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Peter Dutton - Political Stirrer.
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Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 October 2023 3:08:14 PM
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Hi Paul,
Peter Dutton must have supporters within the party to have been elected as its leader. I find him rather inappropriate. There are probably lots of people who'd never vote for him. Just as there are people who'd never vote for Albanese. I have voted Liberal quite a few times at both state and federal levels. But that was a while ago. Recently - No. I don't trust the recent choices that we have. But who knows what tomorrow will bring? Younger candidates are coming forward - and hopefully our choices will be better in the future. Younger outlooks. With better policies and outcomes. I would like to see more negotiation and agreement amongst our politicians. And less politics. But that's probably wishful thinking on my part. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 21 October 2023 3:31:55 PM
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Look at the end of the day I think the best outcome that could've happened did happen.
And all the bickering doesn't even matter. We can live and learn. It's actually a win for our country and for our democracy if you can find a way to see things a different way. The 'No' vote won the day and that was a good thing. The alternative was that we might have unelected bureaucrats dictating policy to the elected. - But the 'Yes' vote got significant support too. Certainly enough to show that we need to find better ways to address the issue, and not discard the issue entirely. What's the alternative to a referendum? - That might be where both parties take the peoples choice under advisement, and both sides sit down and actually focus on a great policy that takes all points of view into account. It doesn't need to be a 400 million dollar loss if lessons are learned and it pushes us in the right direction in a more unified and agreeable way. I voted 'No', but I'm also glad that some of you voted 'Yes'. - Because that means that people of this country do have the will to find ways that better the lives of Australia's indigenous people. But it's got to be the right way, something that we can ALL agree upon. If the 'Yes' had've won out it would've been the end of democracy, and we would've had another poorly designed system that created poor results. Now we have the chance to go back to the drawing board and to find something better. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 3:33:02 PM
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You really got to learn to cut and paste and remove the 's' Foxy,
(I know you wont, but it won't stop me from telling you every now and again - smile) Also another hint... test it first in the preview before you post to make sure it's correct. (right click and choose open in a new tab) Anyhow, here's the correct link http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/01/why-is-labors-bill-on-combatting-disinformation-so-controversial Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 3:38:19 PM
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The failure of the Voice cannot be pinned on Peter Dutton, as he only asked twenty questions that were never answered. Apart from his role as opposition was to ask questions.
Foxy just cannot understand people can determine facts from lies and deception. The answers were never going to come from the Yes Campaign otherwise it would be only ten percent Yes. The agenda was never revealed, except for those that read the twenty-six pages. Quote, "I had such high hopes for the Voice Referendum. I was so certain that most Australians would be able to sift the myths from the facts and recognize that what was being asked was to give our First Nations people justice and rights in their own country - to which they were entitled as First Nations people." Lies and Myths. 1. There is no first nation, just warring family tribes. 2. They have equal rights in Australia because they are citizens. 3. They control 41% of Australia tribal lands waterways and beaches. 4.They have equal justice in Australia. Some do not accept they are citizens of Australia. Some do not accept Australian justice. Foxy will not reveal what justice they want. They want their youth who steal cars and smash them up to be sent home not incarcerated as our justice serves. Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 21 October 2023 4:34:49 PM
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Hi Foxy,
My local federal member LNP is a real "Mystery Man" to me, I've never met the fella, or had contact, and I can't point to any great achievements from him since he's been in office for most of the past 20 years, including 10 years as part of the Noalition government, that's as far as I can tell who needs him. Unlike our state Labor member, and our local Labor councillor, two terrific women, who are both extremely approachable, don't need to write them a letter, and helpful without even being asked. Although we do ask a lot of them when in need, their time and efforts are freely given, and they are always obliging, no ask is too much. To give you an example, a good friend Barry, a well known local identity, wanted to resurrect the 'Community Spring Festival' at short notice, with the intention of aiding the charity my wife and I are involved with. The festival had been a long held tradition in our area but had lapsed over time, it had its origins in the 1950's, so I believe. Without the rapid involvement of our two ladies from the Labor Party, and of course Barry's drive and determination, it wouldn't have been the success that it ultimately was, AND... our charity wouldn't have benefited to the tune of $8,000, we were expecting $500 to $1500, we were blown away with $8k, right on Xmas! Maybe if some on here knew what some politicians do, from all political parties, then they might not be the cynical old bastards that they appear to be. I say to the one who tells us he writes lots of letters to MP's, I say can't you get off your arse and make a difference, rather than popping out worthless words on ya E-mail. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 October 2023 4:38:25 PM
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The Noalition's front bench is made up of dimwits and numbskulls, Dutton is simply the icing on the cake!