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Netanyahu Declares War.

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I've always had the dream of visiting Israel.
Of visiting all the historical sites. My younger
brother and his wife did that a few years ago with
a tourist group. Security was paramount and they were
escorted and guided everywhere.

Still they enjoyed their trip but they saw
that there were problems and a big divide
between Israelis and Palestinians. They saw the walls
the barriers, and the treatment in general.

We have friends in Israel. A girlfriend who'd studied
nursing went there to visit decades ago and ended up staying.
She loved it at the time. Unfortunately we've lost touch so
I don't know if she still loves it.

She talked about the rich culture.
She lived in Tel Aviv.


The conflict is tragic - I've read a great deal on the
subject - by various authors - but it's still not the same
as a lived experience.

I don't think that criticizing Israel is antiSemitic.
But I know those that have and do cop a lot of flack.
People like Miriam Margolyes, Antony Lowenstein, to name
just two.

As Miriam Margolyes said:

"It would be much easier not to speak out. My support for
Palestine has brought me great heartache, but I can only speak
the truth. Whenever I raise money for Jewish causes, which I
do frequently, people say to me, "Now Miriam, don't be
controversial." How can I not be controversial?"

"They're asking me to be another Miriam. I can't accept
that something wrong is being done in my name. I am a proud Jew.
I fight antisemitism wherever I see it. I believe people can
change . Truth is not hard to see if you open your eyes."

"I believe that people have to face up to the moral implications
of their actions, and not sit on the fence, and I've made my
choice. I don't sit on the fence. My country right or wrong
doesn't work for me. I'm on the side of humanity. If I see
wrong, I feel I must do my best to fight it. That is who I am."
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 9 October 2023 7:48:40 AM
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Even Donald Trump Jnr retweeted this one I think SM

http://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1710902080309710952

Breaking News Israel: US weapons left behind in Afghanistan used to attack Israel.

A high-ranking Israel Defense Forces (IDF) commander said US weapons left in Afghanistan by the Biden administration were found in the hands of Palestinian groups active in the Gaza Strip.

The chaos that erupted after the #US scramble to evacuate Afghanistan as ordered by #Biden and the significant amount of weapons and equipment left behind there has now been used to attack Israel a close ally of the #USA

#Biden is incapable of leadership and a total embarrassment on the world stage. #IsraelAtWar #HamasTerrorists

http://aamajnews24.com/taliban-702/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 9 October 2023 8:39:34 AM
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EVERYONE WAS SAYING IT

Everyone had been saying since the war in Ukraine began that there was no accountability of the weapons sent to Ukraine, and that much of it was being sold on the black market by corrupt Ukrainian officials, and that only a portion of what is sent actually reaches the front line.

Everyone was saying that US weapons would end up in the hands of terrorists, that there would be blowback.

WELL HERE IT IS.

Don't blame me for what everyone was saying for a year and a half.
All of you choose not to listen to anything I say because you're all blindly proclaiming "Slava Uraini" and we must send more weapons.

- I'm not the one shipping the weapons or attacking people in Israel,
You want someone to blame take a look at yourselves cheering on a war from the most corrupt nation in Europe, and refusing to support the side of peaceful negotiations.

The US exited Afghanistan in what was the most poorly executed withdrawl and sent 113 Billion dollars in military aid to Ukraine.
- And they want to send another 100 billion worth more to maintain a stalemate.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 9 October 2023 8:53:19 AM
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The United States left behind billions worth of weapons
in Afghanistan since falling into the hands of the
Taliban. This was just the start of the weapons global
journey. Militants got access to the weapons left behind.
Some have been seized from militants in India-controlled
Kashmir.

After the Hamas attack the United States is to send
warships and weapons to support Israel. Israel is the
largest cumulative recipient of US assistance since WWII.
Every year Israel received billions in foreign military
financing from the United States.

Perhaps if the Diaspora Jews brought pressure to bear on
not only the Israeli government but on the United States
as well, things may change.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 9 October 2023 9:29:42 AM
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You are either for Israel and its right to exist, or you are not. Yay or Nay. I am pro-Israel, and that's all that I need to say. The predictable shite from the usual mob will not make a bit of difference to anything.

While you are pontificating about something you are completely ignorant of, and safe from, try identifying with the young Israeli woman, who had obviously shat and pissed herself with fear, being pushed into a car, at the point of a gun, by a Palestinian criminal.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 9 October 2023 9:30:46 AM
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What is happening in Israel is tragic for all
concerned. But as long as the world continues
to give a blank cheque to Israel - nothing will
change. Pressure has to be applied otherwise the
conflict will continue indefinitely.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 9 October 2023 9:33:58 AM
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