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How will the Voice reduce infant mortality/

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Armchair,

That's 100 percent true and correct.
And many non indigenous need similar.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:37:38 AM
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The only competent aboriginal Leader in this country is Jacinta Price, who brought a mob from Alice Springs to Canberra to seek help, but was ignored by all members of the government, including Linda Burney. They did not want to listen to their advice, but just brushed them off. This Government is not interested in Advice, which is the reason they failed.
Jacinta is asking for a royal Commission into where the money went in aboriginal affairs.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:47:46 PM
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I have always believed the "Voice" was supported by Islam, and we have evidence of this at Pine Gap this morning where one hundred Islamic extremists met outside the facility to protest the war against Palestine. Australia is being drawn into the conflict by people who cannot live peacefully with their neighbours.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 21 October 2023 7:37:03 AM
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Hi Josephus,
After reading your comment the first thing I though was 'Yeah that's true, I've heard of that 'indigenous and Islam' but the 'Islamic extremists' part I though better check this out'...
At the same time I thought 'better that they are spakking out over there than disrupting our cities'..

Then I looked up and read the news article:
- And from what I'm reading here its actually not so bad.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8394144/pro-palestine-activists-block-entry-to-pine-gap-base/

>>The group, which included members of the Alice Springs Jewish and Indigenous communities, wanted to show solidarity with the Palestinian people, Nic said.
"The Australian government needs to stand up and call on the Israeli government to stop bombing civilians in Gaza," she told AAP after the protest.
"We want the Australian government to make that call and stand up against war crimes and genocide."...

Pine Gap protest organiser Shoshana Rosenberg, an academic based in Melbourne, said one of the Jewish activists read a traditional prayer of mourning.
"This is an event of public grief and mourning, as well as action and movement towards a ceasefire," she said.<<

I haven't seen any footage, but I'd probably see that as a positive sign rather than a negative one"

It may show that younger Jews don't want to continue this cycle of violence and hope for a more peaceful future between Israels and Palestinians, maybe?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 October 2023 9:04:58 AM
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Proud Boy Jose'

Caught out lying again, what's new! After all you were lying about two of your favourite hates, Muslims and Aboriginals. I would thinks all decent Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhist etc, would be disgusted at the atrocities being committed in the Middle East, by both sides, but not you of course, people of your ilk believe Muslims and Aboriginals are sub-human, and get what they deserve.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 October 2023 6:57:29 PM
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I came across the 112 page 'Voice to Parliament' document.
It's here, but I also found another copy of it listed in order of Document 1 to Document 14.
http://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Credlin-Editorial-PDF-2.pdf

On page 17 of 26 - Document 14, it says.

Voice to Parliament
A constitutionally entrenched Voice to Parliament was a strongly supported option across the Dialogues. It was considered as a way by which the right to self-determination could be achieved. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples need to be involved in the design of any model for the Voice. There was a concern that the proposed body would have insufficient power if its constitutional function was ‘advisory’ only, and there was support in many Dialogues for it to be given stronger powers so that it could be a mechanism for providing ‘free, prior and informed consent’. Any Voice to Parliament should be designed so that it could support and promote a treaty-making process. Any body must have authority from, be representative of, and have
legitimacy in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities across Australia. It must represent communities in remote, rural and urban areas, and not be comprised of handpicked leaders. The body must be structured in a way that respects culture. Any body must also
be supported by a sufficient and guaranteed budget, with access to its own independent secretariat, experts and lawyers. It was also suggested that the body could represent Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples internationally. A number of Dialogues considered ways that political representation could be achieved other than through the proposed constitutional Voice. These included through the designation of seats in Parliament for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples (although there was some concern that these politicians would be bound by party politics), the creation of a ‘Black Parliament’ that represents communities across Australia. There was discussion about how these reforms could be connected to a constitutional body. For instance, the body’s representation could be drawn from an Assembly of First Nations, which could be established
through a series of treaties among nations.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 26 October 2023 8:50:30 AM
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