Which one in the majority is welcoming, inclusive and
an engaging party. And, which is in the majority anti
just about everything
Foxy,
Going by the way Labor handles the show even without a pandemic is a clear indicator that the Conservatives are the more sober ones at this stage!

Dear Paul,

Talking about standards?

Quite a few political leaders in the past have focused
on divisions. Sometimes over pretty big and fundamental
issues such as immigration and same-sex marriage.

Peter Dutton's stoking division seems to be an end in
itself. And, with the recent defeat of the Voice
Referendum we're seeing a different type of politics for
a whole different kind of Australia.

This is concerning.

Post truth mhaze,

This was pretty dark from you:

"The Australian people had the facts. They probably understood the facts better than you. They also understood that many of the facts were being withheld by the aboriginal industry because they were unpalatable to the Australian people. You and those like you, ignored the lack of facts for reasons that are all too obvious."

You of all people using the word facts multiple times in the one paragraph. You could not bring yourself to acknowledge your 'fact' about the supposed diary of Biden's daughter regarding the timing of her showers was utterly untrue. You have zero credibility where facts are concerned.

Give it a miss.

Paul you are so predictable.

I am not the slightest bit interested in the coalition, in a defunct party, or in One Nation, none of which have any power; they might as well not exist. The important political consideration for me is the appalling Albanese government - that’s the only one that can do anything, and it is doing a very bad job of it. Your nonsense about the Coalition, a party that no longer exists, and One Nation is totally irrelevant. There is only one government at a time. What the others would or wouldn't do means nothing. There is no competition. They might as well not exist with the makeup of the current Parliament. Albanese can do as he pleases, unless he puts a crackpot idea to a referendum.

I have never promoted anyone. I have mentioned options to the duopoly. This is the second time I've had to tell you this; you don't seem to have noticed in your haste to try to shout me down and call me names.

There is no point harping on how bad Dutton is: he is not the Prime Minister, and is unlikely to ever be the Prime Minister, according to you. So, get over him, and enjoy your devotion to Albanese while he's there.

I am not interested in your bulls-t. Amuse yourself with your little chats with Foxy, who loves the attention, and needs support because she is all piss and wind, with her absurd accusations against people with no evidence to support the accusations, and no ability to answer for her mad ramblings.

Relevance again eludes SR.

As to the old issue of Biden's inappropriate showers with his poor daughter, its pretty standard SR there to ignore all the indisputable facts and assert that the whole story is debunked because one aspect can't be absolutely proven.

If you don't want it to be true then find a reason, any reason, to ignore it. Massive amounts of Trump accusations remained disputed but SR believed every one of them. Biden has proven inappropriate showers with kids and SR races to find some reason, any reason, to pretend it didn't happen.

As to relevance (ie the Voice), the facts are that the referendum was doomed because the political elite that SR adheres to thought they could con the public into giving them a blank cheque. They withheld the details of the Voice because they knew they'd never get it through if the details were exposed. People like SR and Foxy fell for that but the Australian public didn't. Elsewhere I noted that I predicted this 14 months ago and pondered why the political elite still thought they could win a 'yes' while withholding the facts. I think it comes down to their disdain for the average voter.

"Peter Dutton's stoking division...."

I'm no Dutton or Liberal fan at the moment but this harping on Dutton being divisive is really pathetic. What people like Foxy are saying is that he should just agree with them and then there'd be no division in the nation.

Just agree with the elite and all divisiveness evaporates. Don't campaign for 'no' because that's divisive. Don't disagree with whatever lame idea emanates from the government because that's divisive. It never occurs to them that disagreeing with Dutton is divisive. But then again nothing much ever occurs to them.

They learned precisely nothing from the referendum. They thought they could propose changes that would be rejected if fully explained and that they'd get it through based on claims of uniting the country. And the country rejected them.

Democracy is about divisiveness. Its the whole point. A contest between two ideas. Those whining about supposed divisiveness don't want open debate,, they want enforced conformity to their opinions.