Dear Foxy,

Indigenous Australians have the same rights as other Australians and have twice the sum spent on them as other Australians.

"The principle is that it will be Indigenous people
who would be providing advice that could ultimately
see better policy and therefore improvements in
health and child welfare."

That principle has been tried for the past half century and has been a repeated failure. It is an inherently racist principle as it implies that indigenous Australians best know how to solve their own problems, a principle of "them and us" if you like.

Enshrining indigenous Australians in the Constitution as the first Australians will also establish the "we were here first" principle. This would violate the democratic principle of equality, whereby you are equal regardless of your heritage or time of tenure: Such things rightly should not be of relevance to your citizenship.

Australians should reject dividing the nation and bestowing special rights on the basis of race. Instead, Australians should embrace their equality and solve problems together. A nation enshrining "them and us" and "we were here first" in its constitution is a nation divided.

The Voice is nothing but a high-speed transport system for corruption !

Foxy,

The reason that I think the voice will do diddly squat for Aboriginals is because:

Over 1,000 Aboriginal committees have already been formed to provide advice etc at the local level most are ineffective and some are outright corrupt.

The voice so far is open-ended and without limits and can influence any decision at any level of government. It is a rent-seeking vehicle like none other in Aus history.

Labor should have presented a tested working model rather than demanding a blank cheque with no clear concept of how it will work.

Paul believes we can be shamed because some Neo-Nazi will vote NO. He is however OK with communists Voting YES, as they want to put a wedge in our constitution to allow radical communists to rule without an election. Communists like Marcia Langton, and the nonaboriginal Thomas Mayo, are the darlings of Albanese.

http://ctgreport.niaa.gov.au/child-mortality

In 2018, the Indigenous child mortality rate was 141 per 100,000—twice the rate for non-Indigenous children (67 per 100,000).
Since the 2008 target baseline, the Indigenous child mortality rate has improved slightly, by around 7 per cent. However, the mortality rate for non-Indigenous children has improved at a faster rate and, as a result, the gap has widened." [infant deaths in indigenous not changed]
"Some of the major health risk factors for Indigenous child mortality are improving. There is a need for further research to understand why these improvements have not translated into stronger improvements in Indigenous child mortality rates."
"Over the period 2014 to 2018, the main cause of Indigenous child deaths was perinatal conditions (49 per cent), such as complications of pregnancy and birth. Most Indigenous child deaths (85 per cent) occurred during the first year of life. This was similar for non-Indigenous children.

About 15 per cent of Indigenous child deaths were children aged 1–4 years old, nearly half of which were from external causes (including transport accidents, drowning, other accidents and injuries)
Child mortality is associated with a variety of health and social determinants. Although a complex set of factors are involved, maternal health (such as hypertension, obesity, and diabetes) and risk factors during pregnancy (such as smoking and alcohol use) are key drivers of birth outcomes and deaths among Indigenous children. However, access to quality medical care, public health initiatives and safe living conditions serve as protective factors and can improve the chances of having a healthy baby (

I see the aboriginal journalists are blaming infant deaths and childhood deaths on racism. But ignore the facts at play, has nothing to do with racism, and more to do with lifestyle choices.

http://nit.com.au/06-10-2023/7992/racism-killing-aboriginal-children-youth-commissioner
"Some of those are due to family and domestic violence but some are due to extreme racism."
Here are a couple of examples of teen deaths.

Proud Boy Jose'

There is irrefutable evidence that Neo-Nazi's ('The Warriors for Convict Resistance') are advocating a'NO' vote. Care to name one Communist organisation advocating a 'YES' vote. If you were forced to line up with the 'NO' mob, you would be standing next to a bloke wearing a balaclava giving a Nazi salute and ratting of with hate speak towards Aboriginal people, not a good look, then again YOU might be comfortable with that look! I can't say.