you also a holocaust denier? That would equal the horrific lies you are telling now.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 11:59:21 AM
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We're told that a city-wide walk-out at 1.30pm on
November 23rd will take place in Melbourne when
students from a number of inner-city schools are
participating in a "Strike for Palestine."

The schools, according to The Age newspaper - are
Princes Hill, Fitzroy High, Brunswick Secondary, and
Thornbury High.

In my time, this would not have been allowed to happen
during a school day. But today it appears that students
do take action when they feel passionate about an issue -
for example - such as climate change.

I'm not sure what to think about all this. We are supposed
to encourage serious thought about issues in our children
I'm just not sure that in such a controversial political
issue - they should be allowed to take sides.
Wouldn't a class discussion or debate be more appropriate?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 3:46:31 PM
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A protest could soon turn nasty - and what if anything
would the students learn for the protest? Discussion issues
in a classroom would be a better option. Although it would be
less exciting I guess.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 3:51:25 PM
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Shadowfiddler,

You were implying Hamas was untoward in "effectively neutralized Fatah in Gaza". That was the electorate.

From the casualty list from the 2014 Gaza conflict. Note the difference from the UN HCR figures and those of the IDF. Males between 16-50 had to be confirmed as civilians to be counted as such.

UN HRC: 2,251 killed (65% civilians)

Israel MFA: 2,125 killed (36% civilians, 44% combatants, 20% uncategorized males aged 16–50)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War

And now you are directing your bile at Armchair Critic. He posted a list of casualties from an Israeli source and you are including it in your list of "fabricated Jewish-hating filth".

What little regard for anything which nudges at the reality you have built for yourself.

And look where the denigration and name calling has gotten you. You referred to me as anti-Semitic quite a while ago now and refused to retract it. I have been happily applying the blow torch to you ever since.

Thus it will ever be so. Enjoy, I am.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 4:50:17 PM
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Too many think that war is like a football match between two teams playing by mutually agreed rules.

It is totally bizarre that, in time of war, Israel drops leaflets warning civilians to flee before it launches an attack; phones civilians directly to warn them to evacuate buildings before bombs are dropped. That wouldn't happen anywhere else.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 5:34:06 PM
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